Will we need a R8 destroyer to get the R11, and then the R14 one?
Nope
Ah… will they be an entirely different class of destroyer? Not just a Suppressor?
Otherwise, it will feel better to wait and save for them since they will have more options than the T8 destroyer now
Pylinaer,
“The Destroyers cost is just about right. The reason why they aren’t cheap is because of how POWERFUL they are. It’s the same reason why R15s take so long to get. They are more POWERFUL”
No, that’s not it at all. Yes, R15 are more powerful, but you don’t take on R15 with R8. T5 plays other T5. Their increased power is thus cancelled - they’re more expensive because T5 ships are more challenging to use. It’s to mark them out as endgame content, whereas Destroyers are clearly not.
New ship tree in a nutshell: more bling, less functionality.
And 5% neodium drop is pretty bad. I don’t think i’ll farm for a T5 destro without an event…
I’m certainly missing the superior functionality of the old tree. Plus, I don’t like how it’s blatantly copying War Thunder.
Okay, so after reading almost this entire thread. This is the arguments I’ve seen:
The Destroyer’s cost is too high!
It requires soo many monocrystals!
New players won’t be able to craft this!
Neodium is soo hard to find!
T3 won’t be able to get Neodium!
My thoughts:
The Destroyers cost is just about right. The reason why they aren’t cheap is because of how POWERFUL they are. It’s the same reason why R15s take so long to get. They are more POWERFUL.
About monos. I have excess monos. If you don’t, chances are you already built a Special Project ship. The goal is to give you a single Special crafted ship for relative ease, with maybe a bit of grinding after you have played the game for a bit. Not to willy-nilly hand them out to people. The events most likely gave you enough monocrystals that if you had built a Spec Craft ship, that it would not take much to craft this Destroyer. Please note, they are “giving” you one destroyer. If you want another one, then yes you need to grind it out. If you have a problem with that, I’m sorry, but you’re being unrealistic.
New players can’t craft it? PHHHFFFT. Doombot has stated new players will get neodium as they rank up. They also get MONOs as they rank up! Forget that bit? Also by the time you get to rank 8 you should have done a fair number of dailies, else, at that time, they are mostly easy. Again, destroyers are powerful, they should have a bit of work to get them.
Neodium is hard to find. If you’re an existing player, which if you are making this argument you are, then the intent was for you to do the event stuff. If, like me, you did not do some of them, then you are allowed to complete it on your own time.
T3 can’t get neodium? If you’re at T3 right now, you had access to the event. read above.
Now, what I have a problem with:
Crafting Special Project ships…
I understand why you changed the system. If refitting costs credits only, then the price needs to be fixed. What I have a problem with, however, is the number of Graphite Plates you need.
The sheer number required is now ridiculous to just craft the ship. Before it depended on what you wanted to put in it.
Let’s get some actual numbers:
Internal Structures cost 15 Graphite Plates
External Structures cost 18 Graphite Plates
Reactor Packages cost 24 Graphite Plates
So how does that affect the crafting of ships?
Well, the Empire Interceptor requires:
1 Reactor Package
5 External Structures
2 Internal Structures
The total comes to 144 Plates. I reached R15 several months ago. I had a little bit of grinding I needed to do just to craft it but was lazy. Fault on me. I now have nowhere near enough plates to craft this. I have to acquire over 100 plates to complete this. Which amounts to 200 Impure Graphite. That’s for the TINIEST ship.
What about the Frigate, the Kraken? 309 Total for Graphite Plates!
I’m sorry, but this is ridiculous. Right now the Kraken is locked behind several months of straight grinding even WITHOUT making a spec craft ship already. I realize there needs to be some type of cost to them, but this is exorbitant. My proposed solution is to lower the amount of graphite plates needed to craft these structures and package. I don’t know exact figures, but halving them would be nice at minimum.
Conversing with some friends, they also proposed allowing to have these materials bought with CREDITS. A first guess would be about 1million Credits a plate. (or yes X amt GS, but make sure to have them purchasable with credits as well) or also including them in the quest rewards for dailies and/or random blue quests.
Lol, so much contradiction. Stop moaning about the cost of ships! Wait can we make SP ships cheaper…lol!
Anyway, I think the main problem is how we can obtain monocrystals and neodium. With monocrystals you can do the dull daily missions for each faction, and you can get some from leagues too, which is a fun way to do it. Neodium, is an awful grind as it is so so boring. Spending hours on end scanning virtual rocks is not fun. The attraction of this game is about shooting each other and blowing things up, not scanning virtual rocks endlessly…
As far as Graphite Plates go, just salvage mk2 kits, T5 yielding the most. In fact, always salvage kits, credits are easy to come by, resources not so much.
Nice to finally see some advertisement! 
yep, and t4 is February - March, but this is just the approximate dates, it can be changed. T4 and T5 releases also will come with special events
I hope that T5 Destroyer can be moved to rank 15. Why have it at rank 14? I mean, it’s some sort of Secret Project as well.
If it would be up to me, I would put all Destroyers at rank 9,12 and 15. At least rank 15 (Tier V) should use all benefits of implants/crews.
I also think that it’s broken, if people can use standard ships with Destroyers. There should be a mode, which is only dedicated that you only use Destroyer ships.
I hope that T5 Destroyer can be moved to rank 15. Why have it at rank 14? I mean, it’s some sort of Secret Project as well.
If it would be up to me, I would put all Destroyers at rank 9,12 and 15. At least rank 15 (Tier V) should use all benefits of implants/crews.
You just get used to tier system Koromac, the point is do not place them at the top rank of previous tiers.
I also think that it’s broken, if people can use standard ships with Destroyers. There should be a mode, which is only dedicated that you only use Destroyer ships.
More details please. So far i see that destroyers have disadvantages in some modes but also have advantages in other modes. But you are talking about separate mode, that’s why - please explain.
I hope that T5 Destroyer can be moved to rank 15. Why have it at rank 14? I mean, it’s some sort of Secret Project as well.
If it would be up to me, I would put all Destroyers at rank 9,12 and 15. At least rank 15 (Tier V) should use all benefits of implants/crews.
I also think that it’s broken, if people can use standard ships with Destroyers. There should be a mode, which is only dedicated that you only use Destroyer ships.
Being Rank 15 doesn’t grant any extra bonuses though…
Being Rank 15 doesn’t grant any extra bonuses though…
R15 implant
Because you really think they will need:
+5% Damage for Main Weapons?
+5% Hull and Shield Volumes?
+5% Missile’s Damage?
+5% Damage for Main Weapons?
+3% not +5%.
It’s been like this for over 4 months…
R15 implant
Which doesn’t do anything. The R15 implant is a universal upgrade to your entire fleet - once you get it, it applies to every ship, ranks 1-15. So there’s no difference between R14 and R15 ships implant wise.
Which doesn’t do anything. The R15 implant is a universal upgrade to your entire fleet - once you get it, it applies to every ship, ranks 1-15. So there’s no difference between R14 and R15 ships implant wise.
Only synergy/credit part applies to every ship… dmg/hull/missile applies only to R15s
Which doesn’t do anything. The R15 implant is a universal upgrade to your entire fleet - once you get it, it applies to every ship, ranks 1-15. So there’s no difference between R14 and R15 ships implant wise.
Only synergy and credits gain is for all ships.dmg,shield/hull volume,missile dmg is only for rank 15.
Only synergy/credit part applies to every ship… dmg/hull/missile applies only to R15s
Damn i’m 1/2 min late
Because you really think they will need:
+5% Damage for Main Weapons?
+5% Hull and Shield Volumes?
+5% Missile’s Damage?
Weapon Damage is 3%.
Hull and Shield Strength is 5% for both.
Missile slot weapon damage is 5%.
I think that only Tier V (rank 13-15) Destroyers should be at rank 15, since it is the ultimate ship.
When you release rank 15 Premium Destroyers, it will be clear that they are P2W, if you don’t.
I know that it is only a matter of time, before we will be able to buy such ships. Logical assumption!
I noticed something!
Check Sword or Sword S model in PvP/PvE or Open Space.
Something is wrong with the model, if you’re too far from it and also the camera view when you lock on the ship on the top left corner of the screen.
There must be some glitch/clipping issue! Test it with more models, in case if more are affected!
Sort out dreadnoughts please. It is a pile of campy BS that is not fun to play. LRFs, flux phasers, and now destroyers.
And that’s without mentioning the MM process