Star Conflict OBT v.0.9.13 Discussion

You must be in completely different games than the ones I’ve been in. I see Empire ships actually be nimbler than Jericho ones…

Just some examples: Tripled CD on EB, CD on EB continues after death, CD nerf on survival modules and Implants, ship layouts without wildcard passives… etc. 

If you really think that overall survivability hasnt reduced A LOT, maybe you are playing a different game.   

 

And I have enough of that killed by random stuff. So dont nerf Emps, instead buff Jerries. 

Katana AE was once the Int-Killer per excellence… what a trashcan is it today? 

 

 

Thats what im talking, they have resistances that pugs dont. But even their fed engie melted with that. Hehehe Altough they seems to be somehow abusing the MM, since they arent being pushed up against T4 like other people are, by looking at their ships, equipments and SR’s.

 

Pro tip: Use Rank 8 or Premiums for better MM. On the other hand I really dont understand the MM mechanics atm.

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New-Years hangover, huh?  :lol: 

It also can be a horrible ship if you keep getting into small matches.

first off thats why i also run a styx, secondly i absolutely IGNORED the opponents in a 2v2 detonation because i could stun them and plant the bomb at my leisure

Pro tip: Use Rank 8 or Premiums for better MM. On the other hand I really dont understand the MM mechanics atm.

> better MM

 

You mean abusing the MM.

> better MM

 

You mean abusing the MM.

 

Abuse?

Abuse?

Yes, using Premium/R8 ships on a 4-man squad apparently KEEPS you in T3.

Yes, using Premium/R8 ships on a 4-man squad apparently KEEPS you in T3.

I still fail to see the abusive behavior in that… 

Understand Mechanics and act accordingly. Its nothing new btw. (except for the 4-man instead 3-man part)

No, they  dont!!!

 

 

They spend the whole last patches to buff them ! Ignoring the problem !

Looks the Passiv  bonus on all Empire Ships ! Compare them to the 2 other factions !

Look the Sword S (rank 15 command) and look the Aura (Rank 14 Command) Everything is wrong !

It’s not only tanking ! 

 

Buffing shield will just UP once Again Empire ships with shield Slot !

And it’s not hard to understand that the NUKEM I is a goddamn P2W ships with the actual hull tanking mechanics and modules aka Vernier Engine !

 

And for the Ion Emitter read the weapon description !

It graduatly ignoring 100 resistances pts in 1.3 secondes !

And you are talking about Stacking resistances? With a weapon that can litteraly anihilate 1 Complete thermal Resistance module?

 

And yes Premium Ships have a special place in the MM.

 

Pro tip: Use Rank 8 or Premiums for better MM. On the other hand I really dont understand the MM mechanics atm.

 

I did, used my Nukem 1, and even thou my SR was around 1300 i’ve being putted against 4-man ESB squad with average 1800SR flying premium ships. And in the game was also pug people with 1000 Sr, but on my side, while theirs their pugs were 1500+… Getting tired of the crazy things this MM is doing, and as i can see ESB loves to abuse a faulty mechanic.

They spend the whole last patches to buff them ! Ignoring the problem !

Looks the Passiv  bonus on all Empire Ships ! Compare them to the 2 other factions !

Look the Sword S (rank 15 command) and look the Aura (Rank 14 Command) Everything is wrong !

It’s not only tanking ! 

 

Buffing shield will just UP once Again Empire ships with shield Slot !

And it’s not hard to understand that the NUKEM I is a goddamn P2W ships with the actual hull tanking mechanics and modules aka Vernier Engine !

 

And for the Ion Emitter read the weapon description !

It graduatly ignoring 100 resistances pts in 1.3 secondes !

And you are talking about Stacking resistances? With a weapon that can litteraly anihilate 1 Complete thermal Resistance module?

 

And yes Premium Ships have a special place in the MM.

 

TLDR: My Guard is not OP enough… buhuuuuu

 

Is it that what ur saying?

I did, used my Nukem 1, and even thou my SR was around 1300 i’ve being putted against 4-man ESB squad with average 1800SR flying premium ships. And in the game was also pug people with 1000 Sr, but on my side, while theirs their pugs were 1500+… Getting tired of the crazy things this MM is doing, and as i can see ESB loves to abuse a faulty mechanic.

 

We like to squad up. You should try it from time to time.  :beee:

They spend the whole last patches to buff them ! Ignoring the problem !

Looks the Passiv  bonus on all Empire Ships ! Compare them to the 2 other factions !

Look the Sword S (rank 15 command) and look the Aura (Rank 14 Command) Everything is wrong !

It’s not only tanking ! 

 

Buffing shield will just UP once Again Empire ships with shield Slot !

And it’s not hard to understand that the NUKEM I is a goddamn P2W ships with the actual hull tanking mechanics and modules aka Vernier Engine !

 

And for the Ion Emitter read the weapon description !

It graduatly ignoring 100 resistances pts in 1.3 secondes !

And you are talking about Stacking resistances? With a weapon that can litteraly anihilate 1 Complete thermal Resistance module?

 

And yes Premium Ships have a special place in the MM.

 

Yes, ion emitter nullfies up to 100 resists in thermal, but it is not the ion emmiter that broke down and become OP, its the megaultra nerf to the guards that turned them into fragile things, otherwise the guards would easily achieve 200 resists to withstand the 100 lost by the ion. But i think with purples u can achieve 200 resists cant you? Putting 2 thermal hardeners and with the phase shield. Just will make the guard a hell of a fragile glass to any other element being fired upon.

 

But on the other side, on interceptors it hits as any other weapon, unless the ceptor pilot is rubish and fly slow and straight line, then they blow up in 1.3 sec.

We like to squad up. You should try it from time to time.  :beee:

 

Well, what you like is not to squad up, is to create a circumstance where only you guys win, so i wonder, whats the fun in stomping everyone? Why instead of making 1 big 4-man squad make 2 2-man so you can fight eachother in diferent sides of the battle? Oh, i forgot, you (i dont mean you specifically zapp, ive seen you squadding with other people too, and many times lost the match, but since you are prob the only ESB that visit the english forum, turns out you hear the bashes) dont like to really have to fight to win a battle.

 

Abuse?

Maybe, maybe not.

But some of us are tired of all that crap so we started doing this in WPK (at least when i’m on and rounding people up) and we’re slaugthering everyone with the same ease as ESB. Not to mention the rage and complaints from randoms. I tell them to grow some balls and face us and ESB because we’re training our squad synergy for them. Then they cry ‘but there’s no ESB here, buhuu :’( ’ which gets a simple ‘So?’. And etc.

 

 

Then, Jeri vs Fed vs Empire subject.

Speeds nerfed across the board, this includes Feds that because of higher numbers tend to feel a percentage decrease a lot worse, and keeping the paper thin tank.

Shields nerfed across the board, bye bye Jeri.

I don’t recall anything about empire, except Adaptive Shield receiving hull buffs as well which i abused the hell out of in the tournament (see my Wolf M running around in the very limits of low hull hp without worrying about it too much).

One thing shield tanking lacks is a resist increasing mod across the board like Galvanized Armor which is being abused incredibly on empire ships (why do you think empire death squads can tank everything?). They also lack strength amounts compared to hull, and they also lack resistances. The only Jeri ships i fly now are generally ECMs and every now and then the Katana S (which tanks energy, not shield).

Well, what you like is not to squad up, is to create a circumstance where only you guys win, so i wonder, whats the fun in stomping everyone? Why instead of making 1 big 4-man squad make 2 2-man so you can fight eachother in diferent sides of the battle? Oh, i forgot, you (i dont mean you specifically zapp, ive seen you squadding with other people too, and many times lost the match, but since you are prob the only ESB that visit the english forum, turns out you hear the bashes) dont like to really have to fight to win a battle.

 

If MM lets us win…

 

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Besides that: Who whit a right mind would weaken his own strenght? 

If I meet other ESB members in the other team i fight them. But if you are not willing to squad up… maybe its YOUR fault and not ESBs. Is it that hard to squad up??? 

Do you really think that I still would play the game if I had no possibility to squad up? I mean thats the main incentive of an MMO! And yea, a good squad is of course better than some randoms. And that is pretty much naturally.

Are you saying that Squads are OP?!? You have the same possibility!  Just.Squad.Up!!! 

 

It isnt that hard. 

 

Actually all the nerfs and painful MM in the last time to nerf squads… its a wrong way. Catering solo players is the wrong direction. And Im happy that atm. I can finally fly in 4-man-squads. 

 

 

Maybe, maybe not.

But some of us are tired of all that crap so we started doing this in WPK (at least when i’m on and rounding people up) and we’re slaugthering everyone with the same ease as ESB. Not to mention the rage and complaints from randoms. I tell them to grow some balls and face us and ESB because we’re training our squad synergy for them. Then they cry ‘but there’s no ESB here, buhuu :’( ’ which gets a simple ‘So?’. And etc.

 

You are not a nice person either… XD  But for real, with those situations, im avoiding T3 PVP because of that, and i bet much more people are avoiding it too because of those bugged killsquads. Also, ive noticed that it doesnt even balance things for real, for example, if they are doing 4-man squad, on the other side should have another 4-man squad right? But thats not happening, the GENIUS matchmaking just takes 2 2man squad and consider it equal…

 

Then, Jeri vs Fed vs Empire subject.

Speeds nerfed across the board, this includes Feds that because of higher numbers tend to feel a percentage decrease a lot worse, and keeping the paper thin tank.

Shields nerfed across the board, bye bye Jeri.

I don’t recall anything about empire, except Adaptive Shield receiving hull buffs as well which i abused the hell out of in the tournament (see my Wolf M running around in the very limits of low hull hp without worrying about it too much).

One thing shield tanking lacks is a resist increasing mod across the board like Galvanized Armor which is being abused incredibly on empire ships (why do you think empire death squads can tank everything?). They also lack strength amounts compared to hull, and they also lack resistances. The only Jeri ships i fly now are generally ECMs and every now and then the Katana S (which tanks energy, not shield).

 

I can vouch for that, ive bought a nukem on the discount and putted one blue galvanized and a white one, together with 1 kinetic hardener, and it has around 120 in all resists. And you cant no matter what have that stats on a shield tanked thing unless you use that adaptative shield and a ship with infinite afterburner and keep flying like a madman while trying to hit anything.

 

You are not a nice person either… XD

Yep, i gave up thinking i’m in Disneyland and said ‘Screw this, kill them all and let the MM decide stuff because i can’t.’ I still think 0.8 MM was best (or damn close to).

So… whats so special about 0.8mm?

So… whats so special about 0.8mm?

Locked tiers for instance and no catering of solo-players.