I’ll admit, I’m not a spender, but I DO have a say because I’m waiting for either a DLC worth buying, or a decent amount of patching awesomeness before I commit. You have a great foundation game to work with but at the moment, it’s a sad scene. I don’t want to invest in devs who try to loot their customers at every opportunity. I was really stoked for this game a couple of months ago.
Engy and inty changes were ok at a glance…
I have said before that I want to spend money on this game, but I won’t because I believe the moment I do the Developers will screw the game over to the point I cannot stand playing it any more.
I was enjoying 0.8.0, despite its flaws, but I knew this patch was coming; the patch that I despise.
To their credit, the game play seems fine. I didn’t notice a major drop in Engineer performance; it does less damage, but it’s not such a big drop that the Engineer is an “OMG NEVER FLY THIS SHIP!” type of class. Funnily, I’ve seen a lot less of them - even had two matches where we had no active Engineers!
The camera is now moving to the position of your weapons and not the ship you are controlling. Which I did not like at first, and I still don’t when I fly the fighters. This new camera does have it’s positive with controlling the slow frigate because I can move my guns around and see/shoot the enemy without waiting for the whole whale to make a turn. My suggestion is to keep this camera mode only for frigates and get the old camera mode back for the fighters/recons/interceptors.
2. The looting system does make you more angry then it did before. I rather get a failed extraction [(40k) repair cost anyone] then crap loot that barley pays for the missiles I just used. I did get pissed that there was not conformation about using the real $ for the 30% likelihood of success, when I saw that initially I understood it as I had a chance of getting the item/cash/real $ but it wasn’t until I got the message that I was low on credits till it hit me. I got so mad. (devs any chance I get my credit back, I only used it twice)
Why can’t I use my drones at the start of the mission when I fly the frigate and why did you remove my extra x2 lasers. I know some frigates are overpowered but I’m sure it’s the ones from Jerico with 40k armor plus. If you are going to take a weapon away then pay particular attention to the ship type and quality (yes, I want you to pick and choose). The whole thing with balancing is making things equal but different. You guys know that, and I know that crap is hard but put more thought into it.
May you guys look into the following. Whenever I fly my frigate and am zoomed in (b) I use my targeting on the target within rage but every time I need to point either behind or around the target and not exactly at it to score a hit. I only use lasers with my frigates. I have done this even when the target was stationary and the same thing happens.
Is it me or have the command fighters got really tough?
Engineering frigates now only have 4 cannons (previously 6).
great, now you’re compensating the frigates mobility with reduced guns?
how could this be even balanced? Frigates are big ships, which always need backup, as long as backup is never there, 2 additional canons are supposed to be replacing the backup.
Frigates with four guns is not a problem - despite the xxxx camera I’ve found it can hold its own in a fight. It just can’t kill ships as quickly now, so it’s more reliant on supporting ships (which it should be; it’s meant to back up allies, not solo-kill everything that flies).
Frigates with four guns is not a problem - despite the xxxx camera I’ve found it can hold its own in a fight. It just can’t kill ships as quickly now, so it’s more reliant on supporting ships (which it should be; it’s meant to back up allies, not solo-kill everything that flies).
The problem at least in my opinion is that there is little to no incentive to support other players. You may get a buff assist every now and then but I’ts not worth it. Plus you have a larger target that is slower that has the same amount of fire power as a smaller target that is faster and more maneuverable.
IDK about the rest of you guys with the crashes and loot system and cameras they are sure NOT Listening to us I think we should ALL find a NEW Non broken game to PLAY. I also have a beef with these people. I posted on here a while back on I had 29 days premium then had 1 days left so I submitted a ticket. The response to my ticket was well this is a BETA GAME it’s not OUR fault YOU decided to put money into our GAME we fixed the loot system to ensure you get your Loot yep sure did. Broken Greens and Purples. Never got my time back, Never got any sort of Apology, Never got any type of Compensation or my problem resolved. I was gonna Buy a gold ship no way not now these people will NOT get anymore of my Money nor any of my 30+ Friends money that came here. We all talked about it today and they said "We are Leaving due to the LACK of Customer Service and having to pay to get your loot. 20 of them spent 50.00 now that 1000.00 dollars they spent is no longer helping support your game. Something to be proud of guys. I realize you do not care but I had to state my opinion just incase you look past the MONIES and listen to us the customers.
Ok… Frigates with camera issues… BIG problem… BIG blind spot where people can just sit and fire away on you, and you cant even see them to counter them… This is highly problematic… my t2 damage on my hydra 2, was 1200 a hit on shields on average… its. 400 now (Yes, I tested in on multiple targets, different ships, etc) shouldnt it be 800 with the loss of 2 guns since only 1/3 of the damage has been removed?
Also my t3 ships went from 40k to 48k for a full repair… nice ninja change there, subtle and most people wouldnt notice it.
The new camera is HORRIBLE revert it back to the old one… seriously. even panned out, frigates take up like 1/2 my screen… its intolerable.
under 700 people online when I was on… t3 was always 3 vs 3 to 5 vs 5… instead of like 10 vs 10 like it has been…
Error… the game is currently a lone interceptor w/ 100 speed using boosters against a team of snipers… its only a matter of time
the camera deal is the killer for me, everything else I could tolerate…
OMG HERE a PURPLE ASSAULT Plasma GUN. Just kidding we broke it you didn’t pay for it. OOO you spent 200 gold on a 30% loot chance on another Item. To Bad so Sad that broke to but Thank you for the free REAL money we just do not care.
The great: Less frigates. Flying skill actually matters again, instead of “who has most engineers wins”. When they do show up, it’s less annoying because they’re less survivable. Guard frigates are still annoying.
The good: Outlines of your target. Was necessary with the camera change, but is great to have regardless.
The average: Shop system is pretty annoying to use when you want to equip mods you already have, and good when you want to buy or look for items.
The controversial: looting system can be a good thing, or a bad thing. Buying a better chance for purple loot is a bit annoying, but lottery is a big thing in korean FTP games. I guess it is making inroads here. I don’t mind all that much, some will. On the bright side, steam looting buff is actually meaningful again as well as license’s 2 extra loot chances and we get slightly less terrible prices for loot.
The bad: Contracts are still terrible. At least we have one contract which awards pittance and needs a win that can be spammed. A small positive doesn’t outweigh a huge negative. T4 blues are still “some time after star citizen’s release” for pretty much everyone.
The atrocious: Strongs and nukes are still here. Zero skill, spam nukes and win. New camera is atrocious and causes severe tunnel vision for many, not to mention that inability to see in front of you is harmful to gameplay. On a positive side, less frigates are played because they’re largely unplayable with the camera. Which has a net positive impact even though camera itself is absolutely atrocious.
I am a Beta Tester and have Been an Alpha/Beta Tester a very long time. My reviews have been published and currently still being published on Gamespot.commmorpg.commmobomb.com PC Magazine and Cnet just to name a few. I was all set and ready to compose a new First Impressions of this game to see how the players liked the new patches and what this game has to offer to help drive more people to this game. I logged into the game and Live Streamed what people were saying and flew a couple missions with over 5K+ Viewers and The comments from the Live Stream were not in this games favor. The main comment was about the New loot system the developers had installed. I gave them the Benefit of the Doubt and had a couple green items chose the 10% free option and they both broke. So I decided to Choose the 30% Option on a couple purples that had come up and they still broke. The Comments on the Live Stream were so Negative about the loot system and camera I actually had to stop the Live stream. I am holding off on Live Streaming this game and writing a review to give the Developers a day or two to fix the issues. From what I have seen the ratings on this game today from the 50+ quality review sites your average score is 4.5 out of 10. I truly hope you can bring this together fairly soon. I give this game 3 months more to live then your population will dwindle out. I have seen this many times. This game could be amazing with a huge population draw with a good income for your business, but first you must listen to your customers who are spending the money to support your game. So far my review of your game is a 4.7 out of 10.
Update knows this day of treatment was good in some frigate engineer now is not dealing damage as before because of reduced cannons … Now she’s looked better more expensive than engineer warship … Tell me who had the stupid idea that lot that breaks the time of extraction found this idiocy looks you found a lot super rare and experimental level at the time of extraction puff you lost items that turned lottery now … Was Pecimo Update this other thing was the camera more than she was troubled
I am a Beta Tester and have Been an Alpha/Beta Tester a very long time. My reviews have been published and currently still being published on Gamespot.commmorpg.commmobomb.com PC Magazine and Cnet just to name a few. I was all set and ready to compose a new First Impressions of this game to see how the players liked the new patches and what this game has to offer to help drive more people to this game. I logged into the game and Live Streamed what people were saying and flew a couple missions with over 5K+ Viewers and The comments from the Live Stream were not in this games favor. The main comment was about the New loot system the developers had installed. I gave them the Benefit of the Doubt and had a couple green items chose the 10% free option and they both broke. So I decided to Choose the 30% Option on a couple purples that had come up and they still broke. The Comments on the Live Stream were so Negative about the loot system and camera I actually had to stop the Live stream. I am holding off on Live Streaming this game and writing a review to give the Developers a day or two to fix the issues. From what I have seen the ratings on this game today from the 50+ quality review sites your average score is 4.5 out of 10. I truly hope you can bring this together fairly soon. I give this game 3 months more to live then your population will dwindle out. I have seen this many times. This game could be amazing with a huge population draw with a good income for your business, but first you must listen to your customers who are spending the money to support your game. So far my review of your game is a 4.7 out of 10.
Plainly put without real negativity heaped at the devs… The loot system is unpleasant. If it remains you need to seriously rethink the gold charge…put it down to something like 10 gold maybe. Regardless if a pilots current average chance at an item is higher with the new drop rate, the ---- perceived ---- impact is having far more negative effects. Was rare but happy moment to see a purple. To see them now, but have them break seems cruel.
The change to engineer’s… well the dmg drop is fine. The change to the drones is fine… but both in the face of the hefty buff to interceptors. That seems a bit too much. I tried 5 games in random T2 for kicks in my covert ops Swift Mk3. I specifically went hunting engineers… and it was mean. The vast majority had no option available to them other then panic, or in many cases they GAVE UP an sat still while I destroyed them. A few tried various tricks including gating, but in the end only prolonged their life by another 15 seconds. Could you perhaps consider spawning engineer drones in full when the ship spawns, instead of none to start? In effect the engineer is waiting 40 seconds after spawn before reaching full effectiveness. No other ship in the game suffers this sort of penalty. It actually encourages them to sit in the back instead of mixing it up in dynamic combat. In games with random players, the need for support that will offset their drawbacks simply isn’t there. It makes them rather unpleasant to fly. I’m lost on why you did not consider simply not allowing stacking heals, or even better simply make it so that no one ship could get healed by more then two engineer frigates tops. Maybe even simply make it so it has diminishing returns on heal stacking. I’d personally rather you return them to 6 turrets an simply get rid of drones entirely. Their purpose has been changed so radically that they really seem more like an annoying perk that you guys simply can’t find a truely useful purpose for. Drones that spawn every 20 seconds is rather silly when you consider that a single standard missile will destroy all deployed drones.
Purely oppinion, but I think you may come to regret giving interceptors even more …everything. Most had a tough time an complained about them… that was good thing. A good/great pilot could take the old interceptor an make it truely scary. Now, it’s an average joe’s ship with decent survivability even with only average pilot skills. Your likely going to see them EVERYWHERE when they catch on.
my game keeps crashing now that this update has gone live. i have sent in the error report each time it crashed. I haven’t been able to last with game running stable for more than 2 minutes.
If you’re having trouble with interceptors in the game right now, you have two friends you’re not using:
If you’re in a gunship, your friend’s name is rapid fire railguns.
If you’re in anything else, your friend’s name is stabilized railguns.
These friends are guaranteed to solve all your interceptor-related problems in just a few shots, except for engineer frigates lolhealing them to full between every shot at T3 and up.
If you had ever gotten used to flying in expert mode the change to the camera view wouldn’t have been such a big issue…
Flying in expert mode makes no sense as it’s impossible to point your turrets behind your ships with that control scheme. You’re effectively gimping yourself by playing in that mode.