Star Conflict OBT v.0.9.9 update1 discussion

Wont happen atm. I have to max out some ships for the tourney. Namely: Arigato AE, Argonaut, Tiger II

 

T5 I assume? I dont pay attention to ship names…

T5 I assume? I dont pay attention to ship names…

There is no T5 Tourney, they´ re Rank 12. 

Anyway… I fear it will be a 2x Healer 6x Gunship Comp anyway  :sad:

Well, another monstrosity from the MM.

 

Just a few minutes ago, i was 2-man squading with T2 ships to level them up for the “bonus fleet strenght” and we were put in a battle against 5 ppl from the same corp (SCORP) and all of them were flying T3’s.

 

So antibus, please enlighten us on how the MM is working as intended… From what perspective a 2-man T2 squad with mediocre gear is as powerfull as probably a 4-man T3 squad + 1 of the same corp?

 

What level was your T2 ?   T2 (Levels 4-6)    So if your level 6  while either solo or in a squad good chance your going to be facing level 5-8       T3 (level 7&8)

 

Also it could happen that just because there may be 4 members of a Corp on the opposing team may not mean they are a 4 man squad… They could 2 squads who happens to end up on the same side. Timing it just right. 

There is no T5 Tourney, they´ re Rank 12. 

Anyway… I fear it will be a 2x Healer 6x Gunship Comp anyway  :sad:

 

Ah, T4 tourney is gonna be tough. I hear alot of big names are going to be there. I not a big name, cause I suck, so I will be just the “bait” 

Ah, T4 tourney is gonna be tough. I hear alot of big names are going to be there. I not a big name, cause I suck, so I will be just the “bait” 

 

I thought there will be a NASA squad in T4? And you are not in it?  :what:

I thought there will be a NASA squad in T4? And you are not in it?  :what:

 

Oh im in it alright. (If I can make it, its on a saturaday, but when on a saturday I dont know.) 

 

And I plan to do everything in my power to be like…“HEY. LOOK AT ME! HEYYYYYY LOSERS! COME TRY TO KILL ME!” 

 

and then WPK, ESB and NOVA are gonna be like “Is that dude really think we are gonna fall for that?”  

And I plan to do everything in my power to be like…“HEY. LOOK AT ME! HEYYYYYY LOSERS! COME TRY TO KILL ME!” 

 

and then WPK, ESB and NOVA are gonna be like “Is that dude really think we are gonna fall for that?”  

 

Try that with a Jerry LRF, it might be annoying enough (cant do much else tho)  :lol:

“It is working as intended.”

 

idk, maybe they weren’t in a squad?

 

What are the odds of 5 players not in a squad queueing at the same time end up at the same side of a battle, and all of them in full T3’s with average DSR? 1 in a million?

 

What level was your T2 ?   T2 (Levels 4-6)    So if your level 6  while either solo or in a squad good chance your going to be facing level 5-8       T3 (level 7&8)

 

Also it could happen that just because there may be 4 members of a Corp on the opposing team may not mean they are a 4 man squad… They could 2 squads who happens to end up on the same side. Timing it just right. 

 

Again, what are the odds they would be lined up on the same side. Even if it was 2 diferent squads, since they are flying T3’s they were suposed to be given much higher rating than 2 guys flying crap equiped T2’s no matter what rank.

What are the odds of 5 players not in a squad queueing at the same time end up at the same side of a battle, and all of them in full T3’s with average DSR? 1 in a million?

 

 

 

With the poor playerbase at the moment (in numbers) its not that unlikely. (especially when they queued at the same time). Also its not an abusive behavior to coordinate the queueing on TS i.e.  And since you said they all had average DSR they could have been put on any spot. 

MM doesnt look at your clantag. 

There is no T5 Tourney, they´ re Rank 12. 

Anyway… I fear it will be a 2x Healer 6x Gunship Comp anyway

Unsurprising considering how OP’d Bubble Gunships are in a group.

 

What are the odds of 5 players not in a squad queueing at the same time end up at the same side of a battle, and all of them in full T3’s with average DSR? 1 in a million?

Relatively high.

Unsurprising considering how OP’d Bubble Gunships are in a group.

 

I doubt they will have more than 1 Bubble gun in their line up, i am almost certain and it is pretty obvious what weapons they are going to use, and most of other “high skilled” teams in T3-T4.

I doubt they will have more than 1 Bubble gun in their line up, i am almost certain and it is pretty obvious what weapons they are going to use, and most of other “high skilled” teams in T3-T4.

Every single Gunship I’ve seen ESB use have Bubbles. ALL of them. Their Tacklers (from the few I’ve seen) use Gauss/Ion, they have no Commands in their lineup.

Every single Gunship I’ve seen ESB use have Bubbles. ALL of them. Their Tacklers (from the few I’ve seen) use Gauss/Ion, they have no Commands in their lineup.

There is a difference in flying in small squad in Random game and a coordinated in a tournament.

There is a difference in flying in small squad in Random game and a coordinated in a tournament.

Even so, Bubbles are still, by a long shot, the best weapon to bunker down with.

Even so, Bubbles are still, by a long shot, the best weapon to bunker down with.

In a tournament setting? No

Do you remember last tournament and how 99% of all weapons were mid range weapons? i.e. Stabz and some Hails? And i don’t mean Gauss

Bubble gun is extremely close range weapon, by the time you get in range you gonna be vaporized from 4-5k distances, and one simply does not sneak in on ESB

There is no T5 Tourney, they´ re Rank 12. 

Anyway… I fear it will be a 2x Healer 6x Gunship Comp anyway  :sad:

I suspect there’ll be at least on guard to get AMS in, and at least a couple of those gunships will be running lasers because you know - best anti fighter weapon and all when you actually have focus. Not sure if sniper rails will be run on the rest or all lasers though. In current state I suspect it will be all lasers, but they might nerf them a bit before tourney to make it slightly less obvious choice.

 

But we’ll see what people will come up with.

What I meant, which you obviously failed to read, is that T4 blackwood is far better for credit farming than T5 PVE.

Nope,Pirates at least equal or better on credit farm

you can do BW in 7-8 minutes

you can do pirates in 8-9 minutes

you can improve those times but, need effort and screw effort

You get higher credits on Pirates and in a long run run you have to take into account selling price difference of mk2 gear.

Nope,Pirates at least equal or better on credit farm

you can do BW in 7-8 minutes

you can do pirates in 8-9 minutes

you can improve those times but, need effort and screw effort

You get higher credits on Pirates and in a long run run you have to take into account selling price difference of mk2 gear.

You can do BW in 5 minutes with the right people I think.

And pirates in 9 minutes is with a really good team, don’t think 8 is even possible due to R2 taking forever.

 

And although the loot is better, loot is chance based and I have more often than not no items at all or experimentals, which cost you credits or gain you artifacts. The credits from BW are almost equal, but much faster and less mind numbing.

You can do BW in 5 minutes with the right people I think.

And pirates in 9 minutes is with a really good team, don’t think 8 is even possible due to R2 taking forever.

 

And although the loot is better, loot is chance based and I have more often than not no items at all or experimentals, which cost you credits or gain you artifacts. The credits from BW are almost equal, but much faster and less mind numbing.

While it could be possible to hit 5 minute mark on BW, none of us does it and it is hypothetical scenario, average BW in good group is 7 minutes, to hit below 7 starts to take effort, and we all know, screw effort during farm. Pirates takes 9 minutes with next to no effort in good group. And in a long run you will have mk2 considerable amount of mk2 gear for sale from both modes, if you didnt have loot couple games in a row, doesn’t automatically make it no loot forever.

BTW if i am not mistaken, even garbage loot from Pirates worth more than BWs, but this has to be verified.

So after all Pirates about equal to BW, in no where BW is significantly better at farm. BUT if you do solo farm BW is your choice, no doubt.

BTW if i am not mistaken, even garbage loot from Pirates worth more than BWs, but this has to be verified.

So after all Pirates about equal to BW, in no where BW is significantly better at farm. BUT if you do solo farm BW is your choice, no doubt.

Both T5 gray loot and upgrade kits are significantly more expensive, they are in direct relation to price differential between T4 and T5 loot. It’s one of the less obvious reasons why T5 farm is exceptionally efficient if you’re good at the game.

Obvious caveat: requires skill to not xxxx up at pirate base on regular basis and strongly prefers that people have R13 ships for CD implant. Which is not trivial, as NASA folks have fucked it up when we took someone not used to the thing and especially when we took too many people with T4 and T3 ships that were suboptimal (i.e. too few gunships), ending up not having the DPS for part two, or messing up part one and taking helluva long time, or even wiping there.

So not trivial, but both clearly superior to T3 (max level blackwood) in credits as well as allowing for actual T5 gear progression.