Now they have done it r1 vs r15 is now a standard matchup. This is getting out of hand!
1 hour ago, SunnySweet said:
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I’m really against hot joining, it makes games even more unbalanced.
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I assume who is Grumpy Gus in English forum.
Since he is not active here in past few days, guess he has a lot of newbies to kill.
Hot join is ok it helps lower wait times a lot and gives more reward per time spent in game
Grumpy Gus is a fictional figure – there will be no one player one could assume to have recognized as sole matching the characteristic of this fictional character introdúced with a rather genial satire many years ago …
1 hour ago, Flash0914 said:
Now they have done it r1 vs r15 is now a standard matchup. This is getting out of hand!
No - honestly cant confirm this from PvP a lot lately … I would admit that mm is a bit more ‘experimental’ , though
1 hour ago, SunnySweet said:
Ok, I will try to explain.
Koro and MaxV are only two decent players, Shazlenla plays just long range gunships. Usually, spark with auto-aim weapon or like in this case Orelius + Focusing laser so no way that he will cap since he is 6+km away from becon.
Ships composition was indeed wrong in Koro team.
I don’t agree that he has better team.
More decent players in opposite team.
To make it even more clear, more players that know what to do in domination in opposite team.
That last one corresponds to the “bad composition” argument ”) There were no fast cappers nor even tacklers in Koro’s team. Gunships? Commands? Enemy team had one frigate in total.
And I’m just saying about stats, not actual brain power, Sunny ”) MM cannot go into the brain of the players and assign them to other teams accordingly. It can only detect patterns.
1 hour ago, Flash0914 said:
Now they have done it r1 vs r15 is now a standard matchup. This is getting out of hand!
It is actually not. You cannot even click PvP if you are not rank 5 or above. You can get a PvP game earlier only if you squad with someone that can launch into PvP and you have to do it on purpose. No newbie will do that. Also Nefalem proved what T1 ship can do in R15 battle. Sorry mate. Ranks are only ranks now, they don’t define better pilot.
34 minutes ago, niripas said:
It is actually not. You cannot even click PvP if you are not rank 5 or above. You can get a PvP game earlier only if you squad with someone that can launch into PvP and you have to do it on purpose. No newbie will do that. Also Nefalem proved what T1 ship can do in R15 battle. Sorry mate. Ranks are only ranks now, they don’t define better pilot.
Oh now that’s fair? An elite killing machine costing dozens of millions is now equal to a piece of scrap literally costing 0 to purchase and arm? WHY EVEN?
Besides i never claimed that r1 players can play against r15 but SHIPS. And no lower ranks are still worse than high ranks… just because a random (pro?) manages to do well in a r1 ship doesn’t mean the guys who’d usally play a r1 ship would do. You are making terrible examples here. Of course a guy knowing what to do would beat a newB in any ship matchup.
26 minutes ago, niripas said:
That last one corresponds to the “bad composition” argument ”) There were no fast cappers nor even tacklers in Koro’s team. Gunships? Commands? Enemy team had one frigate in total.
yep I know
26 minutes ago, niripas said:
And I’m just saying about stats, not actual brain power, Sunny ”) MM cannot go into the brain of the players and assign them to other teams accordingly. It can only detect patterns.
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Sure that is true what you say also it is true that stats can be twisted in PvP due to the league teams since league count as regular PvP as well.
We have many mediocre players that can have good w/l ratio due to League and Dreadnault but in regular PvP where they have to play alone, they su ck.
26 minutes ago, niripas said:
It is actually not. You cannot even click PvP if you are not rank 5 or above. You can get a PvP game earlier only if you squad with someone that can launch into PvP and you have to do it on purpose. No newbie will do that. Also Nefalem proved what T1 ship can do in R15 battle. Sorry mate. Ranks are only ranks now, they don’t define better pilot.
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Not true my friend, these two screenshots are from yesterday, poor guy had just one PvP game before he was massacred in this game.
54 minutes ago, avarshina said:
Hot join is ok it helps lower wait times a lot and gives more reward per time spent in game
This is your opinion or opinion of Grumpy Gus that you have to defend?
Hot joining is not OK.
The only thing that hot joining improve is waiting time everything else is worse and much harder to balance than when you have full teams from start.
Yes, we get more lot by hot joining but lot is not exactly good recently or something that is more important than balanced game.
I would rather have more balanced close games then this hot joining and this kind of loot.
But of course, this is just my opinion and opinion of all players that I play with on TS.
I don’t play with developers or have an influence on them like Grumpy Gus have.
54 minutes ago, avarshina said:
Grumpy Gus is a fictional figure
This is what you believe and say or Grumpy Gus tells you?
54 minutes ago, avarshina said:
– there will be no one player one could assume to have recognized as sole matching the characteristic of this fictional character introdúced with a rather genial satire many years ago …
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I can do it 
but not to worry I don’t think that you are Grumpy Gus.
Wait, so now people have problems with ships that cost less than others but can have the same or even better performance? What about back when destroyers and Ellydium ships were freshly released? At the start they were powerful, but people didn’t stop until they got brought down on par with standard ships, and now some of their characteristics are even worse, one example, Tai’Kin’s beacon cap speed is lower even than the one of a regular recon, you actually need a node that increases it by 15%, the base amount being 10%, make up your mind, its no surprise developers don’t even listen to you, you keep pulling them in all directions and they have no idea what you really want, thus they won’t able to satisfy anyone.
Also, that Grumpy Gus joke has now been beaten down the ground and below, first of all you just necroed it, brought it back to life and killed it again over the span of a few days, this tread turned from matchmaking feedback to constantly jabbing at it and expecting things to magically fix and become perfection itself, I’m sorry but you either get on some serious feedback, or this tread might as well be closed and leave the russian community to speak for us.
42 minutes ago, SunnySweet said:
Not true my friend, these two screenshots are from yesterday, poor guy had just one PvP game before he was massacred in this game.
Check for yourself - create a new account and try to launch into pvp. You can’t unless you squad up with someone who is already R5 or higher.
23 minutes ago, niripas said:
Check for yourself - create a new account and try to launch into pvp. You can’t unless you squad up with someone who is already R5 or higher.
Even if you are correct and if this is case of what happened here it is highly unbalanced to match him (them) against Neytron and MaxVerzila.
this was the start of game,
two veterans in squad against two newbies.
This is not exactly balance or am I wrong here?
I was just hot-joining with that NASA player.
15 minutes ago, SunnySweet said:
Even if you are correct and if this is case of what happened here it is highly unbalanced to match him (them) against Neytron and MaxVerzila.
this was the start of game,
two veterans in squad against two newbies.
This is not exactly balance or am I wrong here?
I was just hot-joining with that NASA player.
two newbies? One account is older than yours. The real question is why that person was playing from inside of virtual machine. Sorry Sunny, for me it looks like someone was trying something - like testing if he can squad with a newly created account and get into an easy games. This is not a behaviour of a newbie.
Well balance in the game (coming from a new account) is now based on your skill previous to joining PvP at R5. So basically if you are always on top of the score in your first 5 ranks of PvAI, you will be pitted against the highest players in PvP.
It is truly skill based now.
Only way I can see to fix it is to purposefully perform badly so that your score is reduced.
7 minutes ago, niripas said:
The real question is why that person was playing from inside of virtual machine
A way to circumvent the account limit on computers without sacrificing too much. Just savestate a vm and load as many accounts on it as you want.
ahaha : ) very funny link, thank you SunnySweet 
54 minutes ago, SheenShade said:
ahaha : ) very funny link, thank you SunnySweet 
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Yes at first I thought same as you, that this is funny until I didn’t realize that this is just happening in front of our eyes.
Suddenly it was not so funny anymore.
1 hour ago, niripas said:
two newbies? One account is older than yours. The real question is why that person was playing from inside of virtual machine. Sorry Sunny, for me it looks like someone was trying something - like testing if he can squad with a newly created account and get into an easy games. This is not a behaviour of a newbie.
You can make excuse and statement as you like, but the fact is that one of those two had just one game played before he got in the real world.
Even if he was in squad with me he should not be allowed to play against anyone.
2 hours ago, xXThunderFlameXx said:
Wait, so now people have problems with ships that cost less than others but can have the same or even better performance? What about back when destroyers and Ellydium ships were freshly released? At the start they were powerful, but people didn’t stop until they got brought down on par with standard ships, and now some of their characteristics are even worse, one example, Tai’Kin’s beacon cap speed is lower even than the one of a regular recon, you actually need a node that increases it by 15%, the base amount being 10%, make up your mind, its no surprise developers don’t even listen to you, you keep pulling them in all directions and they have no idea what you really want, thus they won’t able to satisfy anyone.
Also, that Grumpy Gus joke has now been beaten down the ground and below, first of all you just necroed it, brought it back to life and killed it again over the span of a few days, this tread turned from matchmaking feedback to constantly jabbing at it and expecting things to magically fix and become perfection itself, I’m sorry but you either get on some serious feedback, or this tread might as well be closed and leave the russian community to speak for us.
+1
2 hours ago, SunnySweet said:
Yes at first I thought same as you, that this is funny until I didn’t realize that this is just happening in front of our eyes.
Suddenly it was not so funny anymore.
You can make excuse and statement as you like, but the fact is that one of those two had just one game played before he got in the real world.
Even if he was in squad with me he should not be allowed to play against anyone.
And you still on it. So what is your suggestion? Block squads in T1? Or implement some mechanism that will not allow squad leader to press launch if there is a guy not meeting the requirements?
Hmmm… Actually if you make a bug report that someone circumvented the R5 requirement it will catch the attention.
My statements and excuses? Mate, normal newbie that didn’t reach R5 cannot launch pvp by himself. It has to be done by a person that knows exactly what is he doing and as I said before - MM cannot be a cure for stupidity. And the fact is what I said before - normal players are not using virtual machines to play Star Conflict and not trying to circumvent the limits.
3 hours ago, TheDarkRedFox said:
Well balance in the game (coming from a new account) is now based on your skill previous to joining PvP at R5. So basically if you are always on top of the score in your first 5 ranks of PvAI, you will be pitted against the highest players in PvP.
It is truly skill based now.
Only way I can see to fix it is to purposefully perform badly so that your score is reduced.
Are you assuming or actually have you tried it? I did try it and I had to be really awful player then as I saw not a one person from the top players in my pvp games on my new account on different computer.
2 hours ago, SunnySweet said:
Yes at first I thought same as you, that this is funny until I didn’t realize that this is just happening in front of our eyes.
Suddenly it was not so funny anymore.
yes, and that’s why i don’t do pvp anymore : )
just to avoid ragequit… forever
1 hour ago, niripas said:
Are you assuming or actually have you tried it? I did try it and I had to be really awful player then as I saw not a one person from the top players in my pvp games on my new account on different computer.
I actually tried it.
2 hours ago, niripas said:
And you still on it. So what is your suggestion? Block squads in T1? Or implement some mechanism that will not allow squad leader to press launch if there is a guy not meeting the requirements?
Hmmm… Actually if you make a bug report that someone circumvented the R5 requirement it will catch the attention.
My statements and excuses? Mate, normal newbie that didn’t reach R5 cannot launch pvp by himself. It has to be done by a person that knows exactly what is he doing and as I said before - MM cannot be a cure for stupidity. And the fact is what I said before - normal players are not using virtual machines to play Star Conflict and not trying to circumvent the limits.
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Well you have more solutions here;
1.) MM should match just squads that have equal stats
2.) Remove squads and make separate PvP just for them, again equally powerful squads should be matched on each side.
3.) Remove squads from PvP and let them play League and Dreds
Since I don’t have a lot of fate in MM recently, for now, I would go for solution 2 or 3
1 hour ago, SheenShade said:
yes, and that’s why i don’t do pvp anymore : )
just to avoid ragequit… forever
Well, I’m PvP ho.e, what can I do for it. 
For me, PvE is boring, once you learn it is always same. 