What is the point now, that synergy is required to unlock paid ships?
Why would anyone get a paid ship now? Credit cost? Lack of need for synergy leveling?
By promoting syn transfer, you basically just killed your entire paid line of ships…
no repair cost
You basically get free Synergy on Premium ships that you can transfer away to other ships. Paying said transfer with GS, ofc.
The game is basically telling you “Ok, you got this to Rank 6 Synergy, time to buy the next ship. No, don’t fly it again, what’re you doing! Well, ok. But you’re gonna have to pay to make use of that Synergy you got.”
or to put it more simply … you must now pay real money to take advantage of the grind you did …
I still say they should make it this way:
Once a ship reaches “elite” status, they produce only “free synergy” instead of the normal synergy. Sure this would get rid of the GS usage to get more free synergy, but this way you would not be penalized by using a ship after it has reached it potential.
Premium ships have lost a lot of their value due to this patch. I certainly wouldn’t waste my time buying any more of them.
The big lure of Premiums, to my mind, was they gave you immediate access to a ship that was top of the tier you wanted to fly, and a slightly increased income rate (due to no repairs). As such, you could fly your Premium, building up cash and experience, and then advance within your factions faster.
Now Premiums do not speed up advancement at all. If anything, they slow it down. This is unhelpful to everyone, especially given how cripplingly overpriced the transfer process is.
I think Premium ships should be handled one of two ways; first option, slot them into the ship tree. They start at 1 synergy like everything else, but they let you advance to other ships (ie: the Scout counts as a Dwarf 2 for the purposes of advancing up the Empire ship tree). This means you would still have to fly your Premiums and rank them up before you can advance further, but it does allow you to skip ahead and potentially bypass a lot of grind.
The second option is for all Synergy a Premium develops to be automatically, and without cost be converted into Free Synergy.
Premium ships have lost a lot of their value due to this patch. I certainly wouldn’t waste my time buying any more of them.
The big lure of Premiums, to my mind, was they gave you immediate access to a ship that was top of the tier you wanted to fly, and a slightly increased income rate (due to no repairs). As such, you could fly your Premium, building up cash and experience, and then advance within your factions faster.
Now Premiums do not speed up advancement at all. If anything, they slow it down. This is unhelpful to everyone, especially given how cripplingly overpriced the transfer process is.
I think Premium ships should be handled one of two ways; first option, slot them into the ship tree. They start at 1 synergy like everything else, but they let you advance to other ships (ie: the Scout counts as a Dwarf 2 for the purposes of advancing up the Empire ship tree). This means you would still have to fly your Premiums and rank them up before you can advance further, but it does allow you to skip ahead and potentially bypass a lot of grind.
The second option is for all Synergy a Premium develops to be automatically, and without cost be converted into Free Synergy.
I strongly agree with your 1st option, with the way current progress through synergy is, one of the best ways would be to incorporate prem ships into the tree which will lead to original purpose of prem ships =cut the grind for people that can pay to save time, and allow access to higher ships
Regarding 2d point i think it would not be wise to have an option like this, unless it is limited to the ships of the same Role within related tree branch, i do not believe that having an ability to freely transfer all freely generated synergy to ANY free ship is a right way to go
I got into the game with a purchase of mid range Steam pack with DE and a Superkite, i tried DE, figured it is not the right time to play t3, and moved into t1, then advanced into t2. While playing t2 and buying ships left and right but not really flying them i figured (at the time steams dlcs were on sale again) that it would be a good deal + huge time saver for buying another pack that came with more t3 ships, at that point i had 3 T3 ships that would cover most of my needs. Now it is time to start working on a progress towards T4 but i can not use my Prem ships for that, i have to start from T2 again and grind my way up, nullifying any of the progress i’ve made using DLC ships.
TL;DR Prem ships originally were designed as a grind savers and to be on a same “power” level as free ships back when i joined, unfortunately currently Prem ships do not serve this purpose anymore, not at all. And there is absolutely no incentive to buy another prem ships in higehr tiers
I got my first premium ship for repair costs, to save on credit grind a little. Now, the synergy costs money, so what’s the point? You want my money to say I know how to fly this ship? If I’d known this king of patch was coming, I would have never bought the galaxy explorer pack. “Free” synergy should be free to transfer!
It doesn’t look like I’m going to play any other empire ships than the Desert Eagle. It would take me a couple months to get up to T3!
I got my first premium ship for repair costs, to save on credit grind a little. Now, the synergy costs money, so what’s the point? You want my money to say I know how to fly this ship? If I’d known this king of patch was coming, I would have never bought the galaxy explorer pack. “Free” synergy should be free to transfer!
It doesn’t look like I’m going to play any other empire ships than the Desert Eagle. It would take me a couple months to get up to T3!
A good question, why does free synergy Cost money to transfer?
Its like, oh hey, you just bought an overpriced ship. NOW you have pay more money to unlock the next one if you use this ship.
Why would anyone ever do that?
I’m just astounded at how in attempt to try and gank our cash with synergy transfer, premium ships offer less than normal ships!
Its okay, i payed 50$ for the sai because its beautiful, and then realised that 5$ to transfer 195k synergy… which is like… 2/3’s of a t3 ships progress… ; ; i’ve flown it maybe an hour
Im really sure it’ll be changed to a more reasonable system, error and some of the devs have already noted it in other posts that they’re looking into it 
I’m just going to post this everywhere because this aspect of the game is my biggest pain point:
Premium Ships are in fact that… Premium
The definition of Premium is:
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A sum over and above a regular price paid chiefly as an inducement or incentive
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A high value or a value in excess of that normally or usually expected
As it stands right now, Premium Ships meet none of these definitions. I know this is a Russian game, but surely Premium must bear the same or relative meaning that it does most anywhere else in the world. Cultural context for a word like Premium cannot differ that much between cultures. So for those that purchased a DLC pack or a Premium ship, that expense right there should mean that anything to that point should be considered ‘paid in full’. Otherwise, what value does any DLC or Premium Ship actually hold (big whoop that there is no repair cost, at this point, people can’t bring themselves to get to Synergy level 9 with a ship they hate playing, so what good is ‘no repair cost’ for someone losing interest altogether)? Money really hasn’t been an issue anyway. If you play properly and level up Loyalty for each sub faction, then the money comes, and you have adequately equipped ships as you play.
I have offered my suggestions on other threads, but I will continue posting my thoughts everywhere I can:
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Allow Premium Ships to transfer Synergy for free and Credit Ships to transfer Synergy for Gold
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Allow Premium Ships to transfer Synergy for Credits and allow Credit Ships to transfer Synergy for Gold
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Allow Premium Ships to transfer Synergy for free up to their Tier of ships (so a T3 ship would be able transfer its Synergy to any other ship up to T3 and so on)
If they are going to contemplate integrating Premium Ships in to the current ship tree, my only concern is that they are going to say that Premium Ships can only pass along that Synergy to ships within that tree. I also feel like if they do that, they’re going to either:
A) Continue charging Gold to transfer it
B) Say that the Synergy can only be transferred to ships up to it’s current level in that tree
My problem with that is, I don’t want to play any of those other ships in the tree…it’s why I bought the Premium Ship in the first place. What good is transferring Synergy to a ship I’m not going to use do for me?
I would just like for the Dev’s to make it aware the affects the next patch is going to have on the game up front this time, rather than just doing it one Thursday and everyone reading the patch notes the following day. Honestly, had I known up front they were going to make the changes they did, I never would have purchased a DLC pack. What would have been the point? It’s the whole reason all of us are here debating what the next course of action will be. They should allow their player base to make a decision before hand, because if 1 of the 2 options comes down, I might as well just walk away now and save myself further heartache. At the end of the day, there should be no further expenditure of Gold on top of a Gold bought ship. That should be enough. You want my Gold, you want me to spend money, then you need to start thinking about things like customization of ships, or monthly DLC downloads of like a ship a month. Shoot even map packs that can be purchased with Gold is fine by me. Nickel and diming your player base just so they can level up their ships makes them lose interest, because honestly, it’s just too damn grindy. Your strategy for acquiring money is just really really poor and could be much better thought out. I’ve already seen similar posts to the last few things I have offered, so obviously your player base would spend the money.
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Customization pack (similar to the DLC packs, but say you charge like $20-$30 and you get a full palate of colors and stickers to customize your ships with. Any changes would be permanent until you made further changes or reset it to default).
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Map packs (offer bonus PVE missions with special incentives like plus 1 loot or 10% extra Synergy or Credits when running the map)
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Monthly ship releases (1 ship a month maybe with like 1000-1500 GS, or even a week of premium subscription for like $10)
I understand you are trying to run a business, and I understand you want to make money, I do, and I respect that. I want to support that. Not like this though. What you guys are doing is just wrong. So many of us are loyal enough that we have toughed it out, but how much longer do you think a lot of us have? If you really don’t care about that, then you just don’t care, and I good luck to you. New games come and go, and you are just 1 game in a haystack of them. I see the posts on Steam too, and they are less than stellar if you ask me. It also doesn’t help that you lock the threads there. I understand you want people to come to the official forums to voice their opinions, but you should also be concerned about people perusing through the Store looking for something new. Would you not think it throws up a red flag for people when they go to read how the game is making some questionable decisions, coupled with the fact that people cannot even respond on those threads?
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I can’t seem to find another place to spend Gold from location reward and poll/tutorial.
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It’s very nice to purchase the Rank 13 Mauler when it’s on 60% off sale even for a rookie that just started the game since it can earn you massive credits and free synergy.
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Maybe… we have a job and can afford a DLC pack from a game we love which costs cheaper than a movie ticket…? Hmm.
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Some premium ship are OP, like the new Experimental heavy gunship Mauler.
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No repair cost yay? Blow yourself up using self-destruct on a interceptor as many time as you want in pvp…
I can’t seem to find another place to spend Gold from location reward and poll/tutorial.
It’s very nice to purchase the Rank 13 Mauler when it’s on 60% off sale even for a rookie that just started the game since it can earn you massive credits and free synergy.
Maybe… we have a job and can afford a DLC pack from a game we love which costs cheaper than a movie ticket…? Hmm.
Some premium ship are OP, like the new Experimental heavy gunship Mauler.
No repair cost yay? Blow yourself up using self-destruct on a interceptor as many time as you want in pvp…
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Some ships are very worth the expenditure, trust me.
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Not as much as Pirate DLC ships.
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They still have to make money. The downside is that they believe money comes from packs, not micro-transactions. Packs are limited supply, micro-transactions aren’t.
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Mauler is OP in PvE. There’s about half a dozen Premium ships that are OP in PvP, Mauler ain’t one of them.
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And then you have to wait 2-3 minutes to respawn. WAY TO HELP YOUR TEAM, YAY!
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thread necro.