Who/How do you report team killing?

I agree with everything but, you MUST be able to prove that a TK is intentional (as you did), as I said, banning someone for popping a torpedo in a melee fight who takes out a couple of friendlies, while also taking out enemies at the same time, is NOT something that will be / should be punishable as that is how the weapon is used, and whether you look at it this way or not, that player is trying to help the team. 

 

You can’t look at  every TK as intentional because the reality is they are not. 

As it is a team game every behaviour that discourages teamplay (e.g detonating a torpedo in the midst of 5 allies to kill 1 enemy) should be reported. This is not how the torpedo is supposed to be used. Yes, sometimes killing your allies is the correct decision if you want to take down the bomb carrier, a cluster of enemies, a particularily dangerously positioned guy in combat recon etc. And no you can’t look at every TK as intentional. But yes you can and should make GM’s aware of players that do TK’s in situations where they aren’t needed/counterproductive on a constant basis so these players can be told to behave themselves.

 

On a side note, I kill teammates too if I have to so this isn’t a rage/hate post. It’s just that at some point you can’t excuse a players stupidity and/or obnoxiousness and/or lack of team awareness.

 

Also I like your name OP person

i have notice several people are talking about the game mechanicl trouble behind the torpedos. its seems like a hard mechanic to balance as the potential friendly fire would resort to teams working more tightly together.

I agree with everything but, you MUST be able to prove that a TK is intentional (as you did), as I said, banning someone for popping a torpedo in a melee fight who takes out a couple of friendlies, while also taking out enemies at the same time, is NOT something that will be / should be punishable as that is how the weapon is used, and whether you look at it this way or not, that player is trying to help the team. 

 

You can’t look at  every TK as intentional because the reality is they are not. 

 

Funny that it’s second thread already where you keep being quite protective about TK behaviours… Seems like a pattern to me and I’m not sure I would like to have you in my team while doing bomb run or capping those nodes…

 

Not to mention - this video shows totally intentional TK/griefer and yet you tell Sexy to move his/her sniper… U mad?  :crazy:

 

On topic - whether this dude’s behaviour was an answer to Sexy’s trolling in Global chat, lack of knowledge, stupidity or simple need to annoy someone- he definitely should be punished. But I think reporting TK (unless it’s someone who repeat such thing during few matches or so) is a bit over the top.

 

Whatever I said in this thread:  Teammates should pay for damaging or killing teammates applies here also. 

I would also like to be able to see on player’s profile screen “Number of friendlies killed” stat .

 

As a side note: I’m used to the team-based games where there is full FF on. Avoiding damaging or killing friendly unit is one of the most vital skills for team focused player. Sure, there are moments when you have to make a hard choice. But punishment helps to make it what it should be: a hard choice.

Foxdie1 is another Tker Griefer, he ram killed me in a match after blocking my sniper shots completely (apparently the disentagrater doesn’t damage team mates… ) When I ask him to move out of my line of fire he just started ramming me till I died, then bragged about it and said he does it to all the snipers every match.

 


 

On the other topic, I’m an expert shot with a Jericho torp, can even kill enemies in a group of friendlies with little to no damage to the friendlies. But because of the FF issue I decided to switch to sniping as the Desentigrator doesn’t seem to damage friendlies as much if I fire into a group and it glances someone before hitting the enemy.

Funny that it’s second thread already where you keep being quite protective about TK behaviours… Seems like a pattern to me and I’m not sure I would like to have you in my team while doing bomb run or capping those nodes…

 

Not to mention - this video shows totally intentional TK/griefer and yet you tell Sexy to move his/her sniper… U mad?  :crazy:

 

On topic - whether this dude’s behaviour was an answer to Sexy’s trolling in Global chat, lack of knowledge, stupidity or simple need to annoy someone- he definitely should be punished. But I think reporting TK (unless it’s someone who repeat such thing during few matches or so) is a bit over the top.

 

Whatever I said in this thread:  Teammates should pay for damaging or killing teammates applies here also. 

I would also like to be able to see on player’s profile screen “Number of friendlies killed” stat .

 

As a side note: I’m used to the team-based games where there is full FF on. Avoiding damaging or killing friendly unit is one of the most vital skills for team focused player. Sure, there are moments when you have to make a hard choice. But punishment helps to make it what it should be: a hard choice.

 

 

I’m not being protective, that’s how y’all are reading into it. I’ve also even said the OP HAS A CASE OF INTENTIONAL TKing here, and I agree with him multiple times. If I am mad, it’s only because there is a total lack of reading comprehension and understanding on the part of people reading my posts, and severe cases of tunnel-vision “RAAWWRR, ALL TKERS MUST BE PUNISHED AND BANNED!! NO SUCH THINGS AS ACCIDENTS!! RAWWRR!!!” I don’t TK, and play to a games objectives, if this game had public stats, they would show that, even though they wouldn’t be the greatest. Personally, I don’t use the torpedos, at least not with any regularity.

 

What I AM saying is not to be so fast to jump to a conclusion behind a players motive (OP case is obvious). 

 

I’ve seen & been involved in to many other games where people get punished for an accident (although OPs case wasn’t one) TK. I’m not defending intentional / griefer tkers, I AM defending against willy nilly punishing just because a player was inconvenienced once in a match by accident. It happens. Respawn, move on, then decide how to act on the second one. 

 

See the difference? Repeat offenders get punished…this is the point i am trying to make.

so are any admins actually looking at this thread?

@Sexy even if they do (and I’m sure they do), they are not obliged to reply in it. No worries. If you think that guy will be punished on the fly or banned or whatever, I wouldn’t count on it. He actually shouldn’t in all honesty. As I said before - there should be other measures than straight down suspension or ban for people who intentionally (or not) Team Kill. They should be discouraged to do so through game mechanics.

 

@scruffyhobbit  what can I say to that? You somehow made your point clear now but nonetheless good few people read your previous statement quite similarly. Stats are somehow public - I can always add you to my Watched list. Moot point though, as there is no  “Team Members Killed” stat. Besides - with only 21 battles and 28 enemies killed it’s kind of hard to evaluate your teamplay skills…

 

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