Well i think it is oveall a nice touch… but the idea sounds a bit confused still…
If u want to help Ultra, give me one sector and promise me to keep out of it, and i will tell my leaders about it and i am pretty sure they will be happy to have one they can fight for with other weak Corps.
But for this pls give me one clear sector name, and a promise from Nasa to really keep outta it, otherwise this just doest sound pretty convincing and more like some political rambling.
Colonization Hub and Vanguard Outpost are up for grabs by all smaller corps and defenders/attackers can have up to two mentors from big corps. I never said I was going to give it to Ultra, rather it is instead offered as a way to teach ultra and co. dreadnought tactics.
Mods, can you get this imbecile out of here. He’s not contributing anything to this discussion.
You’re so certain in your smugness, that you think it is civilised to constantly insult posters you don’t agree with…
Or is there something more ? Something that you just don’t like about me, that you are to afraid to verbalise ?
YOU, are a brown nose, your nose is so far up certain asses, you can’t see what really happens, you are blinkered…
As to this sharing with small corps stuff… Corps, such as Nasa, WPK, ESB etc, will just walk all over any agreement if it suits them, because they have the players that can do it, no other reason.
Whilst it all seems good in theory, in practise you would need all the Corps to agree, and that’s just not going to happen, is it ?
Colonization Hub and Vanguard Outpost are up for grabs by all smaller corps and defenders/attackers can have up to two mentors from big corps. I never said I was going to give it to Ultra, rather it is instead offered as a way to teach ultra and co. dreadnought tactics.
Thats really nice and stuff, but i fear this will be not accepted.
Thats really nice and stuff, but i fear this will be not accepted.
Me, being the VP of BEAST talked this over with the acting CEO of Arkhos Core.
This agreement was created between us, and with hopes that NASA will also come to accept these friendly terms.
Mecron and Windswept, I think both of you could take a chill pill for a minute. I created this thread to have peaceful discussions about how to resolve the disputes, not to argue even more and bring in more personal vendettas into the mix. Both of you have made good points. I can understand why Windswept left, as I left for many of the same reasons (arrogance from some members and lazy leadership). Granted, from what I have seen in NASA in the last few weeks, the lazy leadership has been resolved for the most part.
As the thread creator, if I see any more slander, offensive remarks towards each other, or anything similar that isn’t contributing to these discussions, I will have an admin step in.
Back on topic.
Colonization Hub and Vanguard Outpost are up for grabs by all smaller corps and defenders/attackers can have up to two mentors from big corps. I never said I was going to give it to Ultra, rather it is instead offered as a way to teach ultra and co. dreadnought tactics.
I think that is a great idea.
Now, can we reach some form of consensus to end this nonsense and get back to the way things used to be? I haven’t heard anyone against making Colonization Hub and Vanguard Outpost small-corp battlegrounds, and I also like the idea of allowing 2 mentors from bigger corps.
From what Kazumi has said (and from what our VPs have said), Arch and BEAST are both in consensus.
Me, being the VP of BEAST talked this over with the acting CEO of Arkhos Core.
This agreement was created between us, and with hopes that NASA will also come to accept these friendly terms.
WhiteNoise came to our TS a few minutes ago and talked over the recent developments. Unfortunately, I was the only NA VP there (Everyone else on there is EU-based), however on a personal level I agreed that the terms presented here are reasonable. If we can finalize these terms and have it in writing on these forums, I will review it with my fellow VPs and we will come to a decision.
As it is right now, it looks like they are receptive to the idea.
Mecron and Windswept, I think both of you could take a chill pill for a minute. I created this thread to have peaceful discussions about how to resolve the disputes, not to argue even more and bring in more personal vendettas into the mix. Both of you have made good points. I can understand why Windswept left, as I left for many of the same reasons (arrogance from some members and lazy leadership). Granted, from what I have seen in NASA in the last few weeks, the lazy leadership has been resolved for the most part.
As the thread creator, if I see any more slander, offensive remarks towards each other, or anything similar that isn’t contributing to these discussions, I will have an admin step in.
-points finger- he started it! And please bring in an admin, actually. All he’s done in this thread is sh-tpost and troll.
And he’s not even an involved party in this matter - he’s just stirring things up.
like you are…
More than you 
-points finger- he started it! And please bring in an admin, actually. All he’s done in this thread is sh-tpost and troll.
It takes two to argue. Responding to his posts in an equal manner isn’t productive either.
But please, discuss with NASA leadership. And any other corps involved in this, please discuss with your leadership so we can end these pointless disputes.
But please, discuss with NASA leadership. And any other corps involved in this, please discuss with your leadership so we can end these pointless disputes.
I’ll most likely have an answer by tonight.
Me, being the VP of BEAST talked this over with the acting CEO of Arkhos Core.
This agreement was created between us, and with hopes that NASA will also come to accept these friendly terms.
Thats great, but i doubt Ultra will accept this and therefore i cant help u with Ultra, and if Ultra doesnt accept it i doubt FDEF does. Though u can always talk directly with Ultra/FDEF ledership.
Thats great, but i doubt Ultra will accept this and therefore i cant help u with Ultra, and if Ultra doesnt accept it i doubt FDEF does. Though u can always talk directly with Ultra/FDEF ledership.
They both were notified, infact Kratos (ULTRA CEO) tried to duel us in colonization but the server broke and denied us a game.
Still hoping for that training video (planned: ULTRA vs BEAST, 8v8(?)Dreadnought battle, Dread tactics in practice along with preview of the chaos)
Thats great, but i doubt Ultra will accept this and therefore i cant help u with Ultra, and if Ultra doesnt accept it i doubt FDEF does. Though u can always talk directly with Ultra/FDEF ledership.
Arch leadership (VPs) can go talk with them tonight. Quite frankly, I don’t know why they wouldn’t accept the terms. This will only benefit them, as we aren’t placing any restrictions on them, we’re only making it easier for them.
In the meantime, could we start working on a finalized draft of these terms that I can present to my fellow leaders? One that all of us can agree to. I believe WhiteNoise was notified to do so, but someone else can try to make it.
ooooh does this mean we have to stop gang bangin’ nasa?
ooooh does this mean we have to stop gang bangin’ nasa?
Such productive discussion!
How’s this for a semi-final draft:
- Colonization Hub and Vanguard Outpost will be made into small corp-only sectors, in which NASA and Arch are only allowed to send one or two mentors to each team to help them develop dreadnought tactics and improve their skills. If no battles occur, or no evidence is shown that attempts to have battles are being made, the sectors will open up for Arch and NASA to compete for.
- Zerg rushes against NASA/BEASTs will end, provided that the following occur:
a) No corps will go back on their word without valid reasoning (reasoning accepted as valid by several neutral parties).
b) Corp members do not send hateful PMs towards other corps that can be taken personally. If one corp’s member has an issue with another corp’s member, PM a member of the corp’s leadership and explain your issue with the pilot in question, PEACEFULLY.
c) Any hate towards another corp is only expressed within wing or corp chat. Do not spread rumors, slander, or lies about another corp in global chat or PMs.
(All of these will apply to all corps involved)
- All corps and pilots involved realize this is a game, and we all want to have fun, and to get games.
Also, Mecron, you never answered HiveStar as to what NASA’s ultimatum was. Before I finalize terms, it would be nice to know what said ultimatum is, in case it may affect the terms.
Arch leadership (VPs) can go talk with them tonight. Quite frankly, I don’t know why they wouldn’t accept the terms. This will only benefit them, as we aren’t placing any restrictions on them, we’re only making it easier for them.
Well if they accept it, nice. I think its a stupid idea since two good ArchCore pilots would dominate an Ultra team so much that u can actually forget about the Ultra team and just let the two players fly. But i wont talk against it and if u pull it off have fun.
Well if they accept it, nice. I think its a stupid idea since two good ArchCore pilots would dominate an Ultra team so much that u can actually forget about the Ultra team and just let the two players fly. But i wont talk against it and if u pull it off have fun.
If Ultra/FDEF wishes, we could change the terms so that only 1 mentor would be allowed per team. Any Ultra/FDEF leaders have any comments?
Oh, I missed that question - whoops. Here:
All of this lead us to this point, and here is what is the current situation is:
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The moment ANY sector in NA Federation space is pushed through for capture, NASA will be there, and we will try our best to bring our A game to that, numbers are irrelevant, if you cant beat us, you aren’t getting the sector.
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If that to be a NASA sector to fall, we will be there, and we will give it to OWLs, again, because they are cool, if you can’t beat us, you can’t get the sector.
Personally:
I agree with these terms except for 3. This is serious business. SRS BSNUS.
Sarcasm aside,
I really don’t care about the zerg rushes, as it gives games, but I doubt that the zergrushing will persist because if these terms are implemented, the small corps will fight in their allocated sectors because they’ll have a chance to win.
2c is going to be hard to control for all corps, however if any NASA member is caught out of line in global chat, send them my way. The issue here is a certain few people (we all know who) who love doing so. After all, it _is _the Internet.
As for the mentorship, I think only one per side should be allowed, now that I have seen Erik’s point. Two would start influencing the battle and shuts out an additional potential trainee. One pilot can’t carry a battle alone either.
Well if they accept it, nice. I think its a stupid idea since two good ArchCore pilots would dominate an Ultra team so much that u can actually forget about the Ultra team and just let the two players fly. But i wont talk against it and if u pull it off have fun.
I was told by the CEO of Arch that they will offer guidance in field, and will weakly provide support, attempting to shadow the players and correct them over TS/Comms.
They are not meant to solo carry a team to victory at will.