Bigger problem here is people play the styx like an engineer (second line) and most people rush the front line with a guard, where it gets focused and annihilated in few seconds.
The guard is the anvil of the attack force, not the hammer.
The urge to plunge into the fray with pulsar and all the debuff auras…
I’m not saying that the Styx is not OP, but the Phase shield resists are not included in the survivability EHP of guards, neither the damage reduction aura in case you have it active, or the emergency shield boost module.
My crusader has worst survivability than my Styx, but it can take way more damage with a good phase shield use and positioning.
the Phase shield resists are not included in the survivability EHP of guards, neither the damage reduction aura in case you have it active, or the emergency shield boost module.
Exactly. Some people just throw guard modules (signature masking, phase shield, emergency shield boost) out the window when comparing ships
CovOp is more of a needle, but Empire Gunships sure are the hammers
Have you seen how hard effective CovOps hit? I’ve seen mine do 2k crits, 100% of the time. It’s definitely the hammer. Maybe a wooden hammer, but definitely one.
Imperial commands can solo guards if flown right if given bubble guns.
The question would be, who can’t? Since the mega nerf whatever ship im flying im just not scared to engage solo a guard anymore. It is a simple hack’n’slash on them and they blow away. If you flank them while they are strugling against another ship it is even easier to takel him down. I think this days even a space flying doughnut would be enought to kill half the guards in the game.
Exactly. Some people just throw guard modules (signature masking, phase shield, emergency shield boost) out the window when comparing ships
Hey ! Ion it and you will that the guard take a lot more dammages… No I’m not saying that the Ion Diffuser shut down the phase shield
Imperial commands can solo guards if flown right if given bubble guns.
Every ship can solo a Guard. Some of them with more difficulty than other. If they let a guard hug them like I use to see, no wonder why they are crying.
Have you seen how hard effective CovOps hit? I’ve seen mine do 2k crits, 100% of the time. It’s definitely the hammer. Maybe a wooden hammer, but definitely one.
I think the word is glass cannon. And a big one. And also quite glassy.
Concerning the empire engineers, I don’t think they are the hammers, in fact their damage is the worst of all frigates (guards have a nice bonus to damage thanks to phase shield bonus)
The problem is that the imperial ones can take a beating and win you in attrition. Also, most players forget about the autonomous repair stations and don’t destroy them before killing the engineer.
It’s prove that if you start to understand the"game’s mechanics" against guards you will find them really easier to kill.
It’s far easier to blame a ship than find its weakness.
I’m flying a Guard since I started the game and I have no Problem to kill them with my other ships. Even in a 3v3 With bots
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They’re supposed to be support vessels, not 1v1 combat vessels
Guard Frigates can fulfill the role of defenders in the rear as well as powerful ships causing a breakthrough.
Directly Copy/Past from the Ships Role devblog.
They can be fitted to be Defender (aka Support) as well as a SpearHead (aka Assault).
So once again, it’s not only a support Ship.
And what you said isn’t true for t5 guards
3 types of T5 Guards, 3 differents Gameplay, with one of them more versatile than the 2 other.
Same counter than in T3 with sometime little variation. But if you fail, the punishment is harder to compensate due to the Implants _ like all the other ships. _
_ Outsmart/Outposition/Outplay them isn’t hard _
I came to ask exactly the same.
The Alligator MkIII have been renamed into “Valor” xD
You seem to be participating in a different conversation. I’m not asking how to counter a guard :facepalm: Neither did i ask how to outsmart the guard pilots. Most aren’t smart anyway.
I was talking about how you’re comparing two different kind of ships by simply looking at their survivability
Every ship can solo a Guard
what you said isn’t true for t5 guards
This is what i was referring to
Not every ship can
I don’t want to discuss it any further as its pointless.
You seem to be participating in a different conversation. I’m not asking how to counter a guard :facepalm: Neither did i ask how to outsmart the guard pilots. Most aren’t smart anyway.
I was talking about how you’re comparing two different kind of ships by simply looking at their survivability
This is what i was referring to
Not every ship can
I don’t want to discuss it any further as its pointless.
Did you realize, I quoted your text before you edited your message?
Did you realize, I quoted your text before you edited your message?
Yes, i removed that because of the same reason, i don’t want to discuss it anymore. Guards will never be OP enough for some, so why should i bother reasoning with them
