Population of this game last weekend was about 2400 online 2000 player in battles at this time.
Now only 1000 /?? wtf , this patch answered all!
ok wil add them and put negative option for above. TY
I’m an amoeba, I can’t afford brain cells. Though I agree with the OP’s 2nd, 4th and 5th point. Dunno about the 3rd, as I’m just a T2 Ace amoeba.
But I like the new hud and the challenge of the new MM.
(bloody forum filter corrects the N-word in my sig to Ace… lawl)
I can only imagine their faces coming back to work on Monday and looking at their bank accounts… “wtf , nothing there how did that happen , what have we done wrong?” 
How exactly can you people, as developers who purportedly care for their game and their playerbase, justify so many changes that make this game horrible? I’m extremely disappointed in the absolute lack of judgement, maturity and foresight you guys show as game developers. Do you honestly only care about making some quick cash by stealing them from children too naive to know better?
This game is now a piss-poor farm fest where players who played from the start, especially your own country-men who you favoritise, have the upper hand and new players are totally screwed. You are now no better than any korean mmo where all you do is grind until your soul expires. If you had any desire to make this into a competitive high-profile game with a vibrant community, congratulations, you screwed up all your chances. It was bad enough that players with no license were basically treated like trash but now it’s virtually impossible to play how you want.
If you honestly care about your players and are not just greedy like some money-hungry pigs, the following changes need to be made:
- All tiers should now only be matched against themselves again. I do not want to be farmed by Tier 3 ships when I play Tier 2. This is not good gameplay, it is just stupid. I don’t give a rat’s xxxx that players at Tier 3 and Tier 4 have no one to play with and have to farm bots. This is your fault and needs to be addressed directly, not by artificially “repairing” it making it so that everyone is matched with everyone. Yay, Tier 4 players now farm lower players instead bots. Can’t you see how wrong this is? And when your playerbase starts to fall, you’re gonna wondered what the hell happened.
Worse is how completely you can ignore a Poll you set up. The majority did not want this trash to happen and yet you, as democracry-challenged people, completely disregard this. I understand that communism for you too, but guess what, my own contry was communist as well, but we understand what “majority” means.
The absolute worst however is how I can no longer play with my lower rank friends without them getting curb-stomped. A week ago I was happily helping my friends get into this game by playing with them at rank 2. Now I get screwed however I want to play.
- Reduce all ship prices to how they were before. I never wanted Mark 1 junk on any of my ships, ever. You make us waste money by artificially boosting prices with crap equipment, that in no way reflects what I want on my ships. Or, you know, make it more grindy and go bankrupt. The funniest part was that you even increased the prices for ships bought with galactic standards, how greedy can you get and how deluded can you be thinking people will actually spend 35 euroes on a ship?
- Why the hell do I get reduced rank now when I play my Tier 2 ships? Because I’m a rank 11 Empire player and I loved playing at tier 2 where everything looked balanced. At tier 3 and above everything is not balanced at all, mostly because of the favoritism you showed to people who played in the closed beta. I enjoyed playing Tier 2 the most and felt the rewards there were most suited to me. Now I make 100 reputation because I play what I enjoy, how fucked up is that? So basically you’re punishing me for playing how I like just because you can’t seem to fix your older mistakes and had to make the players forcefully use their highest rank ship so tier 4 players have someone to farm?
- “Loot” (hahahahaha, can’t believe it’s still called that when it should be called “trash”), is now worth 10 times (10 TIMES!!!) less than it was before? I don’t even see the point anymore in clicking the buttons after battle. Why not just remove it, it’s basically removed how it is now anyway. One of the things that made me want to win was knowing that I got so more good cash after I won a battle. Way to provide incentives for your players, devs. They’ll be sure to enjoy the crap grindfest this game is now.
- Increase loyalty gain by about 20%. It’s too slow now. As I said I’m rank 11 Empire and barely rank 8 with Legion and rank 1 with all the others and I did was legion. Make it faster a bit just so people can actually catch up to the guys who got loyalty gain with all sub-factions in closed beta.
Instead of destroying your game and making it totally innaccessible to new players while favoritising veterans, you should be focused on creating more balanced equipment and new content.
I’m extremely disappointed in myself for having paid for a license in this game and will be calling my credit card provider to issue a chargeback. I can see now that giving money to you guys would only make you xxxx on your community more, and I’m never making this mistake again. Greed must not be encouraged and is the cancer that is killing the gaming community.
one thing , take a quick look at the other games Gaijin is “managing” and how nice theyre ripping their customers off , you think thatll change , especially now ?
One thing I have noticed about the scoring system…
Sometimes I like to tackle the blood lust pilots (they target you and just keep fighting you until they manage or just follow you trying forever), and sometimes manage to kite 2 or 3, sometimes even 4 have me targeted, ignoring objectives, AND other pilots on my team getting the job done. That’s me, taking up the time of damn near a quarter of the other teams players away from what really needs doing, making it sometimes much easier for my team mates to mop up. What do I get at the end of the mission ? You got it, middle of the road “Scoring” and rather lack luster rewards. This bothers me a bit.
I can only imagine their faces coming back to work on Monday and looking at their bank accounts… “wtf , nothing there how did that happen , what have we done wrong?”
im afraid they dont give crap about it. Its Beta for them, And we are free beta testers. Comunity opinion and population will really matter only after release of the game, after their PR company.
Bad update: I really don’t like being in a squad of all T3/T4 ships and being placed in a t2 scenario.
Biased poll is biased. Though I feel being minority for finding mixed tiers challenging and fun, so not many will care.
By the way… correct me if I’m wrong, but I recall point based rewarding was already there before. It could have been refined with the last patch, but I’m quite sure I got more cash when I scored better compared to others in the previous version too.
Such system can’t be flawless - I know no number represents my usefulness if I keep many ships busy on a 'ceptor while others complete the objectives - but it’s better than the alternative of everyone getting the same rep/xp/cash. Where would be the incentive to win than? Certainly not in the freshly nerfed loot of the winning team. :-]
1st isn’t always the best, but in this case. +1
Oh Jesus, as an owner of about 10 armies of 40K and Fantasy I can tell you your money is better spent here.
The developer tweak stuff every week and often give us compensation.
Error says they are on to it.
It’ll be fixed next Thursday like it always is.
It’ll be fixed next Thursday like it always is.
*cough* loyalty *cough*
Rumors are that it’s all part of a big master plan. It will all be sunshine and rainbows soon.
Of course we are reading the feedback, but again this topic is not for flames and bug reports.
We will do our best to find a solution.
Of course we are reading the feedback, but again this topic is not for flames and bug reports.
We will do our best to find a solution.
Rollback the matchmaking… fix loyalty, fix the weapon mods.
So , as i mentioned in an other thread , i share mixing T1 , T2 ,T3 is not favourable because in my opinion these three tiers are too different in ship power , that it can’t be compensated by skill of a casual player or beginner. Though i love mixing T3 and T4 , there you can compensate the 3 slot less of a T3 ship by a little good flying. I have a lot of fun since patch flying my T3 ships against T4 and shred some of them ;).
But there’s not only T3 and T4 , so i vote for complete remove of tier mixing , for the greater good
Ps: no Problems here with eff points , you get MORE when you DO more ! But yeah , seeing people afk and not being kicked out if the game is a little weird.
May be it is possible to implement a feature , where too long doing nothing , the game giving you a 5 sec warning , if you then dont move at least 1000 m, you will be kicked out of the game . I prefer to play with one Player or two less , then sharing my Money with someone who doesn’t earn it .
Rollback the matchmaking… fix loyalty, fix the weapon mods.
u forget about loot and new ships fitting as an _ optional _ purchase for new players. experienced players should have a choice of buying naked ship and fit it themself. seriously, mk1 price increse wasnt enof, they need us to waste money on modules we already have.
If this 2 problems wont be fixed in next patch i guess a lot of ppl will quit the game. Just as happens with loyality patch.
There are some things that are anoying me with this patch.
One is that i cant understand the rise of prices of the ships in the way is now. We should have the option to buy with or without modules loaded. For me is a bad thing cause i can buy almost every MKIII mods and weapons and its a waste of credits to buy a ship loaded with MKI or MKII.
The other thing is the wait time that you have to wait to play a game. Before the last patch this was wonderfull, you didnt have to wait mutch time but now even in T3 the wait times are tooo long.
There are other things that they need to solve but they are not very important now (at least for me).
I understand that the devs are making changes that not allways are welcome but we need to understand that its the way to do things. You try and if its bad you change it. Im sure the devs are concerned about this and are working to solve this but they need some time to do.
I have to admit I’m amazed there was still 1800 players online last night, I doubt it will be so in a weeks time unless they manage to fix all this shlt they brought in the last patch…
Honestly, i have better games with new matchmaking, more balanced teams imho xD Even though there are tier 4 in tier 2 games…
You guys have to understand, playerbase is small, they can’t rly go and do OK, WE WILL MAKE IT SO THAT TEAMS ARE EVENLY BALANCED BY PLAYER SKILL AND TIER AND MODULES AND BLABLALBA… Queues would be 20 minutes, and you’d end up with same people every time and when 2 of them quit, you will have a 20 min queue again (maybe more).
I just have a problem with ship values and credit earning potential atm. I can focus only on 1 type of ships, i can’t buy a frig and an interceptor of the same rank, and have enough money to buy the next rank ones (i equiped them both and i unlocked the next rank ships and i couldn’t buy any of them two, because i had no money xD) Also, it would be better if you let players choose if they want modules or not, or just naked ships 
OK here’s my opinion on the new patch. At first I was pissed just like everyone else, but after a day the MM part of patch is GETTING better. It just took time to gather enough information. The whole “I’m matched up with a T4 in my T3 game”, isn’t that bad if your suppose to be at that T3 level. Yes when you first start off in T3 it’s going to be tough till you get your implants, but if you have a T4 in there it’s most likely ONLY a rank 10 T4 not a rank 11 or 12. Remember each tier has a basic ship and the other two ships in that tier are your sub-faction ships for each race. Raid and Tech’s ships for Jerico faction for example.
I still don’t like the whole Reputation and loyalty gains part of the last 2 patches and still think something needs to be done in that department. I would like to see rep and loyalty gains after each game, but not as much as before the patches. Another thought might be giving premium accounts more bonuses now that you are suppose to be able to squad up with 4 people without it. I would pay for that.
Like some people have said its a it’s still a beta, any gains you are getting now are going to be a bonus over the new players still yet to come to the beta and once it goes live.
I know what you mean about bloodlust players, Aircraftman, but I often find I am forced into that role - with contracts being the only way to gain rep, and some contracts being obviously counter-productive, you are forced to pointlessly pew-pew at least once every few games - how else am I going to satisfy contract requirements that involve killing players with a particular weapon? Certainly not by plating a bomb or capturing a beacon, and even less by flying an interceptor for the purpose of distracting the opposing team from their objectives - they’re probably already distracted because they’re thinking about grinding loyalty through similar contracts.