I hope that Error just sees the MAIN points on whats wrong and reports accordingly to get this fixed and reversed.
Grinding = Bad
Wait times = Bad
Mix Tiers = Bad
Campers = Bad
Idiots = Bad
So far everything else is GREAT, i mean the actual balance is good, the weapons are good. Just some minor tweaks and we be back on track to making this game great.
I hope that Error just sees
Error isn’t a dev though. I prefer the devs see it 
Error isn’t a dev though. I prefer the devs see it
I prefer the CEO to see it :3
I prefer the CEO to see it :3
and after he saw it he checks the bank account and laughs at us few people who rant against that BS-decisions… :-/
Exceptionally bad news folks. Another dev just posted in the russian thread about the patch.
http://forum.star-conflict.ru/index.php?/topic/33982-star-conflict-obt-v0712/?p=715058
I’ll translate what he said (emphasis mine):
Balancer is being constantly improved, and in entirety is working well.
I’ll try to get description of matchmaking mechanics to be published in developer’s blog. Maybe even with pictures
If a fight feels like it’s exceptionally suspicious and unfair, you need, in addition to screenshot, to find a log of that fight, preferably without other fights and post it as a bug. People responsible will try to figure it out.
This is fully in line with the line that several mods and CBT testers were pushing in that thread: that matchmaker works well and most people are happy with it, and that people that are unhappy with it are either running into “bugs” or are whiners and shouldn’t talk. People who posted pics got told that their T2 vs T4 fights were appropriate for a [vast number of excuses] and that T2 vs T3/T3 vs T4 is so even, you shouldn’t even complain.
I guess people interested in having game that only works for top testers and sucks for everyone else are pretty high in the company. Make your own conclusions.
Considering that the thread is choke full of people complaining, and is one of the longest if not the single longest patch thread on the forums, yeah. I guess they just don’t care.
and after he saw it he checks the bank account and laughs at us few people who rant against that BS-decisions… :-/
Tell that to the CEO of CCP.
notes taken … apparently the english forums are just there … and noone gives a dam
but no matter , just another fail game and since gaijin do not care , we should bring it to someone that does (steam or TB to make an update of his review) and make sure we stop getting stuff from these russians.
not everything is bad. Is i mentioned earlier. Warthunder is actually fairly good. Same company thou, gajin, but different dev team that seems to get things right.
However, this is the trend of Russo-games, any playerbase outside Russia is completely ignored.
Exceptionally bad news folks. Another dev just posted in the russian thread about the patch.
http://forum.star-conflict.ru/index.php?/topic/33982-star-conflict-obt-v0712/?p=715058
I’ll translate what he said (emphasis mine):
This is fully in line with the line that several mods and CBT testers were pushing in that thread: that matchmaker works well and most people are happy with it, and that people that are unhappy with it are either running into “bugs” or are whiners and shouldn’t talk. People who posted pics got told that their T2 vs T4 fights were appropriate for a [vast number of excuses] and that T2 vs T3/T3 vs T4 is so even, you shouldn’t even complain.
Devs need to stop listening to feedback from their little circle of friends/testers and start listening to the community as a whole.
As I’ve said before, my corp has suffered about a 90% activity drop in the last few patches. First it was the loyalty patch that basically killed their ambition to play seriously and now with the match-making it’s “why bother?” If 50-some odd people in 1 corporation feel that way - and I know these numbers have been reflected in other corps (I’ve talked to people about it) how is it that this change is generally well-received and these dying corporations are just someone’s outliers?
And for the record, these people aren’t just F2P newbies expecting a free ride, many of them had picked up steam DLC packs or added game-time to their accounts - they’re quite familiar with the F2P (P2W) model and are just completely dissatisfied with the direction this game is going, they don’t don’t even want to continue investing time into a game they know they’re going to quit based on the direction of the company.
Some people just hear what they want to hear, in this case it’s changes that are obviously being designed to force people into Premium gametime (which I’m all for) and into gold ships (which I’m not for) - and they’re cherry picking positive feedback to reassure themselves they’ve made the right decisions.
This game isn’t and will never be a proper MMO - it’s not Everquest in space. Nobody wants to grind for 20,000 hours to get ahead. The appeal of this game was; casual appeal, good game mechanics, low barrier to entry; and a seemingly fair pay model. At this point I think all of those positive attributes have been ruined.
tl;dr
Stop listening to people who reaffirm your beliefs, start looking at the community as a whole. Also stop wrecking the good thing that was your game.
Guys, try out a couple of games, the matchmaking is working really well for me now. with tier 2 im getting to fight mostly tier 2
Holy xxxx… I think I like the patch o_O
Still getting matched with Tiers higher than mine. I don’t get how you screw this up. A level playing field is the foundation of competition, if they don’t understand that, I don’t know how you can make it any simpler. That they actually even thought mixing Tiers was a good idea in the first place is not a good sign.
Guys, never forget that the game is still a beta version. Things are getting tested, some of them are good ideas, some of them are bad ideas (like some items in the last updates) but hell, that’s how you make a good game: you try new stuff, and remove it later if it reveals not being a good idea.
Guys, never forget that the game is still a beta version. Things are getting tested, some of them are good ideas, some of them are bad ideas (like some items in the last updates) but hell, that’s how you make a good game: you try new stuff, and remove it later if it reveals not being a good idea.
keep living in your tiny " beta" world lol =)
Guys, try out a couple of games, the matchmaking is working really well for me now. with tier 2 im getting to fight mostly tier 2
Holy xxxx… I think I like the patch o_O
It depends from person to person. My friends gets a similar MM that you have. However, I have impossible MM where im constnatly thrown into high tiers. Mainly due to early on in the game I’ve been lucky aswell as having very high stats (Wich is dropping down quite quickly now). Not to sound like some little kid bragging, but I usually always ended up in the top 3 list most of the battles i participated in. My friend was never as good, so he never got to build up a high rating, however, in this patch, it seems to pay off for him, as he can at least get some normal battles going.
Yup, playing with very high stats I got constant T4 players in Enemy team, so much fun… jk
Even if they are xxxx, they still got the advantage of MUCH SUPERIOR modules and ships.
Not sure what stats it is based on but I got the highest average efficiency in the whole game so :l
Not like my other stats are that bad either.
This is adaptive skill rating based matchmaker now. It may be wrong at start, but getting better and better in development. Just play more and you will be matched more adequately to your skill and tech.
I were a bit disapointed in MM early on as well, because I never met any lower tiers - only my tier and from a one tier higher. But looking overall these players from higher tier that are matched against lower tier are usualy not that good. And in fact most of the time they dont take the top places in eff. rating. Also as far as i played I never saw a game where difference between tiers were more than a single tier. Another things is that right now you can’t just get ship in T2 or T3 geared with all blues and be strongest ship in match. This might be a reason, so players continue progressing to higher tiers.
It depends from person to person. My friends gets a similar MM that you have. However, I have impossible MM where im constnatly thrown into high tiers. Mainly due to early on in the game I’ve been lucky aswell as having very high stats (Wich is dropping down quite quickly now). Not to sound like some little kid bragging, but I usually always ended up in the top 3 list most of the battles i participated in. My friend was never as good, so he never got to build up a high rating, however, in this patch, it seems to pay off for him, as he can at least get some normal battles going.
Now im curious what is your stat? 
Mine is 2.0 win rating, 1350+ destroyed ship rating, from what ive seen that is pretty good compared to most. I also got mostly in top 3, if not always. So I find it hard to believe you have a very different experience, try fighting a few more battles and let me know how it ended up.
Error isn’t a dev though. I prefer the devs see it
are there any dev here? even lurking?
Took me 10 minutes to have a match yesterday, Had to wait a hell of a long time, Then out of nowhere I had connection issues. So I guess I have to wait until this Thursday for the next patch, Cause now I cant even get on.
BTW, it really sucks for high level players too, They dont want to farm newbs, but the game mechanic throws my T3 ship against a T2, Im gonna kill the basterd. Not because of skill, just because of the sheer fire power and speed advantage I have.