The alien weapon is also surprisingly effective at defending your ship, you should test that! ”)
Excellent nerf is excellent. Given that destroyers used to be able to deny multiple beacons by camping in the right spot, they really needed to be beaten down. Now, an incoming cov-ops is instant death. It’s glorious.
You mean G’Thar’Du? Yeah, I’m on my way to get the T5 one to Mk.4, pretty fun, but not too useful in tight spaces ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
7 minutes ago, JasanQuinn said:
Excellent nerf is excellent. Given that destroyers used to be able to deny multiple beacons by camping in the right spot, they really needed to be beaten down. Now, an incoming cov-ops is instant death. It’s glorious.
Problem is that now it’s always instant death whatever you do.
14 minutes ago, Swifter43021 said:
Problem is that now it’s always instant death whatever you do.
A combination of Tackler and Recon can defend a Destroyer quite good. The module and weapons are still quite strong or stronger then before, you just can’t use the destroyer anymore as a close quarter tank.
5 hours ago, EndeavSTEEL said:
Wut no dessy where fine before no need to nerf them every players learn how to take them out, it was a taught fight alone but with 2 or 3 team mate any destroyer get downed pretty fast. There is no points having a dessy if it’s weaker than a frigate… now destroyer feel like having a frigate with the health of a fighter… 
4 hours ago, TheDarkRedFox said:
…I can solo any dressy in almost anything. It’s like all that work is completely moot. A single plasma arc can take down an archon. A couple of close range torps can too. Any explosive will take them down in very few hits within 750m as well.
For those that don’t read patchnotes: If you get within 750m of a destroyer you do 3x damage do it.
And also how are they supposed to be careful when they are basically just stationary objects now.
Ridicules is : a single cov-ops interceptor blowing up a huge mass of a destroyer - fly a circle and kill another!!! That is BS.
Why to have any destroyer now? Why to grind for any destroyer now?
Even Federation dessys in OpenSpace are useless because of the speed nerf - ultra-nerf!
5 hours ago, millanbel said:
And you think it’s normal that a ship with over 100K HP and doomsday weapons should be able to move away from a bomb or arc deployed by the nimblest of ships in the game?
5 hours ago, EndeavSTEEL said:
Well to make it short, a single inty can take out any dessy in less than a min(for a normal player), for a veteran it take less than 30sec…
Alas, the speed nerf is reasonable but - as a Federation flyer of destroyers in Open Space - it hurts, because I build mine for OS missions!!
The 3x damage in 750m is idiotic!!
3 hours ago, EndeavSTEEL said:
Yea that problematic, with this nerf ppl are a bit septic on using them:
We all know that there is plenty of mission that require to kill destroyer witch mean primary target. And now the nerf come on, witch mean easy frags. Double primary target.
No one wants to be kill ”)
Yes idiotic to nerf them that much now and have missions against them - and that they introduced the ugly OP Tharga – idiotic!
Destroyers need nerf but not on this way :(.
on T3 , its only a few fix to do , the T3 were pretty well balanced .
the few things to changes :
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nerf Pyro emetter ( less 10-20% )
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alien weapon , the gravi-anomaly stay only 0.5-1 sec , to avoid useless spaming Balls on beacon for example
on T4
- the same as T3 and nerf the lens anomaly module
on T5
- all modules , stat and weapon like this vaccum lazer need to be balance .
the bad idea with this patch .
nerf Fed. agility , hum…hum… its like after 5 years , the dev. forgetten all storyline from the factions . if i play with Fed. ships i don’t want to have on the hands an impire ships .
The Halo weapon , having a good dps with AOE effect , why grow up more the outcome DPS …Oo …
Just now, zzzfrogzzz said:
Destroyers need nerf but not on this way :(.
on T3 , its only a few fix to do , the T3 were pretty well balanced .
the few things to changes :
nerf Pyro emetter ( less 10-20% )
alien weapon , the gravi-anomaly stay only 0.5-1 sec , to avoid useless spaming Balls on beacon for example
on T4
- the same as T3 and nerf the lens anomaly module
on T5
- all modules , stat and weapon like this vaccum lazer need to be balance .
the bad idea with this patch .
nerf Fed. agility , hum…hum… its like after 5 years , the dev. forgetten all storyline from the factions . if i play with Fed. ships i don’t want to have on the hands an impire ships .
The Halo weapon , having a good dps with AOE effect , why grow up more the outcome DPS …Oo …
+1!!
Try to get close to my short range crit vigilant and you will have a bad time even with these nerfs, also get close or overly aggressive with one against me, same thing happens all over again. It’s the know-how that gives you the edge and general skill over time.
As I always said to people asking “whats the most OP ship in the game” in whisper mode, standard ships. If you don’t learn anything from standard ships you wont learn it anywhere else, ever.
Invest in SP ships for good reason and then go for the bling-bling premium ships and stuff. Destroyers are a variation of sp ships in a way and require now a bit more than point and shoot, a bit more awareness which in turn will filter the less skilled players from a bit more skilled ones.
17 minutes ago, ORCA1911 said:
Try to get close to my short range crit vigilant and you will have a bad time even with these nerfs, also get close or overly aggressive with one against me, same thing happens all over again. It’s the know-how that gives you the edge and general skill over time.
As I always said to people asking “whats the most OP ship in the game” in whisper mode, standard ships. If you don’t learn anything from standard ships you wont learn it anywhere else, ever.
Invest in SP ships for good reason and then go for the bling-bling premium ships and stuff. Destroyers are a variation of sp ships in a way and require now a bit more than point and shoot, a bit more awareness which in turn will filter the less skilled players from a bit more skilled ones.
a drastic nerf ; limit one CPU slot for all destroyers and all probems 'll be solved ”)
6 minutes ago, zzzfrogzzz said:
a drastic nerf ; limit one CPU slot for all destroyers and all probems 'll be solved ”)
That’s just stupid
I don’t mind the frailness…much…however destroyers NEED their speed back and need a boost to both the amount of shields and drones they can carry. This way it’s more skill based on the player and you can still perform well.
I’d also recommend that the static shields get a blast buff, meaning that they can shield the player from 50% of the blast damage of any weapons. PLUS block anomaly generators. (those things are the worst for destroyers right now.)
I’m gona try playing exclusively Invincible in PvP and continue to see if whether ALL these nerfs are good or not. If I can overcome these nerfs with skill, then great! Devs did exactly what they needed to do.
The point of destroyers is that THEIR destroyers!!
BTW devs, the Meson Cannon is now officially useless. Since you need to get close to use it effectively. Can we get a buff to the density of the guns?
6 hours ago, JasanQuinn said:
Excellent nerf is excellent. Given that destroyers used to be able to deny multiple beacons by camping in the right spot, they really needed to be beaten down. Now, an incoming cov-ops is instant death. It’s glorious.
I never built a Destroyer, didn’t like them from the start and I am so happy about this patch.
The the complaints about Dessy’s have now come full circle.
I will enjoy my Cov-Ops slaughter fest like a fat kid on a pack of smarties. I’m gonna eat me a lot of smarties.
39 minutes ago, HBZK100 said:
If I can overcome these nerfs with skill, then great! Devs did exactly what they needed to do.
I like the way you think. That mentality will get you far in this game.
For starters stop using Curved reflector on your mesons
Use the Flat reflector instead
imho explosive weapons should not get 2.5 modifier in close range, it amplifies dmg through the roof and they were already almost great at taking down destroyers. In the same time with the fact it is so easy to take down a destroyer, re-spawn timer should be considerably reduced so is repair cost
3 minutes ago, xKostyan said:
imho explosive weapons should not get 2.5 modifier in close range, it amplifies dmg through the roof and they were already almost great at taking down destroyers. In the same time with the fact it is so easy to take down a destroyer, re-spawn timer should be considerably reduced so is repair cost
Yes I agree. Destroyer needs to be like a normal ship, just bigger. Now that they are killable, they should indeed get normal respawn times and repair costs, and I’m fine with there being an unlimited number of destros in each match as well.
I haven’t used explosive weapons in a very long time. Is there still the self-harm thing? If there is then to get the 2.5 bonus you will damage yourself getting so close, which is fair. If not then yes I agree they should not get so much bonus, since they are so good at killing modules and get a default bonus already for being explosive. Maybe 1.5 or even none.
40 minutes ago, millanbel said:
Yes I agree. Destroyer needs to be like a normal ship, just bigger. Now that they are killable, they should indeed get normal respawn times and repair costs, and I’m fine with there being an unlimited number of destros in each match as well.
I haven’t used explosive weapons in a very long time. Is there still the self-harm thing? If there is then to get the 2.5 bonus you will damage yourself getting so close, which is fair. If not then yes I agree they should not get so much bonus, since they are so good at killing modules and get a default bonus already for being explosive. Maybe 1.5 or even none.
Most dangerous to a destroyer close range explosive weapons are Singularities, Phaser’s slow charge, Phase suppressor and Kinetic Supercharger.
If you are going to dmg yourself in close range, that will come from your missiles
Yeah, explosive weapons are insanely powerful against destroyers now. That’s absurd.
It takes longer to kill a frigate then a destroyer with bubbles now 