So are Interceptors OP

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But the implants, they even prevent gravi, right?

Only for 3 seconds. With time and some skills, you will know when he used that implant, and wait for that to use the engine inhibitor.

 

The gravibeamer is a support weapon. You won’t do a lot of damage, but any adaptive ship that you grazes with that will be stripped of tank.

 

The usual actives for a combat tacklers are target painter, sentry drone,  repair, and afterburner inhibitor or engine inhibitor. While on squad you can sack the repair module and go full tackler modules.

 

The amount of rage and focus you get in SQ if you fly a proper support tackler is… noice!

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The only bonus Golden Eagle has i s plasma spread and projectile speed, those 33% only helps vs interceptors, base parameters are enough to fight frigates and fighters with no issues, but in the same time those parameters aren’t that big of a deal, vs good interceptor pilots there is hardly a difference.

DMG wise Golden Eagle only has an edge over Wakizashi-R due to +1 CPU (some could argue with including cooldown rates bonus on WakiR, but i just leave them out), Golden Eagle does NOT have more dmg than Gray Falcon nor Falcon M, and in Falcon M case it is miles behind dmg wise due to orion CD reduction and Falcon-M passive crit bonus (and even capability go All YOLO with extra Pylon)

On top of that, mobility wise, Golden Eagle only has an edge over WakizashiR but on practice Wakizashi R with 540 Speed (while having 2x Adaptives, Emergency Barrier, better cap regen and plain more HP outperforms Golden Eagle as well)

Golden Eagle is not “different” it is plain worse than others, unless you are having problems using Plasma Gunz and that 33% bonus is so crucial for you (but then it is not about the ship)

Forget the em spread reduction  and try it with shrapnel. Just because a ship has a xxxx bonus on something you don’t have to use it.

The waki r with 540 spread simply can’t turn. And without the orion it doesn’t have that damage too.

The grey falcon is bit slower, has a bit less damage but much tankier. (that ship has the best balance between tank+speed+damage)

The falcon m has more damage + tank but far less speed.

So i still say, the Golden Eagle not worst just different. It is the speed+damage covops in T5. If you prefere the tank agains speed it is up to you. But this is just a personal preference. You always have to give up something when you select a ship. 

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Forget the em spread reduction  and try it with shrapnel. Just because a ship has a xxxx bonus on something you don’t have to use it.

The waki r with 540 spread simply can’t turn. And without the orion it doesn’t have that damage too.

The grey falcon is bit slower, has a bit less damage but much tankier. (that ship has the best balance between tank+speed+damage)

The falcon m has more damage + tank but far less speed.

So i still say, the Golden Eagle not worst just different. It is the speed+damage covops in T5. If you prefere the tank agains speed it is up to you. But this is just a personal preference. You always have to give up something when you select a ship. 

Why would I use a plasma bonused ship with any other weapon? it is xxxx, and you are just wasting its bonuses. Any other cov ops will perform better with sharpnel just because the bonuses to cov ops modules. Since now with invasion ammo you don’t need cpu to use sharpnel.

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But the implants, they even prevent gravi, right?

 

for a few seconds, really doesn’t matter with afterburner inhibitor, just re apply it

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Only for 3 seconds. With time and some skills, you will know when he used that implant, and wait for that to use the engine inhibitor.

 

The gravibeamer is a support weapon. You won’t do a lot of damage, but any adaptive ship that you grazes with that will be stripped of tank.

 

The usual actives for a combat tacklers are target painter, sentry drone,  repair, and afterburner inhibitor or engine inhibitor. While on squad you can sack the repair module and go full tackler modules.

 

The amount of rage and focus you get in SQ if you fly a proper support tackler is… noice!

Makes Sense… but wouldnt it work like dat: CovOps closes in, is hit by gravi and uses implant after a sec, lets say by then half shield is gone. Now CovOps move in for the kill in 3 sec with aspeed 550, should be enough to come in weapon range. Tackler throws in engine inhibitor and CovOps is slowed down, takes damage from grave. Now Shield is lost, Implant kicks in makes CovOps immune for 7 sec. CovOps now dogfights the tackler with full speed and takes it down with Orion, flees with AdapCamo.   

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Makes Sense… but wouldnt it work like dat: CovOps closes in, is hit by gravi and uses implant after a sec, lets say by then half shield is gone. Now CovOps move in for the kill in 3 sec with aspeed 550, should be enough to come in weapon range. Tackler throws in engine inhibitor and CovOps is slowed down, takes damage from grave. Now Shield is lost, Implant kicks in makes CovOps immune for 7 sec. CovOps now dogfights the tackler with full speed and takes it down with Orion, flees with AdapCamo.   

With a tackler you should be in second line, it is not a front line fighter. Those are gunships and commands. Tacklers must engage other interceptors that are attacking some other target.

 

In case the interceptor focuses you (and it will!!!) then it is time for retreat. A clever cov ops will try to use the plasma web to prevent you from cloaking. Wait till the plasma web dissapear or wait till the E 14 implant kicks in. Then cloak and leave.

 

Take some distance, wait for your modules to recharge, rinse and repeat.

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bad example because it is vs n00bs but same applys for good players. this video was before they shortened the active time of the implant too

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F-OeiAWxi8

Its harder in t5 because damage is higher in t5 so u need to make use of the cloak more in a fight (not to run away but to reposition behind an inty) 

 

 

works well solo in t3 and t4 or in a squad in t5/SQ. can also be done from a distance with a jeri tackler in a good position but its not as fun and you just end up camping one position all game

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Forget the em spread reduction and try it with shrapnel. Just because a ship has a xxxx bonus on something you don’t have to use it.

The waki r with 540 spread simply can’t turn. And without the orion it doesn’t have that damage too.

The grey falcon is bit slower, has a bit less damage but much tankier. (that ship has the best balance between tank+speed+damage)

The falcon m has more damage + tank but far less speed.

So i still say, the Golden Eagle not worst just different. It is the speed+damage covops in T5. If you prefere the tank agains speed it is up to you. But this is just a personal preference. You always have to give up something when you select a ship.

WakiR with 540 will have 200 rotation (if you are a gigs 2 fan, you get 515 speed)

How is grey falcon slower or have less dmg?

even falcon m with lightweight will have pretty much the same tanking, same speed but xxxx tons more dmg.

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WakiR with 540 will have 200 rotation (if you are a gigs 2 fan, you get 515 speed)

How is grey falcon slower or have less dmg?

even falcon m with lightweight will have pretty much the same tanking, same speed but xxxx tons more dmg.

Just one question: Have you ever tried it?

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Just one question: Have you ever tried it?

I did. I have flown all the tier 5 cov ops.

 

For me the GE is a niché ship for plasma weapons, pretty good with RF blasters and supernova.

 

But when things get serious and I want to kill stuff, the Falcon M is the best for the job. The Grey falcon can be better dogfighter, but for killing stuff… the Falcon M is king.

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Just one question: Have you ever tried it?

I never argue about stuff that I have no experience with.

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Or better post your awesome golden eagle build here (with implants, weapon, and ship stats) so we can all shut up in shame and bow to a master builder

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Or better post your awesome golden eagle build here (with implants, weapon, and ship stats) so we can all shut up in shame and bow to a master builder

Ohh :slight_smile: lets say No if you write like this. I let you live in your own dream world where you are the only expert in this game.

But really nice try for provoke me. You can always amuse me.

 

I never argue about stuff that I have no experience with.

But your experience is less relevant since you don’t play in the prime time.

I play over 2 years and I think I never met you. I just know you from the forum. And I think I’m not alone with this.

I still say the golden eagle is a really nice damage+speed ship, it is not good for everything and not easy to fly but it is definitely not the worst. I say something even better. There is no worst ship in the whole game. There is only ships what you can’t play well.

There is a lot of ships what I can’t play well but I know other pilots who can use them perfectly.

And to stay at the topic, the Interceptors Still not OP

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I never argue about stuff that I have no experience with.

Then please don’t argue, because you never tried Gizmo’s fit, consequently you have no experience with it. Thanks.

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Bye the way i still think the CovOps are kinda op and i wanted again to fly em myself, unluckily i only have the Wakisashi R wich is never mentioned so far. Can it be build good or is it just worse than others?

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Ohh :slight_smile: lets say No if you write like this. I let you live in your own dream world where you are the only expert in this game.

But really nice try for provoke me. You can always amuse me.

Don’t flatter yourself 

 

But your experience is less relevant since you don’t play in the prime time.

I play over 2 years and I think I never met you. I just know you from the forum. And I think I’m not alone with this.

You remind me of my friend - he has a life policy - “If I don’t remember - that did not happen”, in real world we call it ignorance.

 

I still say the golden eagle is a really nice damage+speed ship, it is not good for everything and not easy to fly but it is definitely not the worst.

You have yet to provide a single valid argument on how Golden Eagle is not worse than Gray or M falcons (especially considering we are not talking about Plasma Weapons here) or even Wakizashi R (At least with Waki case, Golden Eagle does have a 1x CPU advantage in damage, while waki having same mobility freedom and being much tankier)

 

I say something even better. There is no worst ship in the whole game. There is only ships what you can’t play well.

There is a lot of ships what I can’t play well but I know other pilots who can use them perfectly.

I can run 5km in industrial safety shoes, there for they are good running shoes, even though the guy next to me can’t do that.

 

And to stay at the topic, the Interceptors Still  no longer OP

 Fixed it for ya, you are welcome

 

Then please don’t argue, because you never tried Gizmo’s fit. Thanks.

And how do you know what I have and what I haven’t tried?

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And how do you know what I have and what I haven’t tried?

 

Well, you have 3 engine slots, every single slot can contain 7 different type of modifiers, 2 capacitor what can have 8 different modifiers, a shield slot which has 9 options, and 3 CPU, each slots could contain 8 different modifiers, if we don’t count the spartial scanner which would make no sense. And of course you have a rocket slot with 7 options and 4 active module slots, with 9 different modules. (Well, you can use 1 active module once, so the chance decreasing with every single choice.) And I didn’t count the implants and the type of the booster which can also change a lot. The only thing you know is he using shrapnel and some fragment infos from the stats. I have dyscalculia, so it’s your job to calculate the chance.

 

I really doubt you tried Gizmo’s fit without knowing it.

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I did. I have flown all the tier 5 cov ops.

 

For me the GE is a niché ship for plasma weapons, pretty good with RF blasters and supernova.

 

But when things get serious and I want to kill stuff, the Falcon M is the best for the job. The Grey falcon can be better dogfighter, but for killing stuff… the Falcon M is king.

 

Interesting… I’ll have a look at that buld evi :slight_smile: Will you post it?

 

Sometime I perform great matches with falcon M, sometime just horrible… Still got to understand if it’s me or the ping… :008j:

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And i would agree with you, unfortunately majority of those said combinations are plain useless builds. On top of that the build of a ship consist of different areas that correlate to different behaviours in the battle, and are not necessary mutually exclusive, which narrows down use cases even further.

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Interesting… I’ll have a look at that buld evi :slight_smile: Will you post it?

 

Sometime I perform great matches with falcon M, sometime just horrible… Still got to understand if it’s me or the ping… :008j:

 

 

I guess his build will be something like RFB with Supernova. 2-3 Verniers (I’d say 2 verniers with 1 Collision Compensator or Sharing Cooler). EB + Leaking Stabilizer. Adaptive shield, Electronic Guidanze, Proton Wall and maybe Infrared Scanner. Kinetic Rockets and Orion + White Noise/Camo + Shield Repair + Hull Repair.