Star Conflict v.1.0.1 Discussion

Mercenary Center Patch Discussion
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This is one word: ridiculous!

 

  • While I understand that Engis could have posed a self-healing problem, they were at least standing still by doing that. And a nerf to 50% self-healing would have been sufficient, instead of killing it totally. Maybe it would be wise to roll-back the Eclipse to its very beginning, back in the old days.
  • Second, and more troublesome: The GS used for pay-2-win. Hey, Premium ships with 2+ cargo? Fine for me. Special colour? Ok! No repair and more free synergie? Still, no gamebreaker. So what can we do to drive players away from the game? Install some P2W! Let’s screw Sector Conquest totally over, let alone the other PVP events. Good luck with the next tournaments.

So, just a word to the Devs: I have invested in this game more than in a full price game. And it was ok, as long as I could paint my ships the way I wanted. But, if you keep this system of p2w, I will stop making any more investments, not for license, not for whatever, and certainly not for P2W!

 

TL;DR:

NO P2W plox!

 

 

 

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btw, I hope you guys bought so many times my stickers that when I’ll be home, I’ll be rich.

 

Which one is yours? Tell me so I make sure I’ll never buy it  :rudolf:

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Which one is yours? Tell me so I make sure I’ll never buy it  :rudolf:

The ugly one

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Exactly what I said before they censored my post. As usual.

 

Nothing has changed these past 6 months. Absolutely nothing. The developer team’s mentality is the exact same as it was 6 months ago. Uncaring for the community’s feelings and opinions and the zero-tolerance for negative posts is still in effect, apparently. Not to mention there are still no warnings whatsoever when they do that, no reason given, no nothing, it’s just deleted.

 

Now, you want feedback? I’ll give you some. Never, in my life, have I see such uncaring community managers AND developing team in ANY MMO I’ve ever been on. The current dev team treats this game like a crystal piece of art when, in fact, it’s more akin to a paper cut-out of some experiment and Frankenstein-esque collage of other games’ features (looking at Warthunder and World of Tanks, here) and it’s not working. It is my strong belief that feedback isn’t getting put through to the devs properly, the concerns of this specific community (the English forum) are NOT being heard, at all and it shows. It shows in the constant updates that have been done.

 

Beta time is GONE. It’s gone bye-bye. It is now patch 1.0.1, game OFFICIALLY RELEASED, and nothing has changed for the better. Changes are still done in a “test” basis and “let’s see what works”, instead of working out accurate solutions to existing problems. You want examples? So be it:

 

  1. The Matchmaker Punishment. Winning matches doesn’t reward you. It STILL punishes you. HARD. By pitting you against stronger and stronger opponents whilst your own team gets progressively weaker and weaker. This isn’t competitiveness. It’s a slaughterfest. And nothing is done to balance it. Not only that, but I’ve heard they mixed T4 with T5 now? Are you serious? Merging T4 with T5? Really? T5 is still the complete imbalance it was the day it came to life and you decided the best alternative is to merge it with the Tier below it? Whatever happened to fair play? Has the active playerbase declined so far that you’re forced to bring back mixed Tiers again? What happened?

 

  1. Sandbox, Dreadnaughts, The Lie, The Movie. So, Sandbox was viciously declined by the devs (I realize this was vehemently declined by the previous dev team assigned to the game’s development) and now it’s the most publicized feature of the game. Dreadnaughts were also promised back in 0.8, was it? As a means to declare war on other Corps and Corp v Corp Warfare (hence the addition of Artifacts, as well) and it seems like this idea was discarded in its entirety, with the community only having been given glimpses of Dreadnaught designs and not much else. So, what’s the deal with these two features again?

 

  1. Crafting supreme. While I do thank the addition of a crafting system, the craftable ships… Are anything but good. They are basically a free reign on what you want to do with VERY extreme consequences. Now… I’ve only returned since Monday, but just LOOKING at those 3 ships made me facepalm because, in five minutes, I had come up with a way to make all three of them nigh-unbeatable. The Gunship is just ridiculous if you put the right layout, the Engineer is ludicrous, even more-so than Federate Frigates and the ECM is just… It’s sad that the game has progressed so little in such a long span of time. As for the modules… Mk V were supposed to be a special reward for winning tournaments or events of some kind. This. Is ridiculous due to how specific the modules are. They are very specific modules for very specific ship roles. This is not the way to do things, you cannot just had a small portion of the modules and hope for the best. It’s as if you’re saying “hey, these are the things we want you to use”. No. That’s NOT how you work. WE choose what to put in our ships, not you. I also saw the aimbot STILL exists in the game and am incredibly saddened to see it. Why? Because the cooldown is ridiculous. Ridiculous as in, VERY LOW. And, as an excuse to maintaining the module’s existence, the best alternative was to reduce Overdrive on Gunships? Again and again and again, I and many others keep saying that Occam’s Razor is NOT the way out of any predicament.

 

  1. Community. Yes, we’re all xxxxxxx. No, none of us care about the game’s future, that’s why we’re still playing it. I’m sorry, sarcasm is VERY hard to convey over the Internet. And I’m being sarcastic because it’s the truth. Sort of. We are the unheard voice. We are the baby that cries for food that never comes. We are the woman that cries bloody murder and no one comes to help. We are simply… ignored. Tell me. What game survives when its very community, what makes the game EXIST is left unheard? The community, the game’s lifeline, leaves. Prove me wrong on this.

 

 

Oh, and if the post gets deleted due to hubris, I fully expect a PM stating specifically WHY it was deleted. If I see this gone, I will paste it back in until that question is answered. If there is ONE thing in this messed up planet I do not tolerate is censorship. I became a game reviewer for some reason. So that, not only mine, voice would be heard. Negative posts have as much weight as positive ones when they’re not bashful or outright offensive. I fully expect this post to survive for longer than 1 hour. Otherwise, you know what’ll happen. Repost. Repost. Repost.

 

I usually dont like your negative attitude because when you usually express your self your being impolite. However, I feel your right on alot of points. This reflect pretty much what I think is happenning with this game. Done the right way, well put…

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I usually dont like your negative attitude because when you usually express your self your being impolite. However, I feel your right on alot of points. This reflect pretty much what I think is happenning with this game. Done the right way, well put…

Trying to turn a new leaf on that. Evis can elaborate on my non-bitchy behaviour, as he witnessed it yesterday.

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It is only my imagination or t5 pve bots got boosted quietly again? first attempt - 3 min o sh… i am alone. second - 5 min o sh… i am alone. third - 3 min o sh… i am alone… it must be something wrong with patch notes translation :wink:

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Trying to turn a new leaf on that. Evis can elaborate on my non-bitchy behaviour, as he witnessed it yesterday.

I will, when the shock disappears.

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Trying to turn a new leaf on that. Evis can elaborate on my non-bitchy behaviour, as he witnessed it yesterday.

 

Work like a charm :slight_smile:

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Exactly what I said before they censored my post. As usual.

 

Nothing has changed these past 6 months. Absolutely nothing. The developer team’s mentality is the exact same as it was 6 months ago. Uncaring for the community’s feelings and opinions and the zero-tolerance for negative posts is still in effect, apparently. Not to mention there are still no warnings whatsoever when they do that, no reason given, no nothing, it’s just deleted.

 

Now, you want feedback? I’ll give you some. Never, in my life, have I see such uncaring community managers AND developing team in ANY MMO I’ve ever been on. The current dev team treats this game like a crystal piece of art when, in fact, it’s more akin to a paper cut-out of some experiment and Frankenstein-esque collage of other games’ features (looking at Warthunder and World of Tanks, here) and it’s not working. It is my strong belief that feedback isn’t getting put through to the devs properly, the concerns of this specific community (the English forum) are NOT being heard, at all and it shows. It shows in the constant updates that have been done.

 

Beta time is GONE. It’s gone bye-bye. It is now patch 1.0.1, game OFFICIALLY RELEASED, and nothing has changed for the better. Changes are still done in a “test” basis and “let’s see what works”, instead of working out accurate solutions to existing problems. You want examples? So be it:

 

  1. The Matchmaker Punishment. Winning matches doesn’t reward you. It STILL punishes you. HARD. By pitting you against stronger and stronger opponents whilst your own team gets progressively weaker and weaker. This isn’t competitiveness. It’s a slaughterfest. And nothing is done to balance it. Not only that, but I’ve heard they mixed T4 with T5 now? Are you serious? Merging T4 with T5? Really? T5 is still the complete imbalance it was the day it came to life and you decided the best alternative is to merge it with the Tier below it? Whatever happened to fair play? Has the active playerbase declined so far that you’re forced to bring back mixed Tiers again? What happened?

 

  1. Sandbox, Dreadnaughts, The Lie, The Movie. So, Sandbox was viciously declined by the devs (I realize this was vehemently declined by the previous dev team assigned to the game’s development) and now it’s the most publicized feature of the game. Dreadnaughts were also promised back in 0.8, was it? As a means to declare war on other Corps and Corp v Corp Warfare (hence the addition of Artifacts, as well) and it seems like this idea was discarded in its entirety, with the community only having been given glimpses of Dreadnaught designs and not much else. So, what’s the deal with these two features again?

 

  1. Crafting supreme. While I do thank the addition of a crafting system, the craftable ships… Are anything but good. They are basically a free reign on what you want to do with VERY extreme consequences. Now… I’ve only returned since Monday, but just LOOKING at those 3 ships made me facepalm because, in five minutes, I had come up with a way to make all three of them nigh-unbeatable. The Gunship is just ridiculous if you put the right layout, the Engineer is ludicrous, even more-so than Federate Frigates and the ECM is just… It’s sad that the game has progressed so little in such a long span of time. As for the modules… Mk V were supposed to be a special reward for winning tournaments or events of some kind. This. Is ridiculous due to how specific the modules are. They are very specific modules for very specific ship roles. This is not the way to do things, you cannot just had a small portion of the modules and hope for the best. It’s as if you’re saying “hey, these are the things we want you to use”. No. That’s NOT how you work. WE choose what to put in our ships, not you. I also saw the aimbot STILL exists in the game and am incredibly saddened to see it. Why? Because the cooldown is ridiculous. Ridiculous as in, VERY LOW. And, as an excuse to maintaining the module’s existence, the best alternative was to reduce Overdrive on Gunships? Again and again and again, I and many others keep saying that Occam’s Razor is NOT the way out of any predicament.

 

  1. Community. Yes, we’re all xxxxxxx. No, none of us care about the game’s future, that’s why we’re still playing it. I’m sorry, sarcasm is VERY hard to convey over the Internet. And I’m being sarcastic because it’s the truth. Sort of. We are the unheard voice. We are the baby that cries for food that never comes. We are the woman that cries bloody murder and no one comes to help. We are simply… ignored. Tell me. What game survives when its very community, what makes the game EXIST is left unheard? The community, the game’s lifeline, leaves. Prove me wrong on this.

 

 

Oh, and if the post gets deleted due to hubris, I fully expect a PM stating specifically WHY it was deleted. If I see this gone, I will paste it back in until that question is answered. If there is ONE thing in this messed up planet I do not tolerate is censorship. I became a game reviewer for some reason. So that, not only mine, voice would be heard. Negative posts have as much weight as positive ones when they’re not bashful or outright offensive. I fully expect this post to survive for longer than 1 hour. Otherwise, you know what’ll happen. Repost. Repost. Repost.

1)Wouldn’t it be even more unbalanced if the matchmaking would put all strong players against all weak players? Where is the reward if there are matches that can be won without putting any effort?

 

2)Yes, Sandbox was not planned in the early beginning, but as you see, things may change. For Dreadnoughts, yes they have been mentioned in the past and we have not forgotten about them. They are still planned, but everything needs it’s time.

 

3)These ships have just been added and feedback on them is welcomed. Balancing is a progress that is always going on and we will keep on tweaking it if needed.

 

4)The forum is read regularly and feedback is forwarded to the according devs.

 

P.S.:

Certain posts have been removed due to the fact that they were not directly related to the patch.

Offtopic, posts about leaving the game, raging and flaming are not needed.

Positive and also negative feedback is always welcome, just keep it friendly and on topic.

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If they keep doing so, it’s going to end like this! http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/aYpKZxq_460sa_v1.gif

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Which one is yours? Tell me so I make sure I’ll never buy it  rudolf.gif

yYl2wGd.jpg

 

Isn’t it beautiful ? The best thing you’ll ever have in your life for only 240 GS. Buy it many times, and you’ll be forever happy, trust me.

 

PS : it give me 36 gs per buy

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I usually dont like your negative attitude because when you usually express your self your being impolite. However, I feel your right on alot of points. This reflect pretty much what I think is happenning with this game. Done the right way, well put…

agreed.

as with the GS crews, it could be that they do it like with other things for early adopters and come with credits later. they have done it with other stuff like that.

I would not mind GS for convenience features like instant-sets, but i was sad to kiss some euros goodbye just to have a feature, that seems somewhat vital for competition.

I overall like how the idea was implented. It is nice you can set up your crews and switch the slots. But I certainly dont like the GS aspect.

At least one additional implant crew should be unlockable for everyone, before they hit T3.

I had no problems with self healing; albeit the healing rate should have degraded over time, or being interrupted by incoming damage, so that supercooled charges didnt make you a focus fire brick around a roid. also other ideas would have been to give resistance problems while you self healed, self healing actually not ignoring your own resistance, etc. to make it mostly viable if you were positioned far away enough. there is still the possibility to use two engies shooting each other. however meeting unbreakable teams where the styx healed up no matter how much damage was incoming was ridiculous, too. At the same time, engies are either scarce or over abundant in pvp.

by wasting so much energy to implement new GS sinks, you waste precious time to implement things into this game which would enrich it further and help its popularity.

more transparency and closer ties to your community could give not just yourself new power, but also make the comments on the forum more reliable.

I see much cheaper, smaller products succeed in much bigger ways, where the devs keep in touch with their most loyal fans, and also explain harsh decisions; funny, how in those communities, big changes are accepted with much less turmoil, just because there is a voice talking.

I would still look at some core gameplay aspects, which might be expandable or changeable to make the game perfect, to battle dynamics like spawn camp runs (which is just low, and the current respawn dynamics make it almost too easy). Come on, there is much more potential in this game!

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Not sure what to make out of it. Scratch mark or what?

 

Also crew cost should be lowered to 1,000 GS. Even War Thunder does not ask for this much. Currently 2,000 GS is just not tempting.

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1)Wouldn’t it be even more unbalanced if the matchmaking would put all strong players against all weak players? Where is the reward if there are matches that can be won without putting any effort?

 

2)Yes, Sandbox was not planned in the early beginning, but as you see, things may change. For Dreadnoughts, yes they have been mentioned in the past and we have not forgotten about them. They are still planned, but everything needs it’s time.

 

3)These ships have just been added and feedback on them is welcomed. Balancing is a progress that is always going on and we will keep on tweaking it if needed.

 

4)The forum is read regularly and feedback is forwarded to the according devs.

  1. That’s not what I mean and you know it. So far, and even before I left, SR averages on MY team were of 1100SR (this, considering mine was well over 1500). On the opposite team, the average SR was of roughly 14/1500 SR. How is this balanced, tell me. How can anyone be competitive in this sort of environment, where the matches are, very blatantly clear, one-sided?

 

  1. No, you don’t understand. Sandbox was vehemently and viciously denied and thrown in a corner by the previous dev team. Suddenly, new dev team, Sandbox is the most loved thing in the world and is being rushed to completion, leaving any and all balance issues (that are still major issues to be resolved, btw) unresolved. After 6 months, nothing has changed except “aliens”.

 

  1. Some say they’re overpowered, others say it isn’t. I’m… inclined to say they are, despite the fact that I don’t own any. This is mostly because of the old F-skills that vanished, but are now making a comeback? The devs decided to recycle one of the good things of the pre-0.7 ship role mechanics that they annihilated. The ships themselves aren’t overpowered. It’s what smart pilots build them with.

 

  1. Please. If that’s true, then my point still stands. They. Are. Ignoring us. Us, the English community, who begs for them to see the light. Us, who seem to, partially, be the voice of reason, because, the way I see it (and so I’ve gathered), the devs are immensely active in the Russian forums. I understand that them being here can be bad for their egos, but shouldn’t they hear the ENTIRE community and not just a portion of it?
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Not sure what to make out of it. Scratch mark or what?

 

Also crew cost should be lowered to 1,000 GS. Even War Thunder does not ask for this much. Currently 2,000 GS is just not tempting.

Scratch mark of Aliens.

No, there should be a way to have them through credit. The GS way should only be a shortcut.

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Hardened the PvE (ships rolling), removed ship reconstruction and map selection.

If you search a random match chances to win on some maps like fort muerto or ice belt are almost none.

People get killed too soon.

This mode is doomed :frowning: and i liked it, now no more.

Seriously, pirate baron’s singularity deal 56k damage against 210 pts of em resistance???

Ship reconstruction during boss fights only would be a good idea.

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I’ve been playing Sector Conquest past couple of days and I’m seeing plenty of Engineers out there. I felt that a good team supporting Engineer is hard to crack.

 

Try T3 PvP. I’ve had enough recon matches where I’m capt and there’s no engie. 

 

Exactly what I said before they censored my post. As usual.

 

Nothing has changed these past 6 months. Absolutely nothing. The developer team’s mentality is the exact same as it was 6 months ago. Uncaring for the community’s feelings and opinions and the zero-tolerance for negative posts is still in effect, apparently. Not to mention there are still no warnings whatsoever when they do that, no reason given, no nothing, it’s just deleted.

 

Now, you want feedback? I’ll give you some. Never, in my life, have I see such uncaring community managers AND developing team in ANY MMO I’ve ever been on. The current dev team treats this game like a crystal piece of art when, in fact, it’s more akin to a paper cut-out of some experiment and Frankenstein-esque collage of other games’ features (looking at Warthunder and World of Tanks, here) and it’s not working. It is my strong belief that feedback isn’t getting put through to the devs properly, the concerns of this specific community (the English forum) are NOT being heard, at all and it shows. It shows in the constant updates that have been done.

 

Beta time is GONE. It’s gone bye-bye. It is now patch 1.0.1, game OFFICIALLY RELEASED, and nothing has changed for the better. Changes are still done in a “test” basis and “let’s see what works”, instead of working out accurate solutions to existing problems. You want examples? So be it:

 

  1. The Matchmaker Punishment. Winning matches doesn’t reward you. It STILL punishes you. HARD. By pitting you against stronger and stronger opponents whilst your own team gets progressively weaker and weaker. This isn’t competitiveness. It’s a slaughterfest. And nothing is done to balance it. Not only that, but I’ve heard they mixed T4 with T5 now? Are you serious? Merging T4 with T5? Really? T5 is still the complete imbalance it was the day it came to life and you decided the best alternative is to merge it with the Tier below it? Whatever happened to fair play? Has the active playerbase declined so far that you’re forced to bring back mixed Tiers again? What happened?

 

  1. Sandbox, Dreadnaughts, The Lie, The Movie. So, Sandbox was viciously declined by the devs (I realize this was vehemently declined by the previous dev team assigned to the game’s development) and now it’s the most publicized feature of the game. Dreadnaughts were also promised back in 0.8, was it? As a means to declare war on other Corps and Corp v Corp Warfare (hence the addition of Artifacts, as well) and it seems like this idea was discarded in its entirety, with the community only having been given glimpses of Dreadnaught designs and not much else. So, what’s the deal with these two features again?

 

  1. Crafting supreme. While I do thank the addition of a crafting system, the craftable ships… Are anything but good. They are basically a free reign on what you want to do with VERY extreme consequences. Now… I’ve only returned since Monday, but just LOOKING at those 3 ships made me facepalm because, in five minutes, I had come up with a way to make all three of them nigh-unbeatable. The Gunship is just ridiculous if you put the right layout, the Engineer is ludicrous, even more-so than Federate Frigates and the ECM is just… It’s sad that the game has progressed so little in such a long span of time. As for the modules… Mk V were supposed to be a special reward for winning tournaments or events of some kind. This. Is ridiculous due to how specific the modules are. They are very specific modules for very specific ship roles. This is not the way to do things, you cannot just had a small portion of the modules and hope for the best. It’s as if you’re saying “hey, these are the things we want you to use”. No. That’s NOT how you work. WE choose what to put in our ships, not you. I also saw the aimbot STILL exists in the game and am incredibly saddened to see it. Why? Because the cooldown is ridiculous. Ridiculous as in, VERY LOW. And, as an excuse to maintaining the module’s existence, the best alternative was to reduce Overdrive on Gunships? Again and again and again, I and many others keep saying that Occam’s Razor is NOT the way out of any predicament.

 

  1. Community. Yes, we’re all xxxxxxx. No, none of us care about the game’s future, that’s why we’re still playing it. I’m sorry, sarcasm is VERY hard to convey over the Internet. And I’m being sarcastic because it’s the truth. Sort of. We are the unheard voice. We are the baby that cries for food that never comes. We are the woman that cries bloody murder and no one comes to help. We are simply… ignored. Tell me. What game survives when its very community, what makes the game EXIST is left unheard? The community, the game’s lifeline, leaves. Prove me wrong on this.

 

 

Oh, and if the post gets deleted due to hubris, I fully expect a PM stating specifically WHY it was deleted. If I see this gone, I will paste it back in until that question is answered. If there is ONE thing in this messed up planet I do not tolerate is censorship. I became a game reviewer for some reason. So that, not only mine, voice would be heard. Negative posts have as much weight as positive ones when they’re not bashful or outright offensive. I fully expect this post to survive for longer than 1 hour. Otherwise, you know what’ll happen. Repost. Repost. Repost.

 

This. Great to see that someone cares enough about the game to write such a huge wall of text.

 

I liked this game when I first joined. I don’t want to see SC become part of my ‘log in and log out’ list. Or worse, get kicked out of that list.

 

btw, I hope you guys bought so many times my stickers that when I’ll be home, I’ll be rich.

 

But your sticker is only applied to one ship~! I’ll scratch my ships myself, all of them.

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  1. That’s not what I mean and you know it. So far, and even before I left, SR averages on MY team were of 1100SR (this, considering mine was well over 1500). On the opposite team, the average SR was of roughly 14/1500 SR. How is this balanced, tell me. How can anyone be competitive in this sort of environment, where the matches are, very blatantly clear, one-sided?

 

  1. No, you don’t understand. Sandbox was vehemently and viciously denied and thrown in a corner by the previous dev team. Suddenly, new dev team, Sandbox is the most loved thing in the world and is being rushed to completion, leaving any and all balance issues (that are still major issues to be resolved, btw) unresolved. After 6 months, nothing has changed except “aliens”.

 

  1. Some say they’re overpowered, others say it isn’t. I’m… inclined to say they are, despite the fact that I don’t own any. This is mostly because of the old F-skills that vanished, but are now making a comeback? The devs decided to recycle one of the good things of the pre-0.7 ship role mechanics that they annihilated. The ships themselves aren’t overpowered. It’s what smart pilots build them with.

 

  1. Please. If that’s true, then my point still stands. They. Are. Ignoring us. Us, the English community, who begs for them to see the light. Us, who seem to, partially, be the voice of reason, because, the way I see it (and so I’ve gathered), the devs are immensely active in the Russian forums. I understand that them being here can be bad for their egos, but shouldn’t they hear the ENTIRE community and not just a portion of it?

1)SR does not always say that a player is good or bad. Personally for me it only says how good someone can protect his ship. Matchmaking is one of the most complicate mechanics. It depends on the amount of players in queue that could possible matched with you + the players that queue for the same region + SR and Squads. If there are any battles where one team is clearly loosing compared to the other teams, we need detailled reports and suggestions. Just sorting battles on SR would not help, because SR does not say how much you focus on the objectives.

 

2)The dev team has not changed.

 

4)This is not the right place to discuss it.

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Specialized ships thanks to craftable thingy + specialized implant set for those ships(only via gold) >> I would call it P2W

but hey I know nothing and my post are magical coz they disappear :006j:  

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Then what is the right place, because you alone have been listening to this for over a year so surely it’s been passed on and totally ignored at least once by now!