Star Conflict 1.3.3 Discussion

Mercenary Center Patch Discussion
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I deliberately tried countering destroyers in my Eagle-B. If they have any kind of support, or can track targets quickly, you can’t take them on. The interceptors are good at harassment or finishing off crippled ships, but you need your own destroyers to deal the bulk of the damage.

Mass destroyers with an engineer to heal and a tackler or ecm to shut down inties will roll anything but a rival destroyer fleet

so then it becomes Destroyers versus destroyers. An absolute mess, in my opinion. Which is what all of t3, t4 pvp has devolved to.

 

Not a fan

 

Edit: I’m not an admin or anything, but I implore you; please stay on topic. This bickering is cluttering the topic.

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Yesterday:

 

Went to OS to get myself some Beryllium.

Know all the spots, got to many sectors… saw no problem, until…

I looted… for 3 hours.

Got 40 containers… and NO BERYLLIUM!

Someone gave me a beryllium ore nugget…

I found only 1 Enriched Beryllium in 2 days and 6 hours of search in Open Space.

 

So, here is my message about 1.3.3.

Considerably raise the chances of getting Beryllium and Beryllium ore nuggets.

Also, remove CPU crap item from Mysterious Container, if you want people to buy it and replace this component with it instead.

 

Game is now P2W, because you won’t get any resource that you need. Even Neodium plates drop rate has been nerfed.

I am disappointed, but like I said, I will not buy Bundles, unless those daydreamers think of a better economic model for the packs.

Instead of possible drops, ensure guaranteed drops and people will suddenly start buying much more packs. It would be better in the long run.

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Also, a reminder. Any ninja update or patch, no matter how small, if it fixes something, please add the update information in it.

 

Example:

 

1.3.3, update 3

  • auto-repair and auto-resupply ammunition now works correctly, if enabled in the game menu

  • Phaser weapon issue has been resolved

  • etc.

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Yesterday:

 

Went to OS to get myself some Beryllium.

Know all the spots, got to many sectors… saw no problem, until…

I looted… for 3 hours.

Got 40 containers… and NO BERYLLIUM!

Someone gave me a beryllium ore nugget…

I found only 1 Enriched Beryllium in 2 days and 6 hours of search in Open Space.

 

So, here is my message about 1.3.3.

Considerably raise the chances of getting Beryllium and Beryllium ore nuggets.

Also, remove CPU crap item from Mysterious Container, if you want people to buy it and replace this component with it instead.

 

Game is now P2W, because you won’t get any resource that you need. Even Neodium plates drop rate has been nerfed.

I am disappointed, but like I said, I will not buy Bundles, unless those daydreamers think of a better economic model for the packs.

Instead of possible drops, ensure guaranteed drops and people will suddenly start buying much more packs. It would be better in the long run.

Koromac, could you please tell me why new unique content should be available for everyone on the first day? It’s free-to-play game, in free-to-play games people are grinding. 

And why did you decide that drop rate of neodium has been nerfed? Rakza and Error warned you about dissemination of false information, why do you continue this?

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Can destroyer guns be destroyed just like modules? That way a Plasma Arc can actually disable a destroyer, and Coil Guards can actually take them on if they get through the shields.

 

The guns should have more HP so that they don’t die to one Plasma Arc, maybe two or one plus some fire. 

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Koromac, could you please tell me why new unique content should be available for everyone on the first day? It’s free-to-play game, in free-to-play games people are grinding. 

And why did you decide that drop rate of neodium has been nerfed? Rakza and Error warned you about dissemination of false information, why do you continue this?

So, you’re saying that loot drops are the same? That’s good news, except for Enriched Beryllium and Beryllium ore drop rates. It’s good to know that it’s still the same.

When 10 other people said the same thing to me, I assumed that you might have changed it. I stated this as a fact, even when it was an assumption, which was my only mistake.

 If it is a false information, it wasn’t intentional. I just provided a community feedback, which doesn’t mean, that I thought of that in the first place. Such conclusion was based from multiple sources.

 

Look, I do not want to grind. I want to buy Bundles, but I won’t spend money on something that I might not get at all. This randomness must stop.

At least, increase the price for a bit and give us what we want for guaranteed drops. Then everyone will be happy.

A lot of players said to me, that if a guaranteed drops would be given to us in the Store, such issue would not even be the case, even if you would have to buy packs, because you would know how much do you have to spend.

As for the Beryllium, you must admit that the drop rate is too low. Grind won’t help you, if you’re looking for a needle in the haystack. It should be hard to find. The others confirmed the same.

I will be quiet from now on, if you can provide me with the drop rate information for neodium plate and enriched beryllium in % chance for rank 7 and rank 10 danger sectors. This way you can show me some understanding.

 

Like I said, sometimes failure to reveal certain facts can have undesired side effects. It’s not only me, but people conclude things based on their experience. I am mostly the messenger here.

My opinion is not always my own, but general. If more of them have the same experience, you assume, that something has changed.

I wish that we would have better interaction/communication, when it comes to such issues with the developers.

So, you can assume, that the fault is not only on my side, but on both sides, so I am not the only one to blame for this.

I am sure that you understand, that I only wish the best thing for this game, like most of us do.

 

 

 

Regards,

Koromac

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First, this grindy way to get neodium/beryllium is hellish…I will not waste my time in OS looking for these mats…

 

Second, this destroyer mess spam will draw only 2 things:

  1. to play with R8-13 just for Broker’s daily tasks…to gain that monos/plates

2. after that, to play only with R15 ships (to avoid R11 destroyers and till R14 destroyers will be released, then I will abandon this former T5 tier) or with R1-7 ships [(to avoid R8 destroyers…so I dont want to hear complaints about seal clubbing new players…when playing low ranks ships…by me and many others]

Another ships played in R8-14 have their roles heavily diminished, so no incentive to play them anymore, instead of destroyer there. This is a super crap turn to this game, that makes players to play it less time…Keep on walking, Gaijin!

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Koro, that’s the mechanics of how the company earns the money - by lottery. 

For curious ones - you need around 30k GS worth of containers to get materials for one T4 destroyer on average. Unless you got 11 times in a row enriched beryllium [3], then you are lucky and should go to Vegas.

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This destroyer mess spam will draw only 2 things:

  1. to play with R8-13 just for Broker’s daily tasks…to gain that monos/plates

2. after that, to play only with R15 ships (to avoid R11 destroyers) or with R1-7 ships [(to avoid R8 destroyers…so I dont want to hear complaints about seal clubbing new players…when playing low ranks ships…]

 

Another ships played in R8-14 have their roles heavily diminished, so no incentive to play them anymore, instead of destroyer there. This is a super crap turn to this game, that makes players to play it less time…

I took my Destroyer to T5. It was very helpful, thank you very much. And I was facing R15s as well. 

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Koro, that’s the mechanics of how the company earns the money - by lottery. 

For curious ones - you need around 30k GS worth of containers to get materials for one T4 destroyer on average. Unless you got 11 times in a row enriched beryllium [3], then you are lucky and should go to Vegas.

Well, I wish that we could have both options. Lottery and guaranteed items. The only difference should be the price in GS.

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Takes into account the number of destroyers per side…yeah.,…

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Not only that, you put BOTH T4 destroyers on the SAME side.

 

Edit: Again the T4 destroyer is on the same side that has more destroyers (granted the enemy didn’t use theirs straight away and got ruined)

 

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I am not sure if I get the mechanics of the photon emitter. Dose it make a ship lose hull em resistance completely and if so how can it stack?

Photon Emitter

A combat module for suppressor class destroyers that creates a stream of active particles. A compact cloud of these particles can travel up to 70 000 m.
Available starting with rank 11
Its explosion creates an unstable zone in space
The ships that fall into this zone lose hull resistance to EM damage.
The effect stacks

 

Also, that 70K m range seems to be a bit off.

 

P.S.: I don’t have r11 limo yet but I see the light now. 8 e berries to go.

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I dont like where pvp has went at all.

No proper squadding allowed, destroyers everywhere, pretty much every strategy is gone.

 

Flew against R11 destroyers not fun a loss every time, same issue that was there with R8 destroyers randoms can not/will not focus fire.

 

Previously I thought thats all that needed fixing with R8 destroyer was the barrier, the ability to tank huge damage and negate 90% of the main weapons is a bit much. R15 orange rails on a gunship going overdrive should do more than make space for the next R8 barrier to go up.

 

However now i have built one of these R11 monsters its riduculous. More tank and more dps with the addition of some special modules that can prevent beacon capture or outrange all but the most cowardly of lrf players. Winning should be fun, at the moment for me it is not. Thats a little odd but unsuprising now that many games have become, choose destroyer, kill every other destroyer, win game.

 

Two tales

1st. CTB mode, warped to enemy beacon killed 5 players and capped, gave aggro from afar just out of range of thier spawn. Enemy team got a clue and started to get in fast ships and cap our beacons. Continued my nonsense till we had one beacon left, warped back stuck the cappers in a black hole and tore them to shreds with halo + photon combo. Win game.

2nd. Two combat recon games as captain, vision meant that i could hit any target in the open with photon from 10k away assuming i had los. A few misses but overall continued dps and resist reduction being applied to enemy team. Win game.

 

Neither of these stories tell of any teamwork being applied just riduculous weapons that seemed to be designed for use against something that didnt need too much fixing to begin with. In other words poor players/teams are being rewarded with wins just for having an R11 on their team.

 

All in all an average patch im sure ill have fun for a week, till every other player get an R11 destro and it all becomes a camp fest an single button kill. I only hope now all the players who absolutely adore their R8 will see what the problem is introducing things like this to the game and im sure ill enjoy punishing them.

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Koromac, could you please tell me why new unique content should be available for everyone on the first day? It’s free-to-play game, in free-to-play games people are grinding.

And why did you decide that drop rate of neodium has been nerfed? Rakza and Error warned you about dissemination of false information, why do you continue this?

It’s only grind if it isn’t fun. And if you made it so people could purchase materials, rather than purchasing a random chance of possibly getting materials they want, you’d have a better uptake. If you made obtaining resources more enjoyable to begin with you’d likely have better uptake, since people wouldn’t resent the store so much.

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Consider yourself lucky if you got any of the good rank up rewards or that your even getting ship parts, all us people that had already reached R15 in all factions got nothing.

What makes you think I got anything either? My Faction ranks are 10 13 and 11. I had one shot of having a destroyer, and I was one synergy level away from the rank 11 reward before they _destroyed _it. I even threw some $$$ for premium to actually grind my ship, and then they absolutely ruin my single goal.

 

Not that it isn’t sh*tty toss that all pilots didn’t earn the rewards retro-actively, Im starting to think the rank rewards weren’t even real to begin with. When I reached rank 12 I wasn’t rewarded the whatever package r12 reward until I filed a support claim. Those were the only parts I got.

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What makes you think I got anything either? My Faction ranks are 10 13 and 11. I had one shot of having a destroyer, and I was one synergy level away from the rank 11 reward before they _destroyed _it. I even threw some $$$ for premium to actually grind my ship, and then they absolutely ruin my single goal.

 

Not that it isn’t sh*tty toss that all pilots didn’t earn the rewards retro-actively, Im starting to think the rank rewards weren’t even real to begin with. When I reached rank 12 I wasn’t rewarded the whatever package r12 reward until I filed a support claim. Those were the only parts I got.

 

You will still get parts, though now you will have to do what we have to do, grind out the monos and resources from missions and OS. At least you have some rewards left to enjoy. Also, a lot of the players that have reached R15 have spent money on this game, I have spent a fair bit, which I did not regret at the time as the game was fun, but the game is changing for the worse it seems. Hopefully they will try and balance it all out and get squads back into the game.

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You will still get parts, though now you will have to do what we have to do, grind out the monos and resources from missions and OS. At least you have some rewards left to enjoy. Also, a lot of the players that have reached R15 have spent money on this game, I have spent a fair bit, which I did not regret at the time as the game was fun, but the game is changing for the worse it seems. Hopefully they will try and balance it all out and get squads back into the game.

Yeah here’s the thing: Im not investing my way through the game, so R15 is a virtual impossability to me. I don’t consider any of the remaining rewards attainable except for the now single neodium plate, and thats only because it’s the cerberus, which is rank 8. By leveling that ship I could have reached rank 11, now there isn’t even a point.

 

AND THEY DESTROYED THESE REWARDS LITERALLY DAYS AFTER I ACTUALLY DID INVEST TO TRY AN ATTAIN THEM. I won’t lie, this feels like personal H8 from the devs/publisher. 'HAH we got your money, now f*ck you!'

 

Why even did they do this? Was it because so many veteran pilots didn’t get these rewards too? So their solution for that was ‘Make it sh*ttier for everyone.’?

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Yeah here’s the thing: Im not investing my way through the game, so R15 is a virtual impossability to me. I don’t consider any of the remaining rewards attainable except for the now single neodium plate, and thats only because it’s the cerberus, which is rank 8. By leveling that ship I could have reached rank 11, now there isn’t even a point.

 

AND THEY DESTROYED THESE REWARDS LITERALLY DAYS AFTER I ACTUALLY DID INVEST TO TRY AN ATTAIN THEM. I won’t lie, this feels like personal H8 from the devs/publisher. 'HAH we got your money, now f*ck you!'

 

How do you think we feel, we don’t even get a chance to get them. Honestly getting to R15 is not that difficult at all.

 

Have you been maxing your ships out? Each maxed ship increases the synergy you earn in battle.

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How do you think we feel, we don’t even get a chance to get them. Honestly getting to R15 is not that difficult at all.

 

Have you been maxing your ships out? Each maxed ship increases the synergy you earn in battle.

Look my only goal once I started playing this game again was to full syn all my ships up to rank9. Im at Fleet strength 62 now, and the only reason I have ships rankred higher than that is because I mained the entire fed tree when i first started playing years ago and had t4 ships for OS. Getting to R15 may not be hard, but it will always be long, unless you want to spend hours, at least 6 hours a day, synergizing, and that doesn’t interest me. Nor does payin anexorbatant price for a GS ship.

 

I know how you feel, also not having a chance to get anything. Just because it’s possible by the games parameters, doesn’t make it possible by mine.

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I m starting to hate the game, that is how far it has come. Destroyers everywhere, no tactics, no use of ship roles, no eye for objectives, overpowered r8 and r11 destroyers in every game,… Remove destroyers from regular pvp, even nerfing them wouldnt be enough to get rid of the boredom this game has fallen too. 

 

Congrats devs, i ve never been so close to quiting this game