Haha, I knew it. All those here who defend gates camping are those who practice it.
You can still wait them just in front of the bubble. One day or another they will have to get out of that bubble if they want to do something.
A timer of 1 mn for the bubble then ?
If your team don’t come within the next minute, then it’s your fault anyway, so I don’t mind.
Haha, I knew it. All those here who defend gates camping are those who practice it.
Uhmm, No
Haha, I knew it. All those here who defend gates camping are those who practice it.
You can still wait them just in front of the bubble. One day or another they will have to get out of that bubble if they want to do something.
A timer of 1 mn for the bubble then ?
If your team don’t come within the next minute, then it’s your fault anyway, so I don’t mind.
Read my post again. Please. Once again, do you think I would have 4000 karma and almost 100 players killed in invasion doing gatecamp? Well, yes, but not the gate camp you think I do.
Read my post again. Please. Once again, do you think I would have 4000 karma and almost 100 players killed in invasion doing gatecamp? Well, yes, but not the gate camp you think I do.
Yup, my mistake. But then, you can get out of that bubble and kill those criminals !
Yup, my mistake. But then, you can get out of that bubble and kill those criminals !
With bubble, there won’t be criminals in a gate. They will kill you anyway, but they will change a bit their tactics.
When you are in a dangerous zone, you need to run, fight or bring friends. But crying for more babysitting is useless. You already have like 75% of the map safe!! You can switch stations just crossing two dangerous zones out of 12!!
You have invulnerability in all safe zones!!
If you want to kill pirates without other players interference, play scenarios, or stay in safe zones, but stop trying to make dangerous zones a theme park.
Is it your first game with FFA zones? Welcome, you have much to learn.
ok your attempts at insulting me are becoming pretty lame… 
If you go to the wrong neighbourhood, and wave your wallet in front of the wrong people, you will get a baseball bat in the face (or something worse)
metaphore with waving wallet misses every point. some people are so poor they cannot afford 200k to change station so they migrate ‘by foot’.
and you dont get hits in your face the second you go trough the door or when come to “wrong” neighborhood…they usualy stare at you and judge you. then they gather in 10v1 numbers and sorround you and beat the krapp out of you. that is the way of the ‘failed mutation of an ape’.
but… but what should we do when we cleaned our sensor range from players?
going near gate is best choice coz new most players stay near them…
btw Ambushes are boring >> you have to wait with entire squad in one place doing thing and praying for some poor pilot to show up it may take hours…
Making no pewpew zone near gate is stupid. If one team camp gate pilots with gather in this zone get moar pilots kill the 1st team and camp by themselves.
Another thing… what time to prepare? PvP sectors are simple FFA zones with bots If we get more safe time after jump it will just encourage running.
Kill squad will get his pray there is not much single player can do except jumping back to safe zones(those suck anyway)
PS most players don’t have problem with spawn camps coz they are rare at this stage of game(they called it release but development is at open beta lvl) and with current population.
Since beginning of Invasion I encountered only 2 wings that spawned gates(well on was partially for me coz I pissed some SRS guys), 2nd was just farming pve and killing pilots coz they were in way.
is owning everyone in normal PVP not enough for you tillo? how much more sacrifice do you hunger? btw…i think i meet those guys
sitinig on the gate is kinda same thing, waiting for hours and pray (eew…)
i think im done pollutin this thread. i dont really have a big problem with gate molesters, i just feel sorry for those brave enough to try and cross those sectors. doing something just because game allows it…well might as well start stuffing fingers in the ‘funny hole’ just for the sakes of ‘because you can!’ 
also true, that unprepared players shoudnt go there just because they can. no matter the perspective… some will always secretly defend their ability to be above others and if someone favors certain point of view it will always find arguments for it no matter if POW is logicaly broken or wrong.
ok your attempts at insulting me are becoming pretty lame…
metaphore with waving wallet misses every point. some people are so poor they cannot afford 200k to change station so they migrate ‘by foot’.
and you dont get hits in your face the second you go trough the door or when come to “wrong” neighborhood…they usualy stare at you and judge you. then they gather in 10v1 numbers and sorround you and beat the krapp out of you. that is the way of the ‘failed mutation of an ape’.
is owning everyone in normal PVP not enough for you tillo? how much more sacrifice do you hunger? btw…i think i meet those guys
sitinig on the gate is kinda same thing, waiting for hours and pray (eew…)
i think im done pollutin this thread. i dont really have a big problem with gate molesters, i just feel sorry for those brave enough to try and cross those sectors. doing something just because game allows it…well might as well start stuffing fingers in the ‘funny hole’ just for the sakes of ‘because you can!’
You know, calling people “molesters” because they just play a game in a way you don’t like is both an insult and borderline reportable. Molesters are a real world problem, and a really serious one. Using that term in game and forums is not the best idea.
But anyway, you just sound like the typical carebear complaining about this not being a theme park (even if around 80% of invasion is)
I think you don’t get the point of this thread.
We don’t blame PvP in invasion and 5vs1. We don’t blame being ganked by a wing just when we are under 50% hull.
What we blame is spawn kill because it’s a one-sided pleasure.
I find myself comfortable with killing players in invasion. Using Bios/Pirates to escape/kill a player is a part of invasion and what make it “fair”. But gate camp don’t. You can’t plan a defensive/offensive strategy in 10 seconds when you need half of that time look around you.
Maybe 20 seconds immune while you don’t move/shoot, followed by the current 10 seconds once you move ?
BTW, we should have much more PvP maps and PvP content in invasion such as karma allowing to ask police bots “Attack that -4 karma player”. We also need an UI to create squad. We need the possibility to challenge a player even on a protected map, where the player have to accept.
Right now invasion is clearly not finished and encourage players to flee when they see a player coming near them.
We need that PvP in invasion being as rewarding as the PvE part. For example some sided quests that ask you to kill players or defend them.
(self explainatory)
DARN IT!! YOU GOT ME!!
thanks for the input - fowarded to Devs
Definitely not. You have 7 seconds of immunity and that’s plenty of time. If you get pirated, squad with corpmates.
I definitely don’t think there should be a safe zone, but bumping the invincibility up a few seconds (or changing it to cloak, like EVE) wouldn’t hurt.
I’m in a frig, never hit a gate camp, but also never gone into the neutral zone area with it. Just the dangerous zones in Fed space. I’ve encountered guys sitting on a gate by themselves before, but haven’t had any trouble getting back to the gate before. Only time I’ve been killed was in New Eden when I blew up a red, which his friend apparently didn’t appreciate.
Hi,
I am new to this game. Tried a PVE-Mission in an Axe, was sent to an “unsafe” system. Jumped in, saw an Interceptor and some frigg, flew to the gate, pressed C and died in half a second. Awesome gaming experience.
Do I support a safe bubble on the gate? Or 30s jumpcloak (unless I use a module)? Or longer invulerability? Hell yeah.
You want gatecamp? Please do. But for the sake of game give the other pilots a chance. Makes the camping-thingy more interesting.
PS: Do not get me wrong, I am all in for the PVP. But being sent in a PVP-zone doing PVE? Without some kind of protection? With a ridiculous reward? Erm… How about “No”?
Or you know, you do not go into “unsafe” zone in a weakest ship in the entire game.
Hi,
I am new to this game. Tried a PVE-Mission in an Axe, was sent to an “unsafe” system. Jumped in, saw an Interceptor and some frigg, flew to the gate, pressed C and died in half a second. Awesome gaming experience.
Do I support a safe bubble on the gate? Or 30s jumpcloak (unless I use a module)? Or longer invulerability? Hell yeah.
You want gatecamp? Please do. But for the sake of game give the other pilots a chance. Makes the camping-thingy more interesting.
PS: Do not get me wrong, I am all in for the PVP. But being sent in a PVP-zone doing PVE? Without some kind of protection? With a ridiculous reward? Erm… How about “No”?
Or you know, you do not go into “unsafe” zone in a weakest ship in the entire game.
I’m not even certain that you can go into any unsafe zones in the axe
I’m not even certain that you can go into any unsafe zones in the axe
I belive they opened up everything for every ship recently so you cna take r1 into threat 10, i think
Best counter against gate-camps? Being on TS and telling your corpies to group up so we can kill some b*****s. Plan out an ambush and LOL when they come around an asteroid chasing you only to find a full wing waiting. Works every time.
GoD has busted loads of gate-camps in sorting facility. Its a ton of fun too as there is no time limit or kill counter, just get out there and fight like a man (Bring Dupes if you die a lot)
I belive they opened up everything for every ship recently so you cna take r1 into threat 10, i think
it’s only the zones around the station that are reuced to R1 threat - new eden for example has:
New eden
Control Post
Abandoned Beacon
Ice Belts
Colonisation Hub
Out of all those zones, no prizes for guessing which one is T1 annihalation simulator (heh)
Thanks for the idea. We’ve reviewed the suggestion and it won’t be implemented in game. There’re zones with protection stations the rest of areas are hostile.