Second inter-corporate championship! (Discussion)

@CoalitionOfGears

In what “Units/time zone” have you had your Games scheduled (as what time you were told by organisers it would happen?)?

In that link you posted, it is in Moscow time.

https://forum.star-conflict.com/index.php?/topic/28256-second-inter-corporate-championship/#entry338986

 

right there, none of those hours fit

the only fitting one is 18.00 for moscow, UTC+4 fits nowhere, 2pm utc doesnt fit either

and that’s the only communication we’ve got from them

Well, nighters UTC nor Moscow have daylight time change so that couldn’t be the reason for wrong time, unless you were told wrong time from the start.

P.S. no offence, but if I were to be told schedule in the format Doombot posted, I would went out of my way to find out what it actually means, cause that message makes zero sense, I sure hope your team did not decide a match time just by following that.

16:16:58
Nikosar:ку

16:17:02
Charlie:\o

16:17:05
Nikosar:q

16:17:16
Suigintou:Чу за пороль?)

16:17:53
ImMyOwnMasterNow:корпорашка niji no ressha [Deft] приглашает в свое уютное, милое и няшное сообщество ^_^/

16:18:14
mzhelskii1987:чарли вступит после

16:18:25
Charlie:зачем? тут тоже весело

16:18:28
mzhelskii1987:ждем лезорда

16:18:31
Charlie:полтора часа не можем найти курди

16:18:31
Astraal:isn’t the tournament supposed to be in 40 minutes?

16:18:35
Charlie:играем без командира, збс

16:18:42
adelDRAN:шорли о/

16:18:58
CoalitionOfGears:whats going on?

16:19:02
CoalitionOfGears:it’s supposed to be in an hour

16:19:06
ZenChronos:yesterday i heard the tournament is starting at 17:00 german time

16:19:06
CoalitionOfGears:well, 40 mins

16:19:23
FifthRom:because we shifted the time

16:19:27
LezortII:go?

16:19:28
CoalitionOfGears:during the night?

16:19:30
FifthRom:in moscow they have the same time

16:19:31
ZenChronos:wtf…

16:19:32
OmegaFighter:Though it’s totally confusing

16:19:37
FifthRom:yeah it is

16:19:38
mzhelskii1987:hi)

16:19:45
ZenChronos:you should have pointed that out

16:19:47
OmegaFighter:We are getting slapped in the face because russian time doesnt change

16:19:53
FifthRom:lol sr

16:20:01
FifthRom:i changed time though

16:20:07
Charlie:и у нас командир ещё не нашел себя из-за ништяков с часовыми поясами

16:20:07
ZenChronos:now we are incomplete

16:20:08
FLYINGwarsheep:we miss a lot of WPK guys

16:20:10
Charlie:анлаки бойз

16:20:24
ZenChronos:especially kurdi

16:20:25
CoalitionOfGears:yeah, we were prepared for 1700 german time

16:20:25
ImMyOwnMasterNow:тут печалька

16:20:26
Listick:урон по союзникам офф

16:20:27
mzhelskii1987:урон по союзником нужен

16:20:28
CoalitionOfGears:thats in 40 mins

16:20:29
ImMyOwnMasterNow:ниту урона в союзников

16:20:30
ImMyOwnMasterNow:мм

16:20:30
Listick:включить надо

16:20:30
OmegaFighter:Our Commander isn’t here yet either because he didn’t know it

16:20:34
CoalitionOfGears:we dont even have our ceo online

16:20:42
Charlie:а, да, давайте пересоздам

16:20:47
mzhelskii1987:оке

16:22:22
Listick:респавн по божески себе забрали :с

16:23:32
Charlie:1 сек

16:23:35
Charlie:решают кто командир

16:23:39
Charlie:буквально пару секунд

16:23:42
mzhelskii1987:да

16:23:43
mzhelskii1987:ждем

16:23:47
Vorobei:Давайте я буду командовать вами c:

16:23:56
Nostrum:через чатик

16:23:57
ImMyOwnMasterNow:triche best captain

16:24:49
Charlie:окей

16:24:50
ImMyOwnMasterNow:мм

16:24:51
Charlie:вроде бы готовы

16:24:52
Charlie:вы?

16:24:54
ImMyOwnMasterNow:ни

16:24:54
adelDRAN:го

16:24:58
adelDRAN:а не

16:24:59
Vorobei:Сек

16:25:01
Charlie:капитан, запускать?

16:25:03
Charlie:а, ок

16:25:08
Suigintou:стоп

16:25:11
Charlie:ага

16:25:12
LezortII:ждем

16:25:18
LezortII:мжеля, го?

16:25:24
Nostrum:подождите

16:25:25
Listick:погоди

16:25:28
Suigintou:он ну

16:25:33
Suigintou:Вы понимаете

16:25:35
LezortII:вооружение проверьте))))

16:25:42
LezortII:така, ты особенно

16:25:43
mzhelskii1987:да

16:25:47
mzhelskii1987:меня забанить хочет

16:25:48
mzhelskii1987:инфрно

16:25:50
ImMyOwnMasterNow:тысячастоурона мм

16:25:50
mzhelskii1987:сейчас

16:25:51
OmegaFighter:what is this

16:25:55
mzhelskii1987:ак мой

16:25:57
Vorobei:Кстати да, надо сходить, посмотреть

16:26:00
mzhelskii1987:го

16:26:04
mzhelskii1987:если ваылечу то остановка

16:26:07
LezortII:выступай, все ок, ничего не будет)

16:26:10
FLYINGwarsheep:i dont understand^^

16:26:12
CoalitionOfGears:just to note, we have no idea what the hell is going on

16:26:19
ZenChronos:english please if it’s important

16:26:20
mzhelskii1987:го

16:26:20
Vorobei:Тут я

16:26:23
Listick:чирикалку перетащи

16:26:24
ImMyOwnMasterNow:niji no ressha [Deft] :slight_smile: /

16:26:25
mzhelskii1987:го

16:26:26
LezortII:го

16:26:27
Charlie:okaaay

16:26:28
LezortII:go

16:26:32
Charlie:everyones rdy?

16:26:32
ImMyOwnMasterNow:корпорашка niji no ressha [Deft] приглашает в свое уютное, милое и няшное сообщество ^_^/

16:29:09
Listick:бодрое чаттиковое стояние

16:29:11
Listick:няшнота

16:34:48
Nostrum:впк по маячкам пойдете?

16:34:54
Charlie:жа

16:20:01
FifthRom:i changed time though

Guess that makes sense now, doesn’t it?

"FifthRom:i changed time though

Guess that makes sense now, doesn’t it?"

Actually this does not tell absolutely anything, what time and where he changed, maybe he meant that he did change his time at home clock or something.

But mostly look at Charile’s post, he did NOT even try to explain your situation, he just yapped around that his team Lead is not around that is it, he did not mentioned once that your whole team is in confusion and expects the game to start in 1 hour. It did not even looked like Charily knew that rest of the team was confused about the time, and he acted like time was right.

16:16:58

Nikosar:[/size]ку

16:17:02

Charlie:[/size]\o

16:17:05

Nikosar:[/size]q

16:17:16

Suigintou:[/size]Чу за пороль?)

16:17:53

ImMyOwnMasterNow:[/size]корпорашка niji no ressha [Deft] приглашает в свое уютное, милое и няшное сообщество ^_^/

16:18:14

mzhelskii1987:[/size]чарли вступит после

16:18:25

Charlie:[/size]зачем? тут тоже весело

16:18:28

mzhelskii1987:[/size]ждем лезорда

16:18:31

Charlie:[/size]полтора часа не можем найти курди

16:18:31

Astraal:[/size]isn’t the tournament supposed to be in 40 minutes?

16:18:35

Charlie:[/size]играем без командира, збс

16:18:42

adelDRAN:[/size]шорли о/

16:18:58

CoalitionOfGears:[/size]whats going on?

16:19:02

CoalitionOfGears:[/size]it’s supposed to be in an hour

16:19:06

ZenChronos:[/size]yesterday i heard the tournament is starting at 17:00 german time

16:19:06

CoalitionOfGears:[/size]well, 40 mins

16:19:23

FifthRom:[/size]because we shifted the time

16:19:27

LezortII:[/size]go?

16:19:28

CoalitionOfGears:[/size]during the night?

16:19:30

FifthRom:[/size]in moscow they have the same time

16:19:31

ZenChronos:[/size]wtf…

16:19:32

OmegaFighter:[/size]Though it’s totally confusing

16:19:37

FifthRom:[/size]yeah it is

16:19:38

mzhelskii1987:[/size]hi)

16:19:45

ZenChronos:[/size]you should have pointed that out

16:19:47

OmegaFighter:[/size]We are getting slapped in the face because russian time doesnt change

16:19:53

FifthRom:[/size]lol sr

16:20:01

FifthRom:[/size]i changed time though

16:20:07

Charlie:[/size]и у нас командир ещё не нашел себя из-за ништяков с часовыми поясами

16:20:07

ZenChronos:[/size]now we are incomplete

16:20:08

FLYINGwarsheep:[/size]we miss a lot of WPK guys

16:20:10

Charlie:[/size]анлаки бойз

16:20:24

ZenChronos:[/size]especially kurdi

16:20:25

CoalitionOfGears:[/size]yeah, we were prepared for 1700 german time

16:20:25

ImMyOwnMasterNow:[/size]тут печалька

16:20:26

Listick:[/size]урон по союзникам офф

16:20:27

mzhelskii1987:[/size]урон по союзником нужен

16:20:28

CoalitionOfGears:[/size]thats in 40 mins

16:20:29

ImMyOwnMasterNow:[/size]ниту урона в союзников

16:20:30

ImMyOwnMasterNow:[/size]мм

16:20:30

Listick:[/size]включить надо

16:20:30

OmegaFighter:[/size]Our Commander isn’t here yet either because he didn’t know it

16:20:34

CoalitionOfGears:[/size]we dont even have our ceo online

16:20:42

Charlie:[/size]а, да, давайте пересоздам

16:20:47

mzhelskii1987:[/size]оке

16:22:22

Listick:[/size]респавн по божески себе забрали :с

16:23:32

Charlie:[/size]1 сек

16:23:35

Charlie:[/size]решают кто командир

16:23:39

Charlie:[/size]буквально пару секунд

16:23:42

mzhelskii1987:[/size]да

16:23:43

mzhelskii1987:[/size]ждем

16:23:47

Vorobei:[/size]Давайте я буду командовать вами c:

16:23:56

Nostrum:[/size]через чатик

16:23:57

ImMyOwnMasterNow:[/size]triche best captain

16:24:49

Charlie:[/size]окей

16:24:50

ImMyOwnMasterNow:[/size]мм

16:24:51

Charlie:[/size]вроде бы готовы

16:24:52

Charlie:[/size]вы?

16:24:54

ImMyOwnMasterNow:[/size]ни

16:24:54

adelDRAN:[/size]го

16:24:58

adelDRAN:[/size]а не

16:24:59

Vorobei:[/size]Сек

16:25:01

Charlie:[/size]капитан, запускать?

16:25:03

Charlie:[/size]а, ок

16:25:08

Suigintou:[/size]стоп

16:25:11

Charlie:[/size]ага

16:25:12

LezortII:[/size]ждем

16:25:18

LezortII:[/size]мжеля, го?

16:25:24

Nostrum:[/size]подождите

16:25:25

Listick:[/size]погоди

16:25:28

Suigintou:[/size]он ну

16:25:33

Suigintou:[/size]Вы понимаете

16:25:35

LezortII:[/size]вооружение проверьте))))

16:25:42

LezortII:[/size]така, ты особенно

16:25:43

mzhelskii1987:[/size]да

16:25:47

mzhelskii1987:[/size]меня забанить хочет

16:25:48

mzhelskii1987:[/size]инфрно

16:25:50

ImMyOwnMasterNow:[/size]тысячастоурона мм

16:25:50

mzhelskii1987:[/size]сейчас

16:25:51

OmegaFighter:[/size]what is this

16:25:55

mzhelskii1987:[/size]ак мой

16:25:57

Vorobei:[/size]Кстати да, надо сходить, посмотреть

16:26:00

mzhelskii1987:[/size]го

16:26:04

mzhelskii1987:[/size]если ваылечу то остановка

16:26:07

LezortII:[/size]выступай, все ок, ничего не будет)

16:26:10

FLYINGwarsheep:[/size]i dont understand^^

16:26:12

CoalitionOfGears:[/size]just to note, we have no idea what the hell is going on

16:26:19

ZenChronos:[/size]english please if it’s important

16:26:20

mzhelskii1987:[/size]го

16:26:20

Vorobei:[/size]Тут я

16:26:23

Listick:[/size]чирикалку перетащи

16:26:24

ImMyOwnMasterNow:[/size]niji no ressha [Deft] :slight_smile: /

16:26:25

mzhelskii1987:[/size]го

16:26:26

LezortII:[/size]го

16:26:27

Charlie:[/size]okaaay

16:26:28

LezortII:[/size]go

16:26:32

Charlie:[/size]everyones rdy?

16:26:32

ImMyOwnMasterNow:[/size]корпорашка niji no ressha [Deft] приглашает в свое уютное, милое и няшное сообщество ^_^/

16:29:09

Listick:[/size]бодрое чаттиковое стояние

16:29:11

Listick:[/size]няшнота

16:34:48

Nostrum:[/size]впк по маячкам пойдете?

16:34:54

Charlie:[/size]жа

16:20:01

FifthRom:[/size]i changed time though

Guess that makes sense now, doesn’t it?

They simply posted the wrong time here on the en Forum(2PM UTC(15:00 for you) is not 18:00MSK)

The key here is what time you (or whoever is responsible for your team coordination) were told the game will start, and in what time units it was presented.

The key here is what time you (or whoever is responsible for your team coordination) were told the game will start, and in what time units it was presented.

The key here that manager of WPK team, Omega, knew the exact time, and as far as i know, he told about it to the whole team… We especially discussed with him the sunday-time issue.

The key here that manager of WPK team, Omega, knew the exact time, and as far as i know, he told about it to the whole team… We especially discussed with him the sunday-time issue.

“ArcTic Omega, you had 1 job!”

P.S. Judging by the chat posted above, from lobby, Omega was just as confused about the time as rest of the team though.

Honestly, I did tell everybody. This yelling is totally pointless.

I’ve even put it into Motd yesterday. And it was totally obvious. Nobody can blame me here.

 

The key here that manager of WPK team, Omega, knew the exact time, and as far as i know, he told about it to the whole team… We especially discussed with him the sunday-time issue.

“ArcTic Omega, you had 1 job!”

 

It’s not his fault, this thing with time transition is pretty annoying for anyone. I also should just write it in Moscow time. Drawbacks of current tournament system, that’s why in November we are implementing ‘Arenas’.

…I also should just write it in Moscow time…

No. Write it in UTC+0. From there, everyone from anywhere across the world can add or subtract and get the right time. Because for example i had no idea that Moscow does NOT shift time at the end of October. Both from Omega’s listed hours and your posts i understood the time for the tournament as 1 hour later*.

UTC+0 is the only hour that should ever be used when communicating. Not Moscow, not PDT, not ECT, nothing of these that already alter UTC+0 from the start.

And btw, Moscow time now is UTC+3, not UTC+4 as mentioned in the post, because UTC+0 never changes, even with the daylight savings. Only countries change their time.

 

http://www.worldtimeserver.com/current_time_in_UTC.aspx

We also got really confused by the utc+3 thing last weekend.

BTW Doomb0t, please make sure that the new tournament system is a countdown and not a time. The urgent sector conquest time has been off by an hour for the last couple of months.

We also got really confused by the utc+3 thing last weekend.

But you did it in the right time.

 

 

No. Write it in UTC+0. From there, everyone from anywhere across the world can add or subtract and get the right time. Because for example i had no idea that Moscow does NOT shift time at the end of October. Both from Omega’s listed hours and your posts i understood the time for the tournament as 1 hour later*.

UTC+0 is the only hour that should ever be used when communicating. Not Moscow, not PDT, not ECT, nothing of these that already alter UTC+0 from the start.

And btw, Moscow time now is UTC+3, not UTC+4 as mentioned in the post, because UTC+0 never changes, even with the daylight savings. Only countries change their time.

 

http://www.worldtimeserver.com/current_time_in_UTC.aspx

Good point about UTC 0 (and about countries time and utc), agree. About conversation with Omega, we discussed with him the European time and the difference between EU (Omega from Germany) and MSK time (cause it was changed last night). 

 

BTW Doomb0t, please make sure that the new tournament system is a countdown and not a time. The urgent sector conquest time has been off by an hour for the last couple of months.

New tournament system will be without these disadvantages, it will be comfortable for all players from all over the world. It will be automatic, like leagues system in some other games.

New tournament system will be without these disadvantages, it will be comfortable for all players from all over the world. It will be automatic, like leagues system in some other games.

The point is that if it has a time in a title of when the next cycle starts, it is very possible it will be screwed up if it is not a countdown type of a timer.

Dreadnought cycles have a time stamp in the window, and for A LOT of players that time stamp is OFF by 1 hour, it was reported on Dread release, and was attempted to be fixed but never got fixed. Majority of guys from my corporation (well, that is before they left the game) have it by 1 hour off.

Doombot, the most annoying part about it all was that we were completely ignored right before that match. Just some random stuff in Russian, no info, no response as to what we should do. And besides that - no official announcements in English, no consistency in tournament times (with or without shifts), and all that between trying to decipher what little was said in the meantime. Most of what we knew about the tournament, we knew either from Omega who contacted you and Lezort through private channels or from our friends in ESB who were kind enough to point us to some more important posts on the Russian forum.

 

Just see for yourself what has been officially said about this tournament on the English forum and try to figure it all out, or at least please compare the amount of official information on either of the forums.

 

Plus, if you guys actually expected this time change thing to be that annoying, I don’t see why you didn’t just postpone the last stage of the tournament for sometime next week. Seriously.

I don’t see why you didn’t just postpone the last stage of the tournament for sometime next week. Seriously.

That actually has it’s reasons. There was not really enough time to move it even further.

 

But you are right, could’ve been better at some point. But tournament is over, and this situation can not really happen that way again.

 

But you did it in the right time.

 

 

Oh yeah, but we needed something like one hour of brainstorming to get what time it would be (i have to admit that not the brightest minds of the century were involved). We did that one week before the tournaments actually starts, probably with only one day to figured that out that, we would had problems too.

 

Utc +0 is much more convenient for everyone. Btw if next time tournaments will be an “automatic feature” that would solve a lot of misunderstandings. But still…

Guess i wasn’t the only one to have issues with the time? XD

 

why don’t the russians get a taste of what we have? I suggest that all servers be switched to USA-EU-SA for one week, create a tournament and use vague russian and not use the correct names for mods and then make it so we use USA time right before daylights savings time and blame them for not showing up? Watch the russian playerbase decline.

 

I’ve already gotten over the no show vs FDEF and i appreciate doombot working things out with me and my members, but honestly, this tournament is a mess for non russian players. 

 

Also, use a countdown timer plz. This timezone crap is confusing as hell. 

 

And while millanbel has brought up sec con, yes it’s the wrong time so plz use countdown timers. (if you want i can give you the code lol) And change the time back to 10pm eastern time plz. it’s midnight eastern time which is complete bull. Seriously, on weekdays, who plays at midnight if they have a job? 

 

Countdown timers

 

Countdown Timers

 

And more countdown timers!