Star Conflict v.1.0.6 Discussion

It’s 100…

Lookit the cute RFB. D’awww…

Great…100m range. Now I can really utilise that high ping!

About time you switch Arc for Jammer and stop complaining about ECM being OP I guess.
RIP Arc, though. Being my buddy since before 0.7

About time you switch Arc for Jammer and stop complaining about ECM being OP I guess.

RIP Arc, though. Being my buddy since before 0.7

inorite.

Never used a CovOps without it… It feels weird, now…

Why is the special operation on a timer? Just unlock the damn thing and let people run it when they want to!

 

Agreed.

Same timer than SQ? 1 hour every 3?It will be good for assembling wings after all.

 

I like this suggestion.

 

Currently the western hemisphere is unable to form wings and take on the new mission due to the 12-hour lockout during our prime time.

 

Seriously? 12 hours? It’s like they don’t want us to succeed. :01313:

While making it 12 hours is kinda dumb, it is pretty much the same as original Sec Con, within a week or 2 they reworked the timer for the same reasons. They probably just recycled some of the old code or something.

While making it 12 hours is kinda dumb, it is pretty much the same as original Sec Con, within a week or 2 they reworked the timer for the same reasons. They probably just recycled some of the old code or something.

Shocking.

While making it 12 hours is kinda dumb, it is pretty much the same as original Sec Con, within a week or 2 they reworked the timer for the same reasons. They probably just recycled some of the old code or something.

 

this sounds so hilariously cynical, did i read you wrong all these years…

 

bestest.

 

(agreed on 12h being a bit harsh, maybe find&replace the occurences of 12 with something smaller?)

Why are players in the western hemisphere locked out of the misison for 12 hours during our prime, while players from Europe and Russia have 3 chances (each 2 hours long) during their prime?

 

Are the developers playing favorites?

 

How can they alienate half of the globe that way?

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Here is my feedback for the patch:

  • New PVE mission is brilliant +bonus to force the players to work as a team.

  • Bugfixes are nice, specially the plasma arc nerf and visual fix

  • Drone buff was a terrible mistake, just help for the non skilled players. drone spammer aces breaks the nice fights. They come, xxxx drones, cloak. 

  • !!! Still no squads in T4, T5 but since black friday, we lost them in T3 too (during this weekend I spent at least 3h in queue if this won’t change until christmas, I’ll have to find something else to play… I get bored to watch the counter and pray for a 4 squad. I always wait 10 min at each Tech before I give up. so takes 30 min. to check T3-5 queues. Really I spent more time in queue than in game.

At least give (free)synergy bonus for 3-4 squads)

  • I like the Halloween achievements and the visual extras, that is really fun.

Why are players in the western hemisphere locked out of the misison for 12 hours during our prime, while players from Europe and Russia have 3 chances (each 2 hours long) during their prime?

 

Are the developers playing favorites?

 

How can they alienate half of the globe that way?

We all know what the Motherland thinks of Murica. Just chill. It’s bound to change, like SecCon timers did.

Here is my feedback for the patch:

  • New PVE mission is brilliant +bonus to force the players to work as a team.

  • Bugfixes are nice, specially the plasma arc nerf and visual fix

  • Drone buff was a terrible mistake, just help for the non skilled players. drone spammer aces breaks the nice fights. They come, xxxx drones, cloak. 

  • !!! Still no squads in T4, T5 but since black friday, we lost them in T3 too (during this weekend I spent at least 3h in queue if this won’t change until christmas, I’ll have to find something else to play… I get bored to watch the counter and pray for a 4 squad. I always wait 10 min at each Tech before I give up. so takes 30 min. to check T3-5 queues. Really I spent more time in queue than in game.

At least give (free)synergy bonus for 3-4 squads)

  • I like the Halloween achievements and the visual extras, that is really fun.

well just like you said the non skilled players.

the reason now no enough people in game is just because of this.

we know the players can be two kind— hard players who have more skills and light players who have no skills or don’t want to play with that much skill.

and see what they did, they made all light players leave, they blocked the higher shipps in lower missions, they made the pve so hard…

for people here, most of them is the hard player so it’s fine.

but give up the light players, for hard players fine, for game company die.

normally the light players get more numbers, lighter sever cost and almost same money paid.

so every time i saw those people said that how pve is still easy…how they should do to pass the pve… the only thing i want to say is, stop it, they just come here to get fun, not a training lessions.

yes we can say that “if don’t learn to how to play, than stop complain.”, so we get the result…less and less people…they just stop complain and leave…

 

 

 

well just like you said the non skilled players.

the reason now no enough people in game is just because of this.

we know the players can be two kind— hard players who have more skills and light players who have no skills or don’t want to play with that much skill.

and see what they did, they made all light players leave, they blocked the higher shipps in lower missions, they made the pve so hard…

for people here, most of them is the hard player so it’s fine.

but give up the light players, for hard players fine, for game company die.

normally the light players get more numbers, lighter sever cost and almost same money paid.

so every time i saw those people said that how pve is still easy…how they should do to pass the pve… the only thing i want to say is, stop it, they just come here to get fun, not a training lessions.

yes we can say that “if don’t learn to how to play, than stop complain.”, so we get the result…less and less people…they just stop complain and leave…

 

I think the boy is right…

well just like you said the non skilled players.

the reason now no enough people in game is just because of this.

we know the players can be two kind— hard players who have more skills and light players who have no skills or don’t want to play with that much skill.

and see what they did, they made all light players leave, they blocked the higher shipps in lower missions, they made the pve so hard…

for people here, most of them is the hard player so it’s fine.

but give up the light players, for hard players fine, for game company die.

normally the light players get more numbers, lighter sever cost and almost same money paid.

so every time i saw those people said that how pve is still easy…how they should do to pass the pve… the only thing i want to say is, stop it, they just come here to get fun, not a training lessions.

yes we can say that “if don’t learn to how to play, than stop complain.”, so we get the result…less and less people…they just stop complain and leave…

 

This is not really true.

I agree the PVE sometimes too hard (the normal PVE not the new Spec Ops).

I have no problem to do for example the T3 pvp with purple ships, but I believe it is very hard for a lower level T2 squad.

BUT

The PVP is different. That is Player VS Player, not Player VS Drones. I have no problem with non skilled players. They should stay in lower Techs for longer time. But please don’t buff the tactics where the skill not important.

I’d like to fight against other players win if I’m better lose if I’m not.

The playerbase is low because the mm balance was terrible, and the game was unfairly mixed on black friday without any Poll, or notice. The game is laggy as hell, the servers broke on the weekends after they released invasion. The servers mostly in Russia so the ping from europe (usa?) is on the edge of playable. The ingame progression/leveling is very slow. And the core playerbase can’t organise normal games because all information what we need for that is already hidden. And the ingame prices are ridiculously high.

Most of the times one game has one chance at a player. After a promo they failed several times that is enough to lose a lot of players. 

  • If the players feels the game not fair, they will find something else.

This is why the playerbase is low.

 

well just like you said the non skilled players.

the reason now no enough people in game is just because of this.

we know the players can be two kind— hard players who have more skills and light players who have no skills or don’t want to play with that much skill.

and see what they did, they made all light players leave, they blocked the higher shipps in lower missions, they made the pve so hard…

for people here, most of them is the hard player so it’s fine.

but give up the light players, for hard players fine, for game company die.

normally the light players get more numbers, lighter sever cost and almost same money paid.

so every time i saw those people said that how pve is still easy…how they should do to pass the pve… the only thing i want to say is, stop it, they just come here to get fun, not a training lessions.

yes we can say that “if don’t learn to how to play, than stop complain.”, so we get the result…less and less people…they just stop complain and leave…

Most people here just tell the new guys to find some friends and join a corp so they have some corp mates to help them in the missions. All tier 3 PvE is easy if you have a Styx in your team.

 

It is normal that new guys find difficult the change from T1 to T2-3 pve. T1 is super easy, and it is ok to get the first grasp of pve scenarios.

 

Then in Tier 2-3 you need some team coordination, and you need to bring the right ships. It is good, because if people don’t understand that, they will then suffer in T4-5 pve.

 

What then? ask to lower the difficulty of T4-5 pve?

 

And let’s think they do it. what now? drop the difficulty of Special Ops? make the whole game a theme park ride with hand holding all the time?

 

You need to balance between helping new players and give some challenges for the ones who want that.

 

So far that balance comes from corporations. Join corporations, find people, ask in the global chat for pre-made teams.

 

Current PvE difficulty is all right.

 

PS: Also, the player base is currently higher than anytime before. And it is steadily growing every day. But so far most of the new people are still in low tier/mid tier games.

The lower tier PvE should be easy.
There was a lot of fresh blood, but most of them did quit on r4 ships, because they felt underpowered in T2 and found the PvE impossible.

Not many want to join a corp and find a mentor right away, being carried by PvE purple pros that find it too easy.

They simply want to squad with their friends, who we assume are r4-5 as well and do some PvE to gain stuff, so they can compete in PvP later.

For them it is a huge barrier and most of them do not make it to T3.

There are other players, who just tier rush and go with 1 T5 ship 3 T1 ships and ruin the realistic battle for everyone.

The first ones are the ones we need to retain for strong T2 and T3 population, that in time will translate into T4 and T5 population.

 

When they enter T4 there should be no mercy - you should have at least 100 hours of gameplay so far, so you have no excuse of being n00b.

 

So, in conclusion :
Veterans should stop saying it is easy. Ofcourse it is for us. We play this game for years.
The fresh blood is that is what we need to retain.
And no, making new account just to go full white T2 ships and beat the game or simply gear full white T2 ships and beat the game proves nothing. We have the skills and are used to the ships. New players do not have that.

i really think the big drones should get their spread back. the damage buff is okay for me, but the big drones actually needed a tackler to stay with it and tackle small ships, if it was his intent to shoot them.

They still hit interceptors if you used tackle+gravi, and i think that was fine.

The lower tier PvE should be easy.

There was a lot of fresh blood, but most of them did quit on r4 ships, because they felt underpowered in T2 and found the PvE impossible.

Not many want to join a corp and find a mentor right away, being carried by PvE purple pros that find it too easy.

They simply want to squad with their friends, who we assume are r4-5 as well and do some PvE to gain stuff, so they can compete in PvP later.

For them it is a huge barrier and most of them do not make it to T3.

There are other players, who just tier rush and go with 1 T5 ship 3 T1 ships and ruin the realistic battle for everyone.

The first ones are the ones we need to retain for strong T2 and T3 population, that in time will translate into T4 and T5 population.

 

When they enter T4 there should be no mercy - you should have at least 100 hours of gameplay so far, so you have no excuse of being n00b.

 

So, in conclusion :

Veterans should stop saying it is easy. Ofcourse it is for us. We play this game for years.

The fresh blood is that is what we need to retain.

And no, making new account just to go full white T2 ships and beat the game or simply gear full white T2 ships and beat the game proves nothing. We have the skills and are used to the ships. New players do not have that.

Agree but where are the veterans? Where are the good T3-5 squads? Sometime in sector but nowhere else. I have to open a topic in the roundtable to figure out where is everybody? 

Until the Black Friday, we had enemies in T3. We had ESB, WPK, NASA, HAWK, X3, SYN LUX, R4GE… and we enjoyed the fights so much.

Then now all the queue is empty. I try to rush now to T5 because with my ships I have sometimes no chance in Sector… and in October all my great fight happened there.

I can go any level now, I don’t care if I lost against better ships, but I wanna fight again hard.

The problem is not just the game. The problem is the corps too. But the game doesn’t motivate now to play in squad.

Maybe u enjoy to play solo in T5 because I see the most of u there, but I hate it. I really hate to die and lose a match because of 2-3 idiots who has to take lrf and sit in the spawn… or bring T2 ships or take just one ship or u know all these things… And even if the devs doesn’t help to organise nice fight we can still can do it. Just create a squad, go in queue and wait 10 min every day, before start go solo.

What I expect from the next patch:

  • Fitting/Checking ships (ship tree) during waiting in queue
  • Indicators (Number of players online/running battles/see how many players are in queue, etc.)
  • Craftable old items in T3 (like Lightweight Hull, Capacitor Power Relay, Submatter Shield, etc.)
  • No bots in PVP
  • Player only can play the ships which matches with the tier. (Just like in the PVE.)
  • Two crews should be basic to all players. The others would be still buyable with golds.
  • At least 1000 PVP games to able to buy a T4 ship, 2000 to buy a T5. Including golden ships.
  • Get more mono crystals from missions
  • Reduce cost of quick travel (Don’t force players to go to Invasion. They will go anyway if they want to.)