Tackler drones

I suggest to nerf tackler drones, it could be HP or damages (or both), because i think no module should be able to annihilate any ennemy. Plus you recenlty choose to switch heavy drones damages to EM. Now you’re sure that even a guard can’t defend properly again a tackler.

I also saw that a very high part of players are using tacklers, nerfing them would be a great way to balance ship use.

I also think that ships that are specialized in 1vs1 should be interceptors (that’s why they are called “interceptors”), so I don’t see why tacklers are so powerfull alone when it should be a support ship.

the balance of every module is reviewed regulary and currents it is not required

 

We will consider your input on the next review

I also think that ships that are specialized in 1vs1 should be interceptors (that’s why they are called “interceptors”), so I don’t see why tacklers are so powerfull alone when it should be a support ship.

Because Tacklers are supposed to hunt down interceptors…

I don’t think you realize how much of an advantage interceptors already enjoy with their reduced explosion damage and objective capture bonuses.

the balance of every module is reviewed regulary and currents it is not required

 

We will consider your input on the next review

I don’t know how the review is going but the process should be bad if you don’t see the problem.

The tackler drones are OP in T5, the drones makes too much damage and it has no spread.

The problem is not the damage, the problem is the spread. The drones has no spread so they are just autoaim weapons what can hit you even the tacker is on the other side of the map. I guess you can’t measure how many times the drones interrupted a beacon capture.

I have a guess since from the data they saw the tackler drones are too strong against beacon drones, they buffed the beacon drones. Now the interceptors what suppose to be able to take the beacons not even can go close to them.

 

The point is , when the drones are so strong, why is nobody playing with them? When i think about the Top 100 Players, there is one-one of 100-that is using Tackler as his main ship in T5, that is Approx. And he is not making his kills with the drone mostly. If there is any other player who relies on tacklers and i am not aware of, tell me, i dont now of anybody.

 

Good playeers in that game? Nightmare, summit, Vortex, Siegfried, Kostyan, usw…i dont see any tacklers here. No tacker no tackler drones…have not seen Takamina owining da game with tacker drones recently…i also seem to have kinda forgotten da tackler spam in SecCon cuz da drones are so OP…but whoo we will likely see a lotta tacklers now in dread battles now that the OPness of da drones is so well known…

 

I short, da drones are not OP. U need them to defend against incoming COvOps, without em u d be toast any time and they work only half da time at best. Even i , and i am terrible CovOps pilot would think it possible to just kill da stupid tackler with Web and Orion befor its drone gets me…

I think lowering the projectile speed of the small sentry drone ever so slightly so interceptors have a chance at dodging while high speed maneuvering would help fix the problem.  The drones shouldn’t be able to hit an interceptor doing ridiculous dodging with ease.  But, it should still be able to hit them if the tackler is slowing the interceptor somewhat.  That will force tacklers to actually slow enemies instead of poop and run. 

 

Personally, I think the large sentry is fine the way it is.  Frigs can’t tank everything…

 

If anything, I’d like to see a suggestion that yeahalex suggested awhile back about guard’s pulsars hitting drones and repair stations.  This would really help in those games where everyone seems to have attack drones and sentry drones.

Guards already have destructor for that. Plus heavy drones can still be dodged by frigates unless they get too close to it.

 

One thing I will say about drones is that they sometimes get bumped by the tackler, and start drifting. Next thing you know they teleported back to their original position and are stationary…

 

Good playeers in that game? Nightmare, summit, Vortex, Siegfried, Kostyan, usw…i dont see any tacklers here. No tacker no tackler drones…have not seen Takamina owining da game with tacker drones recently…i also seem to have kinda forgotten da tackler spam in SecCon cuz da drones are so OP…but whoo we will likely see a lotta tacklers now in dread battles now that the OPness of da drones is so well known…

 

I short, da drones are not OP. U need them to defend against incoming COvOps, without em u d be toast any time and they work only half da time at best. Even i , and i am terrible CovOps pilot would think it possible to just kill da stupid tackler with Web and Orion befor its drone gets me…

 

Those players simply don’t need silly drones to makes kills. They use experience, skill and combat awareness, something not so easy to achieve when you just sit all the time at miles away from combat shooting with long range weapons with your autofire drones next to you. In few words they want to win, not only being in higher position in the weekly leader boards, well apart Takamina OC

 

You can’t dodge autofire from drones if you are dogfithing with another guy, that’s when the tackler shows up, poop the drones, slow you down not even shooting: and go away. He didn’t shoot once but he killeds you… in a SHOOTER game…

 

P.s. Summit use it, also you are forgetting about a guy called NERW that every time get killed in his mauler or golden eagle switch to the tackler (at that point just switch to ecm, he loves it believe me)

Drones are not op.

Drones are not op.

Ask your CEO :smiley:

Drones are not op.

The small drone is pretty OP against interceptors.  Especially Fed ones who have been slowed (no adaptives).

Those players simply don’t need silly drones to makes kills. They use experience, skill and combat awareness, something not so easy to achieve when you just sit all the time at miles away from combat shooting with long range weapons with your autofire drones next to you. In few words they want to win, not only being in higher position in the weekly leader boards, well apart Takamina OC

 

Hehe got me there…

 

Forgot NERW. NERW doest rely on drones though…but i get ur point. If u are a real good Inty pilot u can evade so well that normal players cant hit u and still attack. Drone prevents that…but lets face reality ur scenario is very rare.

 

Rarely a tackler will just close in to u dogfighting and just pop da drone, most will try to actually slow u down and hit u. Then u will pop multi and run away, out of drone range. I would do it because even when an Inti is evading like hell u still have a chance to hit it even as a mediocre player. If u rely on drone u have to just get too close and thats a high risk for my playstyle. Apprrox who is closing in woud also kill u with gun no matter ur evade…

 

So a tackler pilot who is acting like dat is an idiot cuz he is wasting to much ressources flying to u dogfighting poppind da drone and flying off again. great risk for it also to fly into another ship and diedie. So be happy da drone exists u win more battles so. 

Ask your CEO :smiley:

He did not become a CEO for his balance knowledge, but for his restless hard work and dedication! 

He did not become a CEO for his balance knowledge, but for his restless hard work and dedication! 

My world collapsed :frowning:

Hehe got me there…

 

Forgot NERW. NERW doest rely on drones though…but i get ur point. If u are a real good Inty pilot u can evade so well that normal players cant hit u and still attack. Drone prevents that…but lets face reality ur scenario is very rare.

 

Rarely a tackler will just close in to u dogfighting and just pop da drone, most will try to actually slow u down and hit u. Then u will pop multi and run away, out of drone range. I would do it because even when an Inti is evading like hell u still have a chance to hit it even as a mediocre player. If u rely on drone u have to just get too close and thats a high risk for my playstyle. Apprrox who is closing in woud also kill u with gun no matter ur evade…

 

So a tackler pilot who is acting like dat is an idiot cuz he is wasting to much ressources flying to u dogfighting poppind da drone and flying off again. great risk for it also to fly into another ship and diedie. So be happy da drone exists u win more battles so. 

 

That’s not so rare, also NERW do poop his drone every time he dogfight. Btw i’m not concerned about drones being OP, much more concerned about the fact that they are “cheap” and no skill, also the “u win more battle” it’s not true at all since i try to play for the team and if the team are almost all tacklers i already know i’ve lost the match.

before you go to sleep…check under your bed for possible drones… muehehe

That is unecessay since drones cannot shoot through obstacles.

i don’t find them op, but I mention again, removing their ability to take out beacon-drones by themselves would reduce the amount of abuse greatly in higher tiers. they should not be used to take out all drones on a beacon.

 

also, the small drone never had spread, afaik, it was the big one.

 

That’s not so rare, also NERW do poop his drone every time he dogfight. Btw i’m not concerned about drones being OP, much more concerned about the fact that they are “cheap” and no skill, also the “u win more battle” it’s not true at all since i try to play for the team and if the team are almost all tacklers i already know i’ve lost the match.

 

hm, the cheap argument is however hard to judge. it’s like with mines, some people just put out the mine somewhere (actually they create a private minefield most usually), hope you run into it, others trick you with careful lying laying, a sentry drone planted with the right timing and angle, to trick the enemy to avoid your main gun but run into the drone, still needs skill and practice, believe me. popping the drone once you as tackler are 7km or sth away from it still sounded like an adequate solution imho, since at least it would punish cruise pooping.

 

I do agree, that it is quite annoying if overused, and of course, a seasoned tackler would not use it as his main weapon - i guess maybe my drone on my katana does 10% of the killing at best - but I also don’t think, the rant should be about seasoned players which abuse the mechanic.

it might also help, if the sentry drone actually has to lock you (even if it is an insta lock), so you are aware of something targeting you, or a similar icon for drone hazard, like to missile warning icon maybe, with a small audio effect, since humans react faster to sound, than to visual input, and it might help in a dogfight. (I do not mean another ongoing beep beep, just some short static sound with a drone theme once you are in range of drones), which only displays, if there are no missiles locked on you)

That is unecessay since drones cannot shoot through obstacles.

If that’s a problem, the tackler who used them doesn’t know how to position drones.

 

Destructor isn’t OP if you only shoot at walls, and yet…

If that’s a problem, the tackler who used them doesn’t know how to position drones.

 

 

Yeah next time poop your drone on the night table, not under the bed You tackler N00B!