It is now a feature Nightmare! At least people will stop using those stupid gauss mjollnirs now there’s something else OP to use. I like a bit of variety.
It’s a “bug” it will be changed soon.
Gauss Mjolnir was fun…it was not OP!
Gauss Mjolnir was fun…it was not OP!
It isn’t OP, but it is good enough to use it.
And railguns still shootin with 442.5 RoF under overdrive
Overdrive gives you 100 shots per minutes (50% from base (from 200shots/min base)) not 50% from w/e you have, meaning you shoot almost 400 shots/min
Overdrive gives you 100 shots per minutes (50% from base (from 200shots/min base)) not 50% from w/e you have, meaning you shoot almost 400 shots/min
Than my RoF is 395 shots/min.
Why isn’t this kind of info in the description of weapons/modules?
I know it is too much for newbies to handle at start,but still it should be put in.
Than my RoF is 395 shots/min.
Why isn’t this kind of info in the description of weapons/modules?
I know it is too much for newbies to handle at start,but still it should be put in.
Well this is a general rule on how all things work, all of the positive modifiers are summed and then applied to base values, be it a Pulse Dischargers, implants HP volume w/e. You cant really add this into every-single module, implant. This is more of a wiki material.
Well this is a general rule on how all things work, all of the positive modifiers are summed and then applied to base values, be it a Pulse Dischargers, implants HP volume w/e. You cant really add this into every-single module, implant. This is more of a wiki material.
I know that (apart from special modules i didn’t know it effect base stats).I ment about gauss,positrons,ecm stuns disminishing returns,etc…
So we’re just going to gloss over this Warthunder ship tree business eh? Once again it seems as if the only concerns being addresses here are those of experienced players. You’ve removed a large element of autonomy and choice from the game which only effects players who haven’t maxed their ship trees out. I don’t see how as a developer of a video game anyone thought it was a good idea to limit a player’s ability to make autonomous choices about the nature of their progress through the game. Then to add insult to injury, although it seems to be a valid concern for others as well, the only posts on this thread getting lip service from the mods are those posted by the aces and r15 guys who’ve been playing this game forever. It’s pretty crappy to have one of your favorite games take a dump on you because the developers want to maximize profit by weighing the grind down with unnecessary struggle, then having your voice ignored because you’re not a top tier player.
So we’re just going to gloss over this Warthunder ship tree business eh? Once again it seems as if the only concerns being addresses here are those of experienced players. You’ve removed a large element of autonomy and choice from the game which only effects players who haven’t maxed their ship trees out. I don’t see how as a developer of a video game anyone thought it was a good idea to limit a player’s ability to make autonomous choices about the nature of their progress through the game. Then to add insult to injury, although it seems to be a valid concern for others as well, the only posts on this thread getting lip service from the mods are those posted by the aces and r15 guys who’ve been playing this game forever. It’s pretty crappy to have one of your favorite games take a dump on you because the developers want to maximize profit by weighing the grind down with unnecessary struggle, then having your voice ignored because you’re not a top tier player.
I think Doombot gave up answering to everyone in this thread a long time ago XD This thread is doomed to offtopicness, arguments and premature closure.
If you really want your voice heard then make a new thread with your proposals in the “suggestions” section.
@MisterShai
The problem is, we - the r15 guys - don’t really know what you’re talking about. It’s not that we don’t care at all, but the patch notes, as usually, don’t say that much about what you’re describing and most of us can’t even notice the change in leveling up, it’s just invisible once you’ve unlocked your ships.
If it is as you say it is, I agree it’s preposterous, but on the other hand you were kinda/sorta compensated by being given free materials upon rank-up that the rest of us now need to grind for - and we’re talking about something far more unpleasant than just playing with unleveled ships or maxing them out with free synergy.
That’s not to say we’re in an objectively worse position than yours, it’s just that we can’t relate and we’re kind of jealous, because believe it or not, newcomers have it easier (though not necessarily better, if that makes any sense).
@MisterShai
The problem is, we - the r15 guys - don’t really know what you’re talking about. It’s not that we don’t care at all, but the patch notes, as usually, don’t say that much about what you’re describing and most of us can’t even notice the change in leveling up, it’s just invisible once you’ve unlocked your ships.
If it is as you say it is, I agree it’s preposterous, but on the other hand you were kinda/sorta compensated by being given free materials upon rank-up that the rest of us now need to grind for - and we’re talking about something far more unpleasant than just playing with unleveled ships or maxing them out with free synergy.
That’s not to say we’re in an objectively worse position than yours, it’s just that we can’t relate and we’re kind of jealous, because believe it or not, newcomers have it easier (though not necessarily better, if that makes any sense).
See but you’re talking about the grind for building ships and destroyers, which personally I could care less about. I’d give every single neo plate and mono crystal I had to be able to just play the baseline game the way it was when I first started. This isn’t an argument over acquiring materials, it’s about a feature of the baseline play of the game that was instituted which limits the player’s ability to control their progress. Free materials for a ship I don’t even want doesn’t even begin to make up for the fact that my forward progress in this game was just castrated. I spent weeks grinding out in ships I didn’t like flying to complete Miss Frost missions, and when I completed them, was happy that I never had to fly them again. Now, to even level up, not only do I have to purchase and upgrade ships I don’t enjoy, but I have to purchase and upgrade MULTIPLE ships I don’t enjoy just to move forward in the ranks. I’ve been grinding toward a R11 for a month, and the day I acquire enough synergy and credits to purchase it, I’m told that I can’t even move up a rank until I’ve purchased SIX MORE SHIPS. If I wanted those six ships, I would already have them. I’ve bought and sold ships after finding out I didn’t enjoy them so i could use the credits to pursue a line of progress that I enjoy. Now I’m FORCED to go back and spend miserable hours re-levelling things I never had an intention of flying again. The only justification for this is to make the grind harder and longer so people will be more likely to purchase licenses and premium ships to speed up their purchasing and levelling. There is ABSOLUTELY NO aspect of this game in which limiting the ship tree in the way it has been limited would add to the enjoyment of the game. This is an inadvertent attack by the devs on their own game by limiting and hindering the low to mid level players, plain and simple. I’m afraid this feature will have an extremely detrimental effect on the already dwindling player population. I know that I played for at least two to three hours a day before this patch, and now, the thought of even logging on irritates me because I know that what awaits me is no longer fun, but work. I’ve gone from enjoying this game above any game I’ve ever played to being absolutely disgusted in a matter of days.
I think Doombot gave up answering to everyone in this thread a long time ago XD This thread is doomed to offtopicness, arguments and premature closure.
If you really want your voice heard then make a new thread with your proposals in the “suggestions” section.
He didn’t have problems responding to posts made after mine. My concerns were just passed over because I’m a new and unknown player, the same way the game is screwing over the new and unknown players now. If you’re not in NASA, or OWL, or WPK, or don’t have a thousand plus battles under your stats, or a hundred plus forum posts, then your voice doesn’t matter apparently.
He ignores me too, so don’t think it’s because you’re new. 
He ignores me too, so don’t think it’s because you’re new.
Fair enough, I’m just incensed by this whole thing. My favorite game in existence just took a crap on my face. I took millanbel’s advice and re-posted in suggestions section.
Yeah he’s selected on his replies. I stand by what I said that suggestions part is the best place to go.
Fair enough, I’m just incensed by this whole thing. My favorite game in existence just took a crap on my face. I took millanbel’s advice and re-posted in suggestions section.
Yep I saw 
Now hope for an answer
If you’re not in NASA, or OWL, or WPK, or don’t have a thousand plus battles under your stats, or a hundred plus forum posts, then your voice doesn’t matter apparently. your voice doesn’t matter apparently. MY voice doesn’t matter apparently. OUR voices don’t matter apparently.
Destroyers will not be OP
He ignores me too, so don’t think it’s because you’re new.
This. Half of my stuff gets ignored as well, ironically the less time i spend on making a post the more often it gets replied to compared to my more well thought out posts. 
It sucks and i do see certain people usually get a reply more often, but at the same time speaking out in defense of the developers, they’re not community managers, if they had a budget to do so they would probably hire a full time community manager, but they don’t so the developers themselves have to interact with the community wich i would guess they’d rather spend that time on making the game better.
See but you’re talking about the grind for building ships and destroyers, which personally I could care less about. I’d give every single neo plate and mono crystal I had to be able to just play the baseline game the way it was when I first started. This isn’t an argument over acquiring materials, it’s about a feature of the baseline play of the game that was instituted which limits the player’s ability to control their progress. Free materials for a ship I don’t even want doesn’t even begin to make up for the fact that my forward progress in this game was just castrated. I spent weeks grinding out in ships I didn’t like flying to complete Miss Frost missions, and when I completed them, was happy that I never had to fly them again. Now, to even level up, not only do I have to purchase and upgrade ships I don’t enjoy, but I have to purchase and upgrade MULTIPLE ships I don’t enjoy just to move forward in the ranks. I’ve been grinding toward a R11 for a month, and the day I acquire enough synergy and credits to purchase it, I’m told that I can’t even move up a rank until I’ve purchased SIX MORE SHIPS. If I wanted those six ships, I would already have them. I’ve bought and sold ships after finding out I didn’t enjoy them so i could use the credits to pursue a line of progress that I enjoy. Now I’m FORCED to go back and spend miserable hours re-levelling things I never had an intention of flying again. The only justification for this is to make the grind harder and longer so people will be more likely to purchase licenses and premium ships to speed up their purchasing and levelling. There is ABSOLUTELY NO aspect of this game in which limiting the ship tree in the way it has been limited would add to the enjoyment of the game. This is an inadvertent attack by the devs on their own game by limiting and hindering the low to mid level players, plain and simple. I’m afraid this feature will have an extremely detrimental effect on the already dwindling player population. I know that I played for at least two to three hours a day before this patch, and now, the thought of even logging on irritates me because I know that what awaits me is no longer fun, but work. I’ve gone from enjoying this game above any game I’ve ever played to being absolutely disgusted in a matter of days.
If you’re talking about R11 i can understand your pain, this is a post from me from earlier in the thread.
’‘This is good for T1-T3 because of the complaints about tree rushers not knowing how to play in higher tiers/ranks, but not really necessary in T4-T5 i think because of the grind already being long enough in those tiers imo, plus i think if you have spent a considerable time in T3 you SHOULD be able to handle yourself in higher tiers.’'
Even though tiers have been ‘‘removed’’ i usually still mention tiers instead of ranks, but what i would like to see is keep this new system for rank 1-9 and after that you can keep leveling like the old system. The positive thing about the new leveling is less inadequate pilots in the later tiers/ranks, but there’s no need to hold people back once they’ve reached rank 9 because they SHOULD know how to handle themselves in battle at this point.
yep, and t4 is February - March, but this is just the approximate dates, it can be changed. T4 and T5 releases also will come with special events
Well my hype for these things has pretty much gone down to zero, i hope by this time there will at least be a Open Space active module that allows it to repair itself so it can be self sufficient at least in that mode seeing it’s not really a teamwork orientated mode, also hoping that the special events won’t require you to be at your computer every single day again.
Wake me up when Septemb…May ends. :005j:
Nope
Well at least that’s good to hear, i can save up my resources then until the R14 ones are released.
To also add onto my earlier post, i have another suggestion for the new look of the menu/ship tree, now when you select one of your four ships in your loadout it has this white outline around the ship’s slot which i find a bit to subtle. Before the patch i could see at first glance ‘‘ah ok i have this ship selected in this slot of my loadout’’, whereas now i sometimes have to look twice to be sure i’ve selected the correct slot.
I say make it look a bit more obvious which ship you currently have highlighted in which slot.
Well my hype for these things has pretty much gone down to zero, i hope by this time there will at least be a Open Space active module that allows it to repair itself so it can be self sufficient at least in that mode seeing it’s not really a teamwork orientated mode, also hoping that the special events won’t require you to be at your computer every single day again.
Jump to another sector = full health again.
I would like to thank developers of this game for such a nice patch. It required so much work and made my life so much easier. I hate flying capital ships, I like frigates though. Problem is - you cannot kill a destroyer with one ship now. You need teamwork. And you removed squads. Randoms see what’s going on and screaming to get destroyer themselves. So PvP is moving towards destroyer battles. Basically who has more destroyers and engies - wins. Especially when it’s 3vs3 battle where one side has 2 destroyer and the other - none. I already spotted one Team battle consisting exclusively of destroyers and engies. It was boring. There is a game already about capturing and pvping with capital ships. Problem is - in that game fighters and drones are treated like ammo - expendable. I noticed that now T3, sorry - R6-R10 - battles are the same. You took covops against destroyer? You died. Frigate? Well… destroyer will jump to you and eat you with ketchup. Star Conflict was dynamic, tactical pvp shooter. Now it’s boring - stay_in_the_trenches - positional warfare.
Why did you make my life easier? Simple - I’m not playing PvP T3 anymore, and when higher tier destroyers will be deployed I will stop playing higher tiers as well. I started this game in hope of dynamic tactical shooter where one wing kicks xxxx of another, but since it’s not possible I will have so much more time for other activities - and for that - thank you developers!
