I too play for fun, I just have another idea of “fun”: Dealing with people at my level.
T3 is mostly made by newbee, stop pretending that lower tiers doesn’t works like that.
Strange that, as alot of people I faced in T3 were at my level, I guess I am just not as pro as you 
so big games, almost no queue! insta games!
If ppl left T3 farm, surprise surprise, T5 would be like that.
Shut uuuup you are here saying those things just to troll.
not trollin.
T5 games are great, especially with 1 ship players(mostly it’s premium) in CTB and most games in T5 are smaller than 6v6.
It’s really amazing to play 2v3 or 1v3 when u get 2 of those 1 prem players on your side and proper 3x 4ships on other AND ALL THAT after AT LEAST 5min in queue.
Only hard/balanced games in T5 I got when I went to que with minimum 5 other pilots at the same time… but those were pilots which I was in TS with or organized each other in different way(aka you have to drag ppl to que with you at the same time to get decent game)
Strange that, as alot of people I faced in T3 were at my level, I guess I am just not as pro as you
Probably :P
Apart jockes, i know well how works being “pro” in t3: kill all the Aces, avoid better players. It works astonishing well 90% of the time. In t5 you can’t play like that (unless you are one of the 3 or 4 real pro out there)… this is the reason why vets don’t like t5.
Really? I find it more productive to chase the better players, it increases your chances of winning quite a lot 
But then again, most matches are about chasing beacons…
not trollin.
T5 games are great, especially with 1 ship players(mostly it’s premium) in CTB and most games in T5 are smaller than 6v6.
It’s really amazing to play 2v3 or 1v3 when u get 2 of those 1 prem players on your side and proper 3x 4ships on other AND ALL THAT after AT LEAST 5min in queue.
Only hard/balanced games in T5 I got when I went to que with minimum 5 other pilots at the same time… but those were pilots which I was in TS with or organized each other in different way(aka you have to drag ppl to que with you at the same time to get decent game)
Doesn’t works like that Tillo. Ask catbox or rennie, cr0 or Omega and others that plays only t5 if you don’t want to believe me.
You do have a point about unskilled “uncarriable” Aces and guys with only one ship in ctb. About the Aces the thing can be solved with bigger population. The Second one: ask devs to fix that!
Really? I find it more productive to chase the better players, it increases your chances of winning quite a lot
But then again, most matches are about chasing beacons…
Fits a killer ship like a cov ops, a gunship or a tackler, specialize yourself in killing low skill players as fast as you can so the opposite vets have to deal with more people for objectives: profit.
Well I guess you play T3 differently to me.
But then again, as you said in previous post all these problems could be solved with a bigger population. Then you would not need this silly uptiering and could have a skilled based MM, per tier.
Shut uuuup you are here saying those things just to troll.
I too play for fun, I just have another idea of “fun”: Dealing with people at my level.
T3 is mostly made by newbee, stop pretending that lower tiers doesn’t works like that.
About pushing veterans with r12 or premiums in t5 i would love to see that happens. C’ause atm the only guys enjoin that: are t4 vets seal clubbing t3 population.
If you have no will to play in end game content, why even playing the game at all? Seriously what’s your point?
Are you seriously stating that all your games in t3 you have some vets on the other squads that make game harder for you 'cause he chase your ships all the time? Or maybe (and here is the problem) 99% of the time he made the game harder for you 'cause he kills over and over newbees in your squad like you do with him?
There’s a huge difference you know, and actually 90% of games in t3 was going like that.
No one likes to be constantly killed by a guy with full equip while you are just trying to level your ships and still trying to understand how this game works. Since now you where on the “full equip” side, now you are not. Deal with it.
And if you don’t like t5 end game content meta (even if you should play t5 to say that, and so far i never saw you there) let me say it again: why you are still playing after 6000 games?
I’m rude? maybe. The mm as it is now should be tuned again? Off course. Still I don’t see why sealclubbing newb all the time should be allowed since it’s mostly what let people leave this game.
Rude indeed but what bother me is the ignorance, You seen too asume that T5 is the summum of this game. Well its not , as i said previous, I find it unbalanced and slow paced.
I know you feel you have wasted your life leveling up those T5 ships but deal with it, most players dislike T5 for a lot of reasons. You want more buddies to fight against in T5. Then make i first a tier worth flying, dont push people in it.
If you make T4 and T5 fun tiers to fly there would be NO need to push people to higher tiers, the problem would solve itself.
You dont want to get sealclubbed in T3? Learn how to activate you modules, learn how to time you missels, stop flying in a straight line. This IS T1 and T2 stuff, if you havent learned it by the time you reach T3, then stay in T3 or know you dont have talent for this game and leave.
You know what, I’m starting to think this change was a sneaky way to test to see if these forums can handle an increased post-count per day
About pushing veterans with r12 or premiums in t5 i would love to see that happens. C’ause atm the only guys enjoin that: are t4 vets seal clubbing t3 population.
Maxed out R11 would be more fun because you can easiloy go wiht only r11 ships into t4.
And this is why i prefer ot fly T4 there are not that much Aces
fck** auto anti N00bs thingy
Rude indeed but what bother me is the ignorance, You seen too asume that T5 is the summum of this game. Well its not , as i said previous, I find it unbalanced and slow paced.
I know you feel you have wasted your life leveling up those T5 ships but deal with it, most players dislike T5 for a lot of reasons. You want more buddies to fight against in T5. Then make i first a tier worth flying, dont push people in it.
If you make T4 and T5 fun tiers to fly there would be NO need to push people to higher tiers, the problem would solve itself.
You dont want to get sealclubbed in T3? Learn how to activate you modules, learn how to time you missels, stop flying in a straight line. This IS T1 and T2 stuff, if you havent learned it by the time you reach T3, then stay in T3 or know you dont have talent for this game and leave.
I didn’t wasted my time, I improved my skills facing full purple ships above my rank. That was one of the funny part for me, the other one was squadding up with friends and start to understand how to become better all together against the best squads out there.
And when there’s enough good pilots in t5 i enjoy play against them.
T5 is fun, you can’t carry the whole team most of the times even if you are Aggressor. That’s the problem right? No easy win no fun!
Maxed out R11 would be more fun because you can easiloy go wiht only r11 ships into t4.
And this is why i prefer ot fly T4 there are not that much Aces
fck** auto anti N00bs thingy
With the same method they applied with elo envolved it would be easy to push vets with t4 ships in t5. Why they didn’t do it: it’s a mistery.
That’s the problem right? No easy win no fun!
No, that isn’t the problem. Don’t be so ignorant.
I didn’t wasted my time, I improved my skills facing full purple ships above my rank. That was one of the funny part for me, the other one was squadding up with friends and start to understand how to become better all together against the best squads out there.
And when there’s enough good pilots in t5 i enjoy play against them.
T5 is fun, you can’t carry the whole team most of the times even if you are Aggressor. That’s the problem right? No easy win no fun!
No thats not the problem, I dont mind losing, I dont mind ending last, I do mind getting shot just because the other guy has a ship twice as good as me. I want equal weapons, not a handicap. How do you think n00bs are going to reach T4 if they have to get trough the mixed Tier3-4. I ll tell you, they wont, they ll just quit.
No thats not the problem, I dont mind losing, I dont mind ending last, I do mind getting shot just because the other guy has a ship twice as good as me. I want equal weapons, not a handicap. How do you think n00bs are going to reach T4 if they have to get trough the mixed Tier3-4. I ll tell you, they wont, they ll just quit.
Then move the vets with t4 ships to t5 with the same mechanism related to elo rating. And let them stay in t4 if they are in t3 ships. Problem solved.
Then move the vets from t4 to t5 with the same mechanism related to elo rating. Problem solved.
I agree there, that is an option or they could fix the tier system and just make it easier and more enjoyable to play T4 and T5 
hey guys
new match maker is super balanced
like, look
Three good players
One on team one
Three on team two
That’s how you balance in Star Conflict.
I think a lot of us on both sides of the issue are missing a huge point here. Never mind who thinks playing T3 in a squad is farming, never mind who thinks that it is unfair for so many people to be forced out of T3.
The point I feel like we are all missing is this: So many vets played T3 with squads because they knew they could get games, as T3 was the most populated tier, it had the most squads (of all skill levels), and it was most enjoyable for everyone, not to mention more balanced in terms of implants.
Regarding vets and good gear at high tiers: Not all vets have all purple T4 gear, as most vets skipped over it when T4/5 were merged. I am one of those players. I never played T4, I just bought the ships, maxed them with free synergy from my T3’s, and moved on to T5s. Currently, I have all purple gear on my T3s and my T5s, so I have no issue with gear in T5, but I have a huge problem with it in T4. Not only that, but the T4 reward system makes it EXTREMELY hard to level gear and make money. The rewards from a T4 game are very close to the rewards of a T3 game, but yet, the costs for leveling are far closer to T5. So players also took that into consideration when they decided to skip T4.
This brings me to my next point, gear. The jumps between marks in gear is too great. If you cloned yourself, and had your clone play with all purple gear, and you play with all white gear, you will lose, no questions asked. While I agree that mk4 gear needs to be better than mk1, it doesn’t need to be better to the point that it will guarantee your ship will trump someone else’s almost regardless of skill level. Mk1 gear should still be able to compete with mk4 gear.
Erador just brought up an extremely important point. New players with good stats aren’t going to want to play T3 with mixed tiers.
Anyways, the point is that there should be a change that makes vets WANT to play T4 and 5, instead of forcing them.
hey guys
new match maker is super balanced
like, look
Three good players
One on team one
Three on team two
That’s how you balance in Star Conflict.
sorry, m8
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