Yes! I will prove my point with 3 games! Such a broad sample of games!
You really wanted to pick at me
I saw in the email notification you started to comment on another sentence.
Why u didn’t continue it? XD
Because I the other day on Facebook that graphic about playerbase percentages but didn’t realize Russians had a survey for their own, so it was kind of a pointless post.
Also, isn’t it annoying to get e-mails every time you get quoted?
Because I the other day on Facebook that graphic about playerbase percentages but didn’t realize Russians had a survey for their own, so it was kind of a pointless post.
Also, isn’t it annoying to get e-mails every time you get quoted?
Yes this show how much I can believe what they say…
http://star-conflict.com/ru/news/425/current
http://star-conflict.com/en/news/390/current
No point to cheat in this small things. We are not stupid, and we all know if you kill 10 pilots in Invasion at least 5 of them will write PM to you with some Russian message…
I have a filter on the SC messages, I’m ok with the lot of emails 
Back to the problem, we tried to organise T3 4v4 against WPK and GoD earlier and we sit in queue 10 min without luck. Seems the ESB squad get game in 2 min with a 4squad, but we can’t get them just if we go as 3.
Back to the problem, we tried to organise T3 4v4 against WPK and GoD earlier and we sit in queue 10 min without luck. Seems the ESB squad get game in 2 min with a 4squad, but we can’t get them just if we go as 3.
This particular problem (4v4 in t3) is a known bug apparently and is being worked on.
This particular problem (4v4 in t3) is a known bug apparently and is being worked on.
This is a known problem for us, but it is no problem for ESB. Somehow they have no 4man squad restriction or they know how to bypass it.
This is a known problem for us, but it is no problem for ESB. Somehow they have no 4man squad restriction or they know how to bypass it.
Error will solve it. While he does it, we have to deal with the situation. And I’m glad to hear that the “mighty ESB” needs matchmaking tricks to beat other corps.
Somehow they have no 4man squad restriction or they know how to bypass it.
And I’m glad to hear that the “mighty ESB” needs matchmaking tricks to beat other corps.
Guys pls throw the conspiracy theories out the window. There are no secret MM tricks for ESB
I just wish they would finally add some transparency to the MM. Instead they make a new ratingsystem but still use the old one for the MM. Great fix.
I do not believe in this conspiracy theory, but i do believe that those bugs are the result of prioritizing on the RU community.
Part of the reason, you can read it every day on this forum. The loudest and most heard voices are people who barely even play and if they do they do it at times where one 4th of the community is playing. They are busy celebrating their awesomeness and ultimate pro status, lobbying against ships they dont like / or understand. In the meanwhile we have bugs that nobody notices for a month (!) or more while RU players have no problems at all. Those are basic bugs that decide between " can a player get a game therefor play the game or not". Its not about ECM COV OPS DRONEPOOPER GUARD WHATEVER. WE CANNOT GET A GAME. Thats it.
I think we all agree there is a problem with the matchmaking for squads, however yeahalex is right, there is no way the devs are favouring Russian corps. What would they get out of it? Now let’s just all calm down, stop throwing accusations and hope the devs manage to fix this issue soon.
I don’t believe that “The truth is out there”, but that MM in t3 is really a mess for squads. It works better in t5 but still that speedy mm gives you little match even when there’s a lot of people in que.
So we found the issue. We tried today running all premium ships, and we successfully got a game vs. a 3-squad.
Why were we not told that this is how 4-man squads work? It is stupid that a 4-squad cannot run r9 standard ships and get games. Lots of good ships are R9 standards.
So we found the issue. We tried today running all premium ships, and we successfully got a game vs. a 3-squad.
Why were we not told that this is how 4-man squads work? It is stupid that a 4-squad cannot run r9 standard ships and get games. Lots of good ships are R9 standards.
since always premiums were counted as R8 and full R8 ships were in lower que than R9
[http://forum.star-conflict.com/index.php?/topic/25732-remove-squad-restrictions-after-4-minutes-in-queue/?p=304033](< base_url >/index.php?/topic/25732-remove-squad-restrictions-after-4-minutes-in-queue/?p=304033)
What about removing the restriction on T4/5 only so average players won’t be affected?
If I’m not mistaken, this already happens. If we remove the restriction or do +1/-1 Matchmaking in lower tiers then players will be encouraged to squad up and gain that habit in higher tiers. It will also NOT deter players from leaving the game because the won’t have to discover long queue times for doing a squad.
If we do this it will be a positive feedback loop.
There had been a lot of complains in the past about squads having a big impact on the battle. Why should it be different this time?
So not just the R9 golden ships count as R8 but the +1/-1 ship is working as well in T3 what is also new for me based on the discussion from the other topic.
And at least the ESB guys know it because example of them who have just 5 golden ships take only 1 ship into game.
The suspicious thing was the Valor as a main Engineer from ESB…
So what is next? It seems the holly balance is why we couldn’t get games for 2 months let us to hunt down poor T3 3 squads with “OP” R9 golden ships.
Because seems here Maximum said the T3 is imba. because of the Golden Ships and this one of the reason why he want the next tournament in T4:
http://forum.star-conflict.ru/index.php?/topic/44294-t4-kak-turnirnyj-tek/
" 2) a clear imbalance with a premium ships. At t3 problem is particularly acute, since the standard analogs too weak by themselves."
BTW: can Error confirm the next Tournament will be in T4?
Based on the next poll this is not totally decided but I would be surprised if it won’t be in T4… so seems they already decided without us.
[http://forum.star-conflict.ru/index.php?/topic/44418-anons-novogo-turnira-opros-i-pozhelaniia-igrokov/
"](http://forum.star-conflict.ru/index.php?/topic/44418-anons-novogo-turnira-opros-i-pozhelaniia-igrokov/)So, given the go-ahead for a new tournament. Yet nothing is ready, because only learned and I’m too lazy.
So far that it can not say for sure:
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Tech: T4
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Date: dated February 23, that is, somewhere in a month at least, probably even more.
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count of the people in the team - at least eight, maybe more.
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double elimineyshn.
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If the time perebalansyat new guns - still smoking, as well as drones with apokalami."
BTW: can Error confirm the next Tournament will be in T4?
Based on the next poll this is not totally decided but I would be surprised if it won’t be in T4… so seems they already decided without us.
"So, given the go-ahead for a new tournament. Yet nothing is ready, because only learned and I’m too lazy.
So far that it can not say for sure:
Tech: T4
Date: dated February 23, that is, somewhere in a month at least, probably even more.
count of the people in the team - at least eight, maybe more.
double elimineyshn.
If the time perebalansyat new guns - still smoking, as well as drones with apokalami."
I think Maximum’s tournament is organised for the Russian community and will be on RU servers.
As far as I know this is the next tournament:
[http://forum.star-conflict.com/index.php?/topic/25792-underground-tournamentt1-white-glove-t5-anything-goes/](< base_url >/index.php?/topic/25792-underground-tournamentt1-white-glove-t5-anything-goes/)
Stay on topic; atm. the problem is as follows:
- white R8 / R9 golden 4 squads have the chance to get a 3-man squad / 4-man squad in queue in T3.
- white R9 4-squads do not get games in T3 against anybody; it seems this is legacy from T3&T4 mix. It has yet to be tested if R9 4-squads get games against R10 squads.
It should be however this way:
- 4 squads should get other 4 squads, before they are considered given a 3-squad in their own tier.
- if there is a R8 rule for 4-squads, I have no problems if they get a 3-squad as enemy, but…
- if there is a R9 4-squad in queue and you queue as an R8 4-squad, you have to pay the iron price and get them, and not another 3-squad.
http://forum.star-conflict.ru/index.php?/topic/44294-t4-kak-turnirnyj-tek/
" 2) a clear imbalance with a premium ships. At t3 problem is particularly acute, since the standard analogs too weak by themselves."
I totally disagree, t3 white ships are at least equal to golden.
http://forum.star-conflict.ru/index.php?/topic/44294-t4-kak-turnirnyj-tek/
" 2) a clear imbalance with a premium ships. At t3 problem is particularly acute, since the standard analogs too weak by themselves."
I totally disagree, t3 white ships are at least equal to golden.
I also disagree with it. the standard ships are enough strong by themselves.
IMO the only theoretically imba part between golden and white ships in T3 is,
without golden ships u lose a lot of potential tactic or u only can use them less effective, because 4example you don’t have R9 or R8 Empire gunship or an optimal cruise tackeler. this only a disadvantage if you think as a team.
But the MM should balance the games with the solo players as well, so in T3 PVP the white squad should get solo players with golden ships too.
Otherwise I think the game will only become balance if the ships count as what they are, not -1 rank if you pay for it.
I’m totally agains the team punishment, worst case, I have a “SC dev style” solution,
if the MM doesn’t find a squad against a team, fill the enemy with randoms and hide the squad mark in the game lobby… hide more info that always working…
Or my solution is give reward for the players who’s squadding up, and advertise the squad gaming everywhere.
create an achivements (Win 100 game in 4squad at least with R7 ships.)
I’m getting bored about the Solo Conflict.
The game will become more famous if the players can play together.
Seems the SC team have totally no idea how to make famous the game without a lot of money.
I am telling the secret now: The happy customer who want to share the fun will invite more customers who will do the same. This is a chain reaction. but this works backwards too. the disappointed customer makes the current customers disappointed too. And at the end, all leave the game. Because the MMO players like to play together, not in solo.
Stay on topic; atm. the problem is as follows:
- white R8 / R9 golden 4 squads have the chance to get a 3-man squad / 4-man squad in queue in T3.
- white R9 4-squads do not get games in T3 against anybody; it seems this is legacy from T3&T4 mix. It has yet to be tested if R9 4-squads get games against R10 squads.
It should be however this way:
- 4 squads should get other 4 squads, before they are considered given a 3-squad in their own tier.
- if there is a R8 rule for 4-squads, I have no problems if they get a 3-squad as enemy, but…
- if there is a R9 4-squad in queue and you queue as an R8 4-squad, you have to pay the iron price and get them, and not another 3-squad.
I agree with it for first. Please fix based on this.
@Error: please let us know what did they found about this and when will they fix it.
For some reason, i always get the team with the “less experienced players” in T2. I know you might believe its superstition, but its statistically really unlikely. Now for 6 times in a row i was set up with spawn campers without end. And it only happens in T2. I think the matchmaker works like that: “Oh, a player who is playing t5, i can give him some newbies, he will carry them.” Here the matchmaker is wrong.
We have checked it and the other squad queued up more closer to the ESB squad in aspect of timing.