Ion Emitter/Stasis Web

These are just too strong at the moment.

 

With the majority of ship classes there is almost nothing you can do to counter them. They disable you and any normal ship flying with them shreds you in seconds. I would have less of a problem with them if they were a dumb fire weapon (requiring you to aim) or did not disable your modules. In their present state they are a bit of an iWin button.

 

Basically I don’t like game mechanics that no amount of skill can save you from them.

 

Edit: Second module in title should read Stasis generator

A small amount of skill and common sense can however help you avoid being in those situations in the first place.

 

Prevention > Cure

Sure good positioning helps but these modules are quipped on the fastest ships in the game; they will almost always be able to isolate you or crush you when you over extend even slightly.

If when you over extend even slightly.

Keep distance to ECM if you want to avoid its effect, they are slowest inties.Proton wall module decreases disable time.

Keep distance to ECM if you want to avoid its effect, they are slowest inties.

They are not, they have the same speed as other interceptors of a nation. But of course speeds between nations differ, with imperial interceptors being the slowest by far.

And ECM on their own are more of a nuisance than a problem. It’s only when ECM disables you and their team hits you while your team isn’t there to defend you that you go down. But that’s the definition of having over-extended.

Sure good positioning helps but these modules are quipped on the fastest ships in the game; they will almost always be able to isolate you or crush you when you over extend even slightly.

CovOps and Recon are the fasted, due to those two being on the Fed lines.  ECM’s aren’t the fastest.

 

Odds are when you got shredded in “seconds” it’s because you’re being triple or quadruple teamed, and your basically dead already.  The ECM just helps the triple team go do something else.  Look at your death recaps and you’ll see it’s true.  Now, what did you do to get a third of the enemy team targeted onto you?

Sure good positioning helps but these modules are quipped on the fastest ships in the game; they will almost always be able to isolate you or crush you when you over extend even slightly.

 

Then try not to rush forward alone. Buddy up with an ally before you dash into the fray.

 

Alternatively, put on some proton walls (or the R2 Jericho implant). Also helps reduce the duration of other irritating effects like spy drones, WNJ. 

The web from a cov ops is far more of a problem with the latest patch than the modules you describe. For those, you have implants/cpu mods to counter the effects to the point that it really doesn’t do that much to you.

 

The damage from the web however, is hard to counter on a lot of classes, interceptors especially. And with the nerfs to survivability (unless you fly a really, really slow and energy starved interceptor…) it is now easier than every to take out interceptors at your leisure.

‘Stasis Generator’      A.K.A.      ‘Astraal’s Bane’

 

GOD I HATE THAT MODULE!!!rage!@!!trollsmapspamrage!

About 75-80% of my deaths are because of it… and people PM me back for being a coward when they need that to actually make a kill… really?

REMOVE IT!!!RAWR!!

‘Stasis Generator’      A.K.A.      ‘Astraal’s Bane’

 

GOD I HATE THAT MODULE!!!rage!@!!trollsmapspamrage!

About 75-80% of my deaths are because of it… and people PM me back for being a coward when they need that to actually make a kill… really?

REMOVE IT!!!RAWR!!

 

JP is immune to stasis…

I always feel like the N64 version of Star Wolf whenever I activate Stasis Generator and Ion Emitter. The debuff times allow for a large margin of error to occur for both teams with the the current debuff time lengths. If no one responds to a shut down target, the target usually gets away whooping like a Zoidberg. If the team is working with each other, well, heh… I like the debuff times at present; I feel like every debuff activation is critical to victory, and every time I get locked down I’m grateful for having Proton Wall on almost all my ships.

JP is immune to stasis…

I can vouch for the half-veracity of this statement.

 

‘Stasis Generator’      A.K.A.      ‘Astraal’s Bane’

 

GOD I HATE THAT MODULE!!!rage!@!!trollsmapspamrage!

About 75-80% of my deaths are because of it… and people PM me back for being a coward when they need that to actually make a kill… really?

REMOVE IT!!!RAWR!!

Either Stasis or Ion Emitter need to disappear. One of them definitely has to go.

oryngton stop hating on ECM, nothing is wrong with them >:(

I’m okay with sacrificing Stasis on the altar of Balance

And what would we get back? ECM would become practicly useless.

 

Recon has spy drones(90 secs + 50% reduced healing)+AoE vision beacon(120 secs)+Shield Leech(10kshield), 5 sec cloak, MWD

CO has plasma arc(6k damage), WNJ(18 secs), plasma web(2k damage), self destruct(5k+ damage) ion targeting system(+144% damage for 5 secs) adaptive camo(20 secs)

 

ECM would have

Ion Emitter(6.5 sec) , energy leech(300 energy/s), metastable generator,

 

Yeah, that would totally be balanced!

oryngton stop hating on ECM, nothing is wrong with them >:(

My hate on ECM comes from me flying them. I KNOW they’re OP, but nerfing their modules or survivability isn’t the way to go with them. They need an overhaul. Especially because, as they are now, they are NOT ECM.

And what would we get back? ECM would become practicly useless.

 

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I’m okay with sacrificing Stasis on the altar of Balance

And what would we get back? ECM would become practicly useless.

How so? I recently started played ECM (along with Jericho LRF, basically all the easy-mode ships) in my quest to become a terrible player. I don’t even fit stasis, I think the module is overvalued. Those players that you might need it against will have fit and implanted accordingly and the rest die easily anyway. The single advantage of stasis is to pull a recon out of MWD mid-flight, but that’s not worth an active slot…

Stasis is very handy, it makes killing everything a lot easier. Do I need it to kill inties? Not often, but it definitely makes it a ton easier.