So I’m at a rank, where I couldn’t possibly purchase anything with the credits I have. So I decided to purchase something via standards, you know, support the game.
Problem is, that now everything via standards is purchased through rank.
Which you can’t level up anymore…
Sorry, what…
So basically if you weren’t rank _________ you can’t purchase it through standards. The only way to level up rank is to go back and synergy EVERYTHING.
Great.
Just great. Thanks devs, killed your own game.
So glad I got to a decent Rank before this patch for each faction. I would be really upset if I had to play with a ship I really didn’t like, or grind it out with a sub par ship just to get to the next level. I agree with your sentiment that this was kind of a poor decision. If you are a new player, cool, doesn’t affect you. If you are a veteran player, doesn’t affect you. If you are one of the unfortunate players in the middle of the road hovering around T2/T3, well just kind of sucks.
Just great. Thanks devs, killed your own game.
they killed it for me that’s for sure… having to buy ships I didn’t want to get to the ones I did was bad enough but now I have to level up the synergy too…no thanks…paying customer lost
they killed it for me that’s for sure… having to buy ships I didn’t want to get to the ones I did was bad enough but now I have to level up the synergy too…no thanks…paying customer lost
Yeah I’m going to just abandon this game till the next patch.
This new system hurts the paying customers(the only ones who actually support this game), and it hurts the normal players who don’t support it.
Idk what they were thinking honestly. WoT loses people daily thanks to their system, this one is almost worse because of how it was implemented after.
Just play PvE until everything’s sorted. Remember, singularity cannon is OP. One engi plus three fighters equals a win!
If that doesn’t wake them up, nothing else will. I’m tired of T4 loot, but it’s better than what I experienced yesterday.
Just play PvE until everything’s sorted. Remember, singularity cannon is OP. One engi plus three fighters equals a win!
If that doesn’t wake them up, nothing else will. I’m tired of T4 loot, but it’s better than what I experienced yesterday.
PVE shares no interest for me. I’d rather just play some old flying games than ever get into that.
I Still don’t understand, how the hell do i rank up to buy more ships?
They converted that into accumulating synergy on the ship for unlocking the next so you cant jump ships anymore. If i had known this patch id buy all the ships i could, had the credits.
So for example do you mean i need to get full Synergy on my Hawk-Eye to buy Hawk-M?
So for example do you mean i need to get full Synergy on my Hawk-Eye to buy Hawk-M?
Not full synergy, but some: the level required is mentioned as a number in the ship tree inside a “lock” symbol in the line that connects the ship to the next ship.
I have to agree 100% on this one.
The old grind was more in the background and didn’t force you into anything you didn’t like. No matter what ship you played you’d get ship progression.
Now you’re forced to play one specific ship to progress that line of ships, so naturally a lot of people will be playing with ships they don’t enjoy flying as much. If you fly fully upgraded ships, you must forfeit ship progression, or pay up to transfer experience. To those reading this as “I want everything for free”: I actually like to pay for the free to play games I play. But only things that adds things I like, not for things that ask me to remove annoyances built into the game for the sole purpose of being annoying unless you pay up.
I haven’t played before the synergy patch and would like to know what was better back then ?
I still don’t like the idea of having an elite ship and no point playing it since you are forced to use cash to convert its free synergy …that’s stupid…
Yeah I’m going to just abandon this game till the next patch.
This new system hurts the paying customers(the only ones who actually support this game), and it hurts the normal players who don’t support it.
Idk what they were thinking honestly. WoT loses people daily thanks to their system, this one is almost worse because of how it was implemented after.
Yep yep. So true. If you paid for this game, the Dev’s basically gave you the middle finger (I am included in this bunch). So basically, you bought a premium ship and you used that to grind for credits (pre 0.9 patch). Now, they want you to spend more GS to grind further. Basically the value of Gold increased, whereas the DLC packs where devalued by the patch, with NO compensation for that.
I haven’t played before the synergy patch and would like to know what was better back then ?
I still don’t like the idea of having an elite ship and no point playing it since you are forced to use cash to convert its free synergy …that’s stupid…
Basically the old system was called Reputation. You increased reputation for a faction, and you had the ability to buy any ship up to that faction rank (so if you were Reputation 12, you could buy any ship in any tree so long as you met this requirement).
My thoughts after a week of playing the new system:
You need to compensate those that are paying customers and those that use Premium Ships. You are going to lose a lot of people if this isn’t fixed. I already commented on this in another thread, but I will continue posting my thoughts anywhere I can. 1 of 2 things needs to happen:
I’m for option 1 as I feel as a person who purchased something in your game, I’ve done my part to support you. If you put more DLC packs on Sale, I would continue to support you. I’m basically sitting on a lot of synergy accrued on my premium ships right now, because I know the Dev’s care about their community, especially those that support them financially. I know they will rectify the situation and allow those that paid good money to continue supporting their game and allow all of us to continue having a great time. I know they will fix this system. Don’t let me be called a liar Dev’s.
I agree with Chino on this. If you buy a premium package, you should get some benefit out of it. Not another avenue for Gaijin to charge you more to use the item you purchased. Pretty crappy move on the part of them. I hope they are smart enough to rethink it. I have plenty of expendable income for games and I use it to have fun. I’ll be spending my cash elsewhere if this is the way they are going to run their business.
I bought the Merc pack, 50 bucks. I expect to be able to use the two ships without having to pay for the benefits of owning them. ridiculous.
I have zero problem using synergy to progress through the ship trees. I actually like it better. It keeps the rookies in the low tiers where they belong and lets you learn the mechanics before you jump tiers.
I haven’t really looked too deeply into it, but it seems like the free synergy that premium uses can be freely used to top off a level on another ship. I haven’t seen anything about it mentioned, but it seems to be the case. We’d need the devs to give details.
I agree with Chino on this. If you buy a premium package, you should get some benefit out of it. Not another avenue for Gaijin to charge you more to use the item you purchased. Pretty crappy move on the part of them. I hope they are smart enough to rethink it. I have plenty of expendable income for games and I use it to have fun. I’ll be spending my cash elsewhere if this is the way they are going to run their business.
I bought the Merc pack, 50 bucks. I expect to be able to use the two ships without having to pay for the benefits of owning them. ridiculous.
I have zero problem using synergy to progress through the ship trees. I actually like it better. It keeps the rookies in the low tiers where they belong and lets you learn the mechanics before you jump tiers.
I totally agree regarding the progression. I have gotten used to how it works, and I don’t mind it. Premium is premium though. So again, for the Dev’s:
PREMIUM
Definition 1 - A sum over and above a regular price paid chiefly as an inducement or incentive
Definition 2 - A high value or a value in excess of that normally or usually expected
Sadly, your DLC packs and your PREMIUM ships meet none of these definitions. In fact it is a hindrance to own these. I think you need to re-think the definition of PREMIUM. When you think of Antonyms for the word Premium, there are actually very few words that come to mind, however they seem more fitting for the current state of you ‘Premium’ ships and packages: INFERIOR.
I am not agree with the new progression system about the ships.
it is really very foolish force players to have to reach unacceptable levels of Synergy to switch from one ship to another even having to start from scratch if intent on changing the type of ship. I wait the next patch, if the system will not be changed definitely leave this game …
They aren’t unacceptable levels of of Synergy. Over the weekend I took a brand new Anaconda from 1-9 and got the Grizzly. Not to mention half way through the Prom X and a couple others. Granted that was with the 50% bonus, but factor that out. 3-4 days playing a ship to get the one following it? Nothing. Try spending weeks like we do in WoT to climb one tier. These tiers are progression based to keep people from just banging out a hangar full of T5 ships in 2 weeks. Deal with it or go find a game that caters to instant gratification.
If you have troubles gaining Synergy your doing something wrong. Rethink your game play to make sure your being effective in the match and not just fodder. You dont get much out of flying around and dying. With the bonus weekend I averaged about 9-13k Synergy a match. If I got below 9k, I know I botched up the match, made mistakes etc etc.
I like Synergy and how it works now. Yes, it takes a lot of time to Rank up but not near as long as it did before. I personally have maxed every ship in Tier 1 and Tier 2. It’s not a bad idea to max all your ships… it makes you a lot better player.
Just great. Thanks devs, killed your own game.
You are wrong though, they killed it already with 0.7.4 and even more with 0.8.0.
There were constant 4000+ players online every evening basicly during 0.7.3, then came 0.7.4 and they dropped but then came 0.8.0 and they dropped below the 2000 mark.