There Needs to be a Reset (At Release)

In/after Alpha or Closed Beta Test there might be a resets, wipes, i have seen it in some games (very few) but many games in alpha or cbt just continued with content without any kind of resets.
This is an Open Beta Test game and i’ve never heard nor i’ve ever played any obt game that had resets/wipes(just because of the player time spent in the game, because of the premium stuff… and so so many other things) before release date or something.

In/after Alpha or Closed Beta Test there might be a resets, wipes, i have seen it in some games (very few) but many games in alpha or cbt just continued with content without any kind of resets.

This is an Open Beta Test game and i’ve never heard nor i’ve ever played any obt game that had resets/wipes(just because of the player time spent in the game, because of the premium stuff… and so so many other things) before release date or something.

 

World of Tanks

 

And to add, I find that generally speaking if there is a beta of any description normally at the end there is a reset… you know, BF4 beta, Cowadoody’s. That’s going on about what, over 9000? (Stopped keeping track after copy paste number 5 or 6, hard to remember).

 

It’s pretty common occurrence with flagship franchises.

 

Oh, D3 also. Gaijin also said there’d be a wipe on War Thunder at some point but I’m pretty sure they will “forget” about it.

I imagine that just forum regulars have shelled out a combined grand at a low ball estimate to put things in perspective. The rage quitting would be so massive that the new question would become “how come no one plays T2?”

Except me, the current money i have paid is 0. Am i being masochistic? I dont know.

Guess I’ll be the first one to straight up say phuck everything about this. 

Guess I’ll be the first one to straight up say phuck everything about this. 

My thoughts exactly.

 

I’m sorry, Jopp, but it would really ruin the game.  For everyone who plays it.  That’d be enough to offset the playerbase that Gaijin would “gain” by wiping everyone’s stats.

 

I’m not a vet by any standards, but I have been playing this game long enough to tell you that I would be straight up pissed off if the devs decided to do that.  Not just because my stats got wiped, but also because a hell of a lot of my corp mates spend a decent bit of money on this game, and I can only imagine how upset they would be.

 

However, I would say that there could be a reset button that allows for stat resets.  Corps may find issue with this, as it could make a lot of players act like they’ve played more games than they really have, or make a seasoned player seem like a novice.

It’s really simple: Gaijin said ‘no wipe in Star Conflict’

-> Thus players were ready to invest more money into the game and in this way support the game they like!!!

If they had said otherwise from the very start - okay, no problem. The playerbase would have adapted their playingstyle and their investments and efforts accordingly. However, they promised ‘no wipe’. Furthermore, I can just agree with what everyone said in this thread.

 

When you start this game, you will be placed against equal players of Tier 1/2 !!! So what is the problem. What do you need a wipe for? In the lower tiers you can play all you want and learn the game step by step WITHOUT being harrassed by experienced veterans. If I start playing again tier 1/2, it wouldn’t be much fun… I did it once a few weeks back in the time, just to try a new premiumship I bought… Since I had all the necessary modules + the experience, I easily got 15+ kills in one battle against inexperienced players in T2… my record was 26 (!!!) kills.

Would that be fun to you and other new players after a wipe?? You know, I am not one of the most skilled pilots out there. Imagine ESB Squads fighting in Tier 1. Have fun.

 

So I prefer playing higher tiers, of course I die a lot and don’t kill much. But the games are simply more fun, more exciting, because usually the players I play against have more experience, tactics, etc. One can have real dogfights.

Of course, sometimes you still encounter new and inexperienced players who bought a high tier premium ship. Well, that’s that.

 

Long talk, short message: No wipe! There is absolutely no benefit for anyone!

I agree so much with that statement, to get where I am now, would be about 2 years of grind. No way jose

Well, it is not that hard really. I have played 370 hours since October according to Steam (half of the time waiting or just doing nothing) and I have all rank 8 and below elite. Almost full purple modules in tier 1, 2, 3 and around 10 tier 4 (without leveling, cos of MM and lack of T4 games)

 

If I had rushed tiers, I’m sure I could have already the Aura, Jarl and Lightbringer. With all green and some purples.

 

Concerning the wipe. No, people has paid for licenses and DLCs. That is real money. And in case they just wipe all your pixel ships without warning will be the end of the business because, who will invest in a company which can at any time wipe your account and without warning?

 

Also, as some people have said, once new players begin joining the game they will be evenly distributed in matches. Maybe they have one Vet in their team, but the skill MM will place another one in the other team.

 

And anyway, this is like WoT, there are bad players which will be bad even after grinding the whole tree, and good players which can beat your arse with a full white Swift mk3

If there was a wipe, I would stop hyping this game up to my friends and begin deterring them, on the most irrelevant n unscrupulous of premises, basically out of spite.

Agree with Mapoko. If I didn’t get to at least T3 prior to synergy, I probably wouldn’t be here. I also thoroughly fail to understand the people who can stick out the current grind. 

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Now that I have your attention… allow me to explain why I facepalm.

When I say wipe, I’m not meaning a wipe of anything real money related. A simple resetting of account stats and ships you’ve levelled… you KEEP the real money stuff, INCLUDING SHIPS.

Jesus, do you think I am so stupid that I would dare to imply that real money stuff should be wiped? I know that would be reputation suicide for any game company!!

 

In other words, all gold standards and whatnot that you purchases, all premium ships… you keep those. Just so I am clear.

It’s a hard, LONG grind to R15, unless you Tier rush, screwing everyone you play with in the behind. The previous wipe was also non-Premium related, iirc. Matter of fact, I don’t even think there was any Premium content back then.

It’s not our fault you started playing the game nearly a year after some of us joined.    Take the time to learn the game in the lower tiers…there’s no rush to get farmed by more experienced players.  I had nearly 800 games under my belt before I ever started T3 and almost 2000 before I was able to fly a full roster of decently equipped T4 ships.

 

You just want everything wiped so you don’t feel so far behind everybody else admit it.

Now that I have your attention… allow me to explain why I facepalm.

When I say wipe, I’m not meaning a wipe of anything real money related. A simple resetting of account stats and ships you’ve levelled… you KEEP the real money stuff, INCLUDING SHIPS.

Jesus, do you think I am so stupid that I would dare to imply that real money stuff should be wiped? I know that would be reputation suicide for any game company!!

 

In other words, all gold standards and whatnot that you purchases, all premium ships… you keep those. Just so I am clear.

 

Yeah, sure, everyone wants to farm a gazilion vouchers from scratch, and a gazilion artifacts to re-level all their gear. Everyone would LOVE to resinergise a gazilion ships, so we get the current fleet strenght we have, to start feeling like you are earning synergy.

 

NO NO NONONONONONONONONONON NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

As others have said, I would not have stuck with the game if I’d had to level up under the current model.

Moreover, if we keep GS related stuff in your ‘wipe’, what about credits or synergy bought with GS?

The fact is, you’re jealous of the fact you have to put up with a crap progress system, whereas we all got an awesome one. The answer isn’t to punish us - the answer is demand the Devs give us all back the superior progression system!

 

The reason I think there absolutely  has to be a reset is simple really. It will give everyone in the beginning a level playing field and a clean slate to start on. Sure, those who get themselves shekels and pay to gain an advantage, they will level faster than most people but I think if we’re to expect the playerbase to increase everyone has to feel like they have a fighting chance.

Everyone do have a fighting chance. Although matchmaking is not fixed tier, newbs still play with other newbs in t1 while pros play in t3 and above.

A reset would mean all the pros playing in t1 and farming newbs with their superior knowledge and skill every single game.

 

 

just the balancing in matchmaking is way off and the wait times are ridiculous.

And that is because of the lack of playerbase. With more players, the matchmaking system can find more pilots of similar skill and reduce wait time significantly.

 

 

but do you really have to grind out the ships?

Most of the long-time forum warriors  here started back before the synergy change. And I am sure the majority of us can agree that synergy change is probably the worst change ever done to this game. It increased the grind tenfold from what was once a great progression. I can not imagine myself getting to my current position with this increased synergy grind, increased loyalty grind, and increased credit grind. In short, I (and many other veteran players) would quit.

 

The problem is not with us veterans getting a faster progression.

The problem is with devs purposefully throwing away a great progression system in favor of a more grindy and boring one.

 

so the first people to T5 cannot dominate (as is happening right now if I am not mistaken?).

Although more advanced gear do play a role in the outcome of combat, majority of the deciding factor lies with skill, knowledge and teamwork.

ESB have been known to recruit only the best pilots, even without their equipment superiority, they would still dominate sector conquest.

I dont even know how this thread is still alive, theres no such way for this to work without pissing off all the comunity and make everyone start advertising against this game if wipe comes to happen. Lets just ignore this stupid idea and live on.

I’m writing here just in case any dev would bump in this thread thinking: … hey look…Some players want a full wipe/reset…we shpuld think about it…"

 

OK simply… dear devs do not event think about that!!!

Personally, wipe of my stats would be nice. Like keep everything the same, just reset my W/L ratio, SR, and other revalant stats. 

But keep my ships, my synergy, money, etc. 

 

Stats, sure, wipe them.

 

Then I can finally have a crappy SR rating, but be in large battles. 

Then I can finally have a crappy SR rating, but be in large battles. 

Hahahaha, I knew it. All you want to do is tank your SR so you can fight the rookies and not face the higher Tiers on your own.

Personally, wipe of my stats would be nice. Like keep everything the same, just reset my W/L ratio, SR, and other revalant stats. 

But keep my ships, my synergy, money, etc. 

 

Stats, sure, wipe them.

 

Then I can finally have a crappy SR rating, but be in large battles. 

 

Try flying Imperial ships and stack lightweight hulls. 

 

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Hahahaha, I knew it. All you want to do is tank your SR so you can fight the rookies and not face the higher Tiers on your own.

 

I just hate long waiting times, as my skill is affecting it. Lower SR = lower Q times.