Fix Biased Matchmaking

Today, OWL and I were flying in a 3-squad and we were paired up against a 4-squad of ESB. We were shocked that a 4-squad was actually getting games, so we added a 4th to our squad to try to get against them again, but we never got a game. We even set our preferred region to RU and we still never got a game against them. After waiting about 5 minutes or more, we checked our followed list for the members of that ESB squad, and saw they got a game, most likely vs. a 3-squad. Frustrated, we reverted back to a 3-squad, and sure enough, we got a game against the ESB squad almost instantly after queueing. 

 

Even when we queued as a 4-squad while the ESB squad was in a game, we never got a game, even against a 3-squad like the ESB guys were getting paired against.

 

This tells me that either of two things (likely both) is happening.

 

  1. Matchmaking is biased towards Russian players, allowing them to get games while in a 4-man squad.

  2. Matchmaking does not allow 4-squads to face each other (which if this is the case, it should not be that way).

 

This is utter bull**** and needs to be fixed. It is extremely unfair for matchmaker to prioritize one squad over another, as well as not let the two squads of equal size to face each other.

I still think it should be more like robocraft, where it will let squads go without another squad on the other team, and have 1-2 more players on the other side without the squad. depending on the tier and other factors.

I still think it should be more like robocraft, where it will let squads go without another squad on the other team, and have 1-2 more players on the other side without the squad. depending on the tier and other factors.

 

As much as I would like to support that, it won’t work. Squads have great advantages over solo players (mainly direct voice communication they most likely use).

I wrote this post because the matchmaker seemed to prefer that ESB squad over other squads, giving them games against 3-squads, but not against us (another 4-squad), or it never gave us a game at all when we were a 4-squad queueing while the ESB squad was in game (there were 2 3-squads running at the time, as we had played against both previously).

The matchmaking works neutral, it does not prefere any region. Since it depends on the other team members and not only the squads, we would need the exact time to look into it.

See dirk…

1x NA$A + 2x OWL are as good as 4 man ESB squad

 

BE PROUD!!!  :006j:

I still think it should be more like robocraft, where it will let squads go without another squad on the other team, and have 1-2 more players on the other side without the squad. depending on the tier and other factors.

 

Robocraft’s mm is pretty messed up imo.

The matchmaking works neutral, it does not prefere any region. Since it depends on the other team members and not only the squads, we would need the exact time to look into it.

 

What if I can prove it with videos and log files?

What if I can prove it with videos and log files?

This would be helpful, but the exact time would still be required.

The first game started at: 17. january 2015. 22:23
We started queueing with a four-man squad against ESB at: 22:30

Log files: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B6zS9FcAwBzpOXpmeU11MV9XNzg&usp=sharing
Footage from the day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAab9Jo9rVA&feature=youtu.be

The first game started at: 17. january 2015. 22:23

We started queueing with a four-man squad against ESB at: 22:30

Log files: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B6zS9FcAwBzpOXpmeU11MV9XNzg&usp=sharing

Footage from the day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAab9Jo9rVA&feature=youtu.be

Which time zone?

Which time zone?

 

CET (Central European Time)

UTC/GMT +1 hour

The matchmaking works neutral, it does not prefere any region. Since it depends on the other team members and not only the squads, we would need the exact time to look into it.

Sorry but I can’t believe this. The T3 MM is broken with the 4 squads now. And seems it is only works for ESB now.

The teams get punished, we can’t practice against each other.

I know ESB should win but c’mon, do it less conspicuous.

I know the European community is not interesting because we are just the 5% but please make the game fair for us too.

And seems it is only works for ESB now.

 

Now? We’ve had this kind of threads about mm being kind to ESB since day 1.

 

 

 

Now? We’ve had this kind of threads about mm being kind to ESB since day 1.

 

You really wanted to pick at me :smiley: I saw in the email notification you started to comment on another sentence.

Why u didn’t continue it? XD

 

Gizmomac,

 

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I know the European community is not interesting because we are just the 5% but please make the game fair for us too.


What


Yes there is several thread form the beginning, but usually really hard to prove it, since we don’t have too many infos how the MM is working.

Now? We’ve had this kind of threads about mm being kind to ESB since day 1.

Remember when Sector Conquest came out and ESB were the only Empire Corp that could capture territory because of a weird bug? That really added fuel to the fire.

Yes! I will prove my point with 3 games! Such a broad sample of games!

You really wanted to pick at me :smiley: I saw in the email notification you started to comment on another sentence.

Why u didn’t continue it? XD

 

Because I the other day on Facebook that graphic about playerbase percentages but didn’t realize Russians had a survey for their own, so it was kind of a pointless post.

 

Also, isn’t it annoying to get e-mails every time you get quoted?

Because I the other day on Facebook that graphic about playerbase percentages but didn’t realize Russians had a survey for their own, so it was kind of a pointless post.

 

Also, isn’t it annoying to get e-mails every time you get quoted?

Yes this show how much I can believe what they say…

http://star-conflict.com/ru/news/425/current

http://star-conflict.com/en/news/390/current

No point to cheat in this small things. We are not stupid, and we all know if you kill 10 pilots in Invasion at least 5 of them will write PM to you with some Russian message…

I have a filter on the SC messages, I’m ok with the lot of emails :slight_smile:

Back to the problem, we tried to organise T3 4v4 against WPK and GoD earlier and we sit in queue 10 min without luck. Seems the ESB squad get game in 2 min with a 4squad, but we can’t get them just if we go as 3.

Back to the problem, we tried to organise T3 4v4 against WPK and GoD earlier and we sit in queue 10 min without luck. Seems the ESB squad get game in 2 min with a 4squad, but we can’t get them just if we go as 3.

 

This particular problem (4v4 in t3) is a known bug apparently and is being worked on.

This particular problem (4v4 in t3) is a known bug apparently and is being worked on.

This is a known problem for us, but it is no problem for ESB. Somehow they have no 4man squad restriction or they know how to bypass it.