Changing the ship tree should generally be a hard choice, just like changing module slots. We got the Hydra 2 -> Styx route now, at least. I think that’s more from the devs actually understanding that an LRF and an engineer are just such different play styles. Empire’s T3 gunship being an R7 ship has been a complaint for a long time but it’s yet to change.
Who knows what version number will become release. Version numbers mean nothing without a convention. Odds are the next patch will be 0.10.0 instead of 0.9.10.
It is kind of interesting seeing Zerk1’s post from April about MM.
Matchmaking actually mixes tiers with higher ships having lower performance rates/equipment than your opponent.
And there should be no two-tiers higher opponents when the online is high.
The issue I see there is an obvious one: the skilled T3 pilot wants to be put against skilled T3 pilots. The crap T4 pilot needs to be vs other crap T4 pilots.
At the moment we are not planning on fixing tiers. Of course, we continue monitoring the situation with matches and are working on current matchmaker in orer to provide more balanced encounters.
Matchmaking actually mixes tiers with higher ships having lower performance rates/equipment than your opponent.
And there should be no two-tiers higher opponents when the online is high.
Then… what you’re saying is that there is no possible way that, if we’re in a 4man squad with high-end T2 ships, we do NOT face ANY T4 ships, if there are enough pilots.
Then… what you’re saying is that there is no possible way that, if we’re in a 4man squad with high-end T2 ships, we do NOT face ANY T4 ships, if there are enough pilots.
Then… for the MM… what is a “high online” status?
More than are currently online because players won’t play with a MM system they don’t like.
The game is quite boring when you either get stomped by higher tiers when with friends, or when you win so much with out any effort.
Stop trying to balance skill. Thats unavailable in every respect.
The reason we ask for FIXED tiers is so that we have a decent competition ALONG with our friends. Simply make it so when a squad of 4 queues up, they get matched with another squad of 4 in a game. How hard is that?!
Every OTHER game has a party up system and a way to enjoy, usually a difficult experience, along with friends and clan mates.
I urge you to look at your stats of people actually squadding up, the rate of people actually coming in and then quitting, and the activeness of corps in their respective tiers.
MM “can” work, actually. I would still prefer some changes:
Let T1s not que up in T2 or T3 matches.
Same for T2.
The main Issue i see here is an other: The playerbase is too small. So, while MM is ok per se, it cant function good due to the lack of players.
T5 is pretty much dead. a few loners maybe, so no use in squadding up in t5 ships.
T4 is more or less abandoned after 23h GMT. Cant squad up there either.
At least we got this nice fleet strength mechanic, so there is actually a point in going lower tiers. But to be honest: I can do that a few matches but then I start missing my T4s again. They feel so much better.
My main complaint is, that you really need to adapt (at least for the moment) the MM to the playerbase not vice versa, since its too small.
MM fails are produced on a regular base, seriously I can predict 99% of the outcome in T4 matches right. MM cant balance the Teams, too less players and i think the Win/loose-mechanic isnt really working.
Look at this Match, you really dont need to ask the oracle how that ended:
And that was even one of the tougher matches, had others which ended pretty much in a slaughterfest one way or the other.
From time to time, I go to the official Steam page and see the 2 videos posted there, only to later ask myself “well, where’s the TEAM portion of the game? Where’s my possibility of playing in a COORDINATED SQUAD? When I’ll stop playing the SINGLE PLAYER mode of this and start enjoying it with my FRIENDS?”
From time to time, I go to the official Steam page and see the 2 videos posted there, only to later ask myself “well, where’s the TEAM portion of the game? Where’s my possibility of playing in a COORDINATED SQUAD? When I’ll stop playing the SINGLE PLAYER mode of this and start enjoying it with my FRIENDS?”
Remember they NERFED teamwork. Sounds impossible, but they did. They punish you for being at the top of the scoreboard or havign a high SR. I noticed that my Credit income was low when I got “fear me” metals, I have to ensure that I die at least once to get more credits at the end of the match.
Remember they NERFED teamwork. Sounds impossible, but they did. They punish you for being at the top of the scoreboard or havign a high SR. I noticed that my Credit income was low when I got “fear me” metals, I have to ensure that I die at least once to get more credits at the end of the match.
Once again, no one is punishing you. You are being offered a challenge every time you play.
Once again, no one is punishing you. You are being offered a challenge every time you play.
Tbh, Antibus. Fly in a 4-man-squad in T1 or T2… it feels like punishment. Im Ok with you that it gets better after that.
BUT the problem in higher tiers is, that you need either an other team or enough randoms in a higher tier to get matched. And THATs not granted at all. So in a way its punishment due to waiting time.
Can you tell me if force-matching is active again? (Read: I get matched granted after 5 mins of wait IF enough -that means somtimes even only one- players are in que)
Once again, no one is punishing you. You are being offered a challenge every time you play.
Sorry Antibus, but no: last week I tried to show the game to a friend of mine, and he said to me “let’s do a party so you can show me how’s played”, I told him no, that his idea is bad and that we both will die a lot, that PvE is a better option (?!).
He insisted so much that I picked up only one R2 ship (an engineer in order to heal him, and no, it wasn’t “Elite”) and only with Mk.1 equipment and went with him to T1 PvP (he used the first 3 initial ships). Result? Well, I guess I don’t need to explain nor take a picture since my friend left the game that same day and hasn’t logged in over a week. Ain’t fun to be killed over and over again without even having a chance just because the opposition is full of higher ranked ships, and I’m not talking about 1, 2 nor 3 ranks, I’m talking about more. He even tried to make squad with other “newb1es”, but the result was the same.
Sorry Antibus, but no: last week I tried to show the game to a friend of mine, and he said to me “let’s do a party so you can show me how’s played”, I told him no, that his idea is bad and that we both will die a lot, that PvE is a better option (?!).
He insisted so much that I picked up only one R2 ship (an engineer in order to heal him, and no, it wasn’t “Elite”) and only with Mk.1 equipment and went with him to T1 PvP (he used the first 3 initial ships). Result? Well, I guess I don’t need to explain nor take a picture since my friend left the game that same day and hasn’t logged in over a week.
When I experience something myself, when I see it with my very own eyes, there’s no valid explanation from anyone else.
Last week: Before 0.9.9?
Did you take highest-ranking ship in tier? What tier were you matched with? Were you the only 2 pilots in the group?
He CLEARLY said he took R2, Antibus. That’s middle of the tier.
And to be honest, none of us give a xxxx for your excuses about “offering a challenge”. Everyone who posts about teams feels they are unfair. Everyone I talk to elsewhere thinks the idea is xxxx, and the fact NOBODY FLIES IN SQUADS should be all the proof you need that you are in the wrong.
Get the Devs to stop making excuses and give us back the MM we want - one that encourages squadding.
