It’s a temporary measure, the devs need to know how strong T5s are in real fights on live server, so they put them in the same queue as T4. The same thing happened in past with T4: usually T4 ships were balanced only to another T4 and never to T3, so on T4 you had to wait 10-15 min in queue until it would find you a proper opponent, but after big patches with major changes T4 were put to T3’s queue for collecting statistics. The devs’ idea was to create fights where all the tiers would be mixed up, and every ship would have it’s own role in fight. Ideal fight is a fight where each side has a couple of higher rank tiers (T4-T5), main battle force consisting of many middle-ranks (T3) and several T2s. In that fight T4 or T5 is a strong ship and a fierce opponent, but it might get killed by coordinated attack of several lower rank ships. Those ideal fights will be affordable only after the game becomes more popular and more players stay in queue. While we’re playing beta with hardly 2000 ppl online, all we can do is stop whining and start testing the existing system, sending our feedback to the devs. So don’t be mad at ESB flying their T5 - someone just has to fly higher ranks and has to show how strong T5’s are in real fights.
I guess this comes from T5 pilot, not T2 or 3.
It is easy to see it that way when you play either fair matches of farm matches. Being farmed and get your time wasted for 1K loyalty per match = 10 min and next LL requires 180K is not fun at all.
The moment they mix T1 with T5 I am uninstalling the game.
That is a horrible idea and I hope they never do it
You’ve got to remember that isn’t the worst thing.
They’re planning on only allowing you to use ships of one race. They also claimed they made race less important with the removal of starting race. These conflict each other. I firmly believe the devs have no idea what they’re doing, plain and simple.
As someone who flown R10s vs R15s and kicked ESB squad xxxx with hilarious numbers in R11 castor while being the captain, and got my xxxx handed to me while flying my R15 ships by R10 randoms who outplayed me I would like to offer a different look on the effects of power differential in top tiers. As a result of aforementioned experiences (and many others) I don’t think that mixing T4 and T5 is bad. Power difference is there, but it’s much smaller than that between T2 and T3 and can be mostly compensated with play skill. I am currently leveling jericho ECMs at R12, and I have little problems dealing with R15 ships. Yes, they have that annoying R14 implant and their cooldowns reset if randoms suicide on them, but it’s not a game winner by any stretch of imagination.
What is bad on the other hand, is the game’s MM behavior with squads. I made a NASA squad in off time as a couple of ESB folks routinely do and we tried farming about a week ago. It was easy to the point where I could have been getting a xxxx xxx while playing and we’d still steamroll the opposition. My problem was that I have a conscience, and I couldn’t stop feeling guilty about steamrolling random people with no hope of them winning whatsoever. We lasted for less than dozen games before guilt and boredom became overwhelming, while illusion of play skill being tied to win ratio became very much dispelled for all of us.
In a way, parallax’s current “head in the sand” emu-like behavior on state of top tiers in off-peak times reminds me of the old russian joke about a chukcha who was sawing a branch on which he was sitting. In the end, branch will break and again no one will fly T4 or T5. And we’ll have ESB folks sitting on the ground next to that branch, complaining about butthurt on how terrible it is that there is no action in top tiers. Well gee, maybe you shouldn’t have sawed that branch from under yourself in the first place?
Imho best solution would have been squad segregation into its own MM queue to the point where 4 man squad cannot be assigned to a game without another similar squad assigned to the other side. And with low populace moments, queue should ask if you “want to separate into 2v2 with randoms on both sides”. That way games in top tiers would actually get interesting and more people would flock to them - in turn causing less of those 4v4 and 5v5 games that piss off everyone, except for ESB’s farm squad members.
Of course this will never happen as that would effectively destroy the win ratios of most ESB players within weeks. And that would also make win ratio mean something other than “I farmed randoms with a full squad in 4v4 matches for a long time”.
Imho best solution would have been squad segregation into its own MM queue to the point where 4 man squad cannot be assigned to a game without another similar squad assigned to the other side. And with low populace moments, queue should ask if you “want to separate into 2v2 with randoms on both sides”. That way games in top tiers would actually get interesting and more people would flock to them - in turn causing less of those 4v4 and 5v5 games that piss off everyone, except for ESB’s farm squad members.
Of course this will never happen as that would effectively destroy the win ratios of most ESB players within weeks. And that would also make win ratio mean something other than “I farmed randoms with a full squad in 4v4 matches for a long time”.
I support this whole heartedly.
I would rather have ESB + 8 vs 12 than 4 vs 4 Kings. I don’t want to make Kings seem bad, but some of their squads don’t excel even though some do.
WHO CHANGED THE TITLE OF THIS TOPIC!!! THAT’S NOT WHAT I MEAN WHEN I WRITE THIS TOPIC!!!
MY ORIGINAL TITLE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ESB TEAM NEITHER THEIR T5 SQUAD.
I LIKE TO PLAY WITH THEM BUT JUST DON’T KNOW WHY I WAS MUTED AND BANNED FROM THE CHAT.
Now I am quite confused about the reason whoever changed the title of my topic. If you wanna making trouble between us you will not succeed.
I have been playing starconflict with the ESB squads from the very beginning. Although I cannot say we are friends but I consider they are honorable opponents. (My fly style was influenced by b2d, akb and some old esb elite pilots and I appreciate them for that.)
WHOEVER CHANGED MY TITLE PLS CHANGE IT BACK. I DON’T WANT GIVE PEOPLE THE WRONG IDEA OF WHAT IT SHOULD BE.
WHO CHANGED THE TITLE OF THIS TOPIC!!! THAT’S NOT WHAT I MEAN WHEN I WRITE THIS TOPIC!!!
MY ORIGINAL TITLE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ESB TEAM NEITHER THEIR T5 SQUAD.
I LIKE TO PLAY WITH THEM BUT JUST DON’T KNOW WHY I WAS MUTED AND BANNED FROM THE CHAT.
Now I am quite confused about the reason whoever changed the title of my topic. If you wanna making trouble between us you will not succeed.
I have been playing starconflict with the ESB squads from the very beginning. Although I cannot say we are friends but I consider they are honorable opponents. (My fly style was influenced by b2d, akb and some old esb elite pilots and I appreciate them for that.)
WHOEVER CHANGED MY TITLE PLS CHANGE IT BACK. I DON’T WANT GIVE PEOPLE THE WRONG IDEA OF WHAT IT SHOULD BE.
They merged my thread with yours…keeping my thread title but giving ownership of it to you weirdly enough. I’m guessing because your initial post came first chronologically that’s why ownership was given to you.
They merged my thread with yours…keeping my thread title but giving ownership of it to you weirdly enough. I’m guessing because your initial post came first chronologically that’s why ownership was given to you.
Oh. didn’t notice that. I was just checking my topics and answers in the forum and notice this topic which I didn’t start.
