5 minutes ago, millanbel said:
Thar’ga and tai’kin have definitely not been overnerfed. They are still better than their “old” faction counter-parts.
In what regards?
10 minutes ago, xKostyan said:
In what regards?
Speed, maneouvrability, regen tank instead of buffer (faster back into combat), damage output, “escapability” (blink jumping, emergency shields etc), very useful special passive modules, special weapons which don’t miss… Pretty much in every regards to be honest. This is especially evident in smaller games which are unfortunately very common. In larger games they struggle more because too much dps can get past their regen.
1 hour ago, millanbel said:
Speed, maneouvrability, regen tank instead of buffer (faster back into combat), damage output, “escapability” (blink jumping, emergency shields etc), very useful special passive modules, special weapons which don’t miss… Pretty much in every regards to be honest. This is especially evident in smaller games which are unfortunately very common. In larger games they struggle more because too much dps can get past their regen.
you make it sound so easy, wanna show us some builds that would incorporate at least half of these things and outperform Empire-Feds in their respective niches?
I don’t care about Open Space rework, i never play this mode or any other mode (execpt PvP). The best mode of this game is the PvP, this is the sector you need concentrate your efforts, PvP and balance. The only problem are the destroyers, they are too powerful, is boring and exhaustive fight against them (principally against static shield and heavy repair drones), i just prefer ignore them, ok 3x more damage in 1000m it’s good but for a lot of ships in game, it’s very difficult reach so close to destroyer, impractival.
I suggest turn down destroyers survivability (something like 3x, don’t worry destroyers fanboys they still tank like a guard frigate) and set a maximum number of static shield and heavy repair drone can be used in a battle (3 per cartridge it’s a good number). Or just separate them of the normal players (something like destroyers vs destroyers, i already suggest this before).
It’s not because you don’t like a game mode that everyone think the same way… and after all this time i’ve never thought there will be someone that still can’t take out a dessy… you know if you rush at him in a straight line you’ll die
18 hours ago, aldermatias said:
I don’t care about Open Space rework, i never play this mode or any other mode (execpt PvP). The best mode of this game is the PvP, this is the sector you need concentrate your efforts, PvP and balance. The only problem are the destroyers, they are too powerful, is boring and exhaustive fight against them (principally against static shield and heavy repair drones), i just prefer ignore them, ok 3x more damage in 1000m it’s good but for a lot of ships in game, it’s very difficult reach so close to destroyer, impractival.
I suggest turn down destroyers survivability (something like 3x, don’t worry destroyers fanboys they still tank like a guard frigate) and set a maximum number of static shield and heavy repair drone can be used in a battle (3 per cartridge it’s a good number). Or just separate them of the normal players (something like destroyers vs destroyers, i already suggest this before).
You do realise this game is based on rock-paper-scissors concept? So every ship has a counter, usually in different ship class. So if you want to kill a destroyer - you are taking something with high agility, to kill a frig - dessie or gunship, to kill an intie - tackler etc. In SCL yesterday we had a situation when enemy took 3 destroyers at the beginning, so we came out with 1 interceptor, tackler (painter!), 1 engie, gunship and a destroyer (debuffs + support fire) all enemy destroyers were down under a minute. We had another battle, when our team was already tired and we made a mistake deploying 2 inties and a tackler vs 2 tacklers and 2 ecms. Well, 3 quick points to enemy gave us a waking call. From what you are describing - you were flying with a frigate against a destroyer - which usually ends up very bad for the frig…
Someone share a video here killing destroyers (easily) compilation like certain people says. Ohh nothing…?!
4 minutes ago, aldermatias said:
Someone share a video here killing destroyers (easily) like certain people says. Ohh nothing…?!
Dude destroyers are countered by a lot of things. A recon can be hell for destroyers to battle, any fast ship can take on a dessie and a group of ships can take out a dessie easy .
29 minutes ago, ComradeJedus said:
Dude destroyers are countered by a lot of things. A recon can be hell for destroyers to battle, any fast ship can take on a dessie and a group of ships can take out a dessie easy .
…talking is easy but actions is not so easy huh…
50 minutes ago, aldermatias said:
…talking is easy but actions is not so easy huh…
What’s your ign? Next time I see you in a dessy I’ll whoop yer a$$ in my nightingale and you won’t know what hit you.
5 hours ago, TheDarkRedFox said:
What’s your ign? Next time I see you in a dessy I’ll whoop yer a$$ in my nightingale and you won’t know what hit you.
Nice try furry boy. I don’t have destroyers,
11 minutes ago, aldermatias said:
Nice try furry boy. I don’t have destroyers,
Then why comment on the subject. It is simply a meaningless attack on a person you don’t know.
2 hours ago, TheDarkRedFox said:
Then why comment on the subject. It is simply a meaningless attack on a person you don’t know.
No. C’mon guys i don’t wanna remove destroyers like this:
I wanna this:
Destroyer fanboys get inflamed every time i say “nerf” and “destroyer” in the same phrase -__-
I remember the time before destroyers… …good old days…
Not need remove them but your survivability is too much!
“Make Star Conflict great again!”
13 hours ago, niripas said:
You do realise this game is based on rock-paper-scissors concept? So every ship has a counter, usually in different ship class. So if you want to kill a destroyer - you are taking something with high agility, to kill a frig - dessie or gunship, to kill an intie - tackler etc. In SCL yesterday we had a situation when enemy took 3 destroyers at the beginning, so we came out with 1 interceptor, tackler (painter!), 1 engie, gunship and a destroyer (debuffs + support fire) all enemy destroyers were down under a minute. We had another battle, when our team was already tired and we made a mistake deploying 2 inties and a tackler vs 2 tacklers and 2 ecms. Well, 3 quick points to enemy gave us a waking call. From what you are describing - you were flying with a frigate against a destroyer - which usually ends up very bad for the frig…
I approve this message 
11 hours ago, aldermatias said:
Someone share a video here killing destroyers (easily) compilation like certain people says. Ohh nothing…?!
Easily! 
Vigilant:
Spoiler
Sirius:
Spoiler
Destroyers aren’t that strong right now (R14 ones probably are, but I haven’t flown them yet and don’t really have an opinion about those). What I REALLY DISLIKE is not being able to go toe-to-toe with other destroyers not because of skill, but because of luck and/or $$$. Why did you make r11 modules be crafted instead of purchased? The parts go for 10s of thousands of GS because of the minuscule drop rates of the darn RNG-Ridden caches.
And then there’s PvE. Why match r11 against t5? Is this intentional? We can’t farm pve above rank 10 because it takes forever to finish a mission and we’re forced to do lower tier PvE to be able to grind the credits needed to purchase more ships and modules. I don’t know, but these things irk me. Sorry for the rant.
destroyer Ace = down… it’s very rare a destroyer who can fight a light ship. But we can.
Again this destroyers OP rhetoric, destroyers are only OP to people that can’t develop a build , fly in straight lines and forget to use the objects in space for cover.
2 minutes ago, ORCA1911 said:
Again this destroyers OP rhetoric, destroyers are only OP to people that can’t develop a build , fly in straight lines and forget to use the objects in space for cover.
 I didn’t know I’m lacking in so many fields 
14 minutes ago, ORCA1911 said:
Again this destroyers OP rhetoric, destroyers are only OP to people that can’t develop a build , fly in straight lines and forget to use the objects in space for cover.
Oh wow. I didn’t know It’s possible to take cover and not fly in straight lines.
Clearly I have a lot to learn before I become a pro like you