Guys, really, could you somehow prepare before posting these statements?
Check this
separate survey on russian forums.
This is the results for EN Survey made for the EN Speaking Community… Russians players had their own survey with their own results.
When you try to use arguments, verify at least they are correct.
Fire rate cap, it is no longer 300 :006j:
I am sure you can come up with a build or 2 to benefit from it
WAIT WHAT.
Interesting thing about surveys
- English survey
– How did you find out about the game?? Top answer- On steam 44%
- Ru survey
– How did you find out about the game?? Top answer - youtube 37% (steam answer is 13%)
See this is exactly why most gamers think F2P is cancer and do their best to stay away.
While the few contaminated fanboys will defend it to the end.
This game actually had a decent monetisation model before, but now it’s completely fubar.
lol, yeah they stay away from it, except well a few like lol, dota2, wot, warthunder, armored warfare, warframe, wowarships, planetside, hots, …
there is nothing wrong with the monetization, only the continuous expansion of the resource system, while keeping it a personal resource, constantly pushing endgame further away. it is nearly inconsequential if you are a vet or a new player, the new ships take forever to grind, and again, pvp does not offer the resources, and the missions are still one or the other.
so while i agree there are problems, i dunno if the destros are the main issue here, more like diminishing social features, and pointless grind must-dos
it does not feel rewarding like this.
it does not feel as if someone has actually done it by himself early so it can be just to test out how fast people get there, but the problem is, even as of today, there is no option for me with monos either to finish my missions in pvp instead of somewhere else, so i am forced to play parts i dont want to play, because they are simply just grind to me; so i dunno maybe you mean the chests, but yeah, thats horrible.
My own thoughts on this patch
for the balance of the destros, i only saw them in the early patch until now, and i found them fun to fight against. it is a promising concept. too bad you cant ride it with two pilots, it could need a gunner.
the gameplay probably still could need a brainstorm in the whole spawning concept it has atm., since i see more potential in this.
i dont own a destro, but the controls with ctrl seemed intuitive as choice, which i would have chosen aswell (in fact i implemented that myself once), way earlier to be honest in the general controls, the other way around, the ctrl camera and its independent zoom factor was/is a nuisance to me, if i could bind the free look cam to the mouse cam, even optionally, this system would stay intuitive and also be useful the other way around. maybe someone likes the independent free look cam, i dont.
the new hud elements are cool, the new ship tree needs a bit more visual clues as it is like browsing a web page, maybe with colors or lines, but i am just saying what my layouter would probably tell me, and now he would probably tell me i am wrong, so its okay.
for the assigning missions part, it is really annoying now that you have to add each ship slot manually, assigning a ship should move you forward to the next slot. it is really nice to see the percentages there on the ships, why not display it everywhere.
WAIT WHAT.
yep
WAIT WHAT.
Meson Cannon dude.
500 RPM ! IZI PZ HITTZI NOTHINZI CUZ SPREADZI
yep
Meson Cannon dude.
500 RPM ! IZI PZ HITTZI NOTHINZI CUZ SPREADZI
shhhh, guys
Interesting thing about surveys
- English survey
– How did you find out about the game?? Top answer- On steam 44%
- Ru survey
– How did you find out about the game?? Top answer - youtube 37% (steam answer is 13%)
This means nothing, because finding out about the game is one thing. Playing the game on a regular basis is another.
But I’m sure this doesn’t even make sense to you. I’m clearly wasting my time here.
yep
Meson Cannon dude.
500 RPM ! IZI PZ HITTZI NOTHINZI CUZ SPREADZI
Ha, I thought the 500RPM was exclusive to the Meson but apparently it isn’t!
Heavy blaster and assault rail users, REJOICE! Now I kinda want to build a 500 RPM assault rail gunship… Good god the crits.
[ECM buff]
At last someone noticed it.
As a player i can say that ecm’s are pain for me (maybe it’s just lack of my skill)
As a CM i can say that this decision is based on russian feedback. But i’ll discuss it with our balance-guru again.
With all due respect, Doomb0t, but I did bring it up pages ago. I know there are many posts in this thread and it’s difficult to respond to each one of them, but I can’t help thinking that you’re cherry-picking arguments, which makes your responses as chaotic as everything else in this thread, and it doesn’t help the discussion.
If I may, I’d suggest making three different official threads - one for destroyers, one for changes to the meta-game (so ECM’s and SP ships), and one for the new aesthetics? It will be much easier to see what has and what has not been addressed yet, and there’s lots of stuff to discuss.
lol, yeah they stay away from it, except well a few like lol, dota2, wot, warthunder, armored warfare, warframe, wowarships, planetside, hots, …
there is nothing wrong with the monetization, only the continuous expansion of the resource system, while keeping it a personal resource, constantly pushing endgame further away. it is nearly inconsequential if you are a vet or a new player, the new ships take forever to grind, and again, pvp does not offer the resources, and the missions are still one or the other.
so while i agree there are problems, i dunno if the destros are the main issue here, more like diminishing social features, and pointless grind must-dos
it does not feel rewarding like this.
it does not feel as if someone has actually done it by himself early so it can be just to test out how fast people get there, but the problem is, even as of today, there is no option for me with monos either to finish my missions in pvp instead of somewhere else, so i am forced to play parts i dont want to play, because they are simply just grind to me; so i dunno maybe you mean the chests, but yeah, thats horrible.
My own thoughts on this patch
for the balance of the destros, i only saw them in the early patch until now, and i found them fun to fight against. it is a promising concept. too bad you cant ride it with two pilots, it could need a gunner.
the gameplay probably still could need a brainstorm in the whole spawning concept it has atm., since i see more potential in this.
i dont own a destro, but the controls with ctrl seemed intuitive as choice, which i would have chosen aswell (in fact i implemented that myself once), way earlier to be honest in the general controls, the other way around, the ctrl camera and its independent zoom factor was/is a nuisance to me, if i could bind the free look cam to the mouse cam, even optionally, this system would stay intuitive and also be useful the other way around. maybe someone likes the independent free look cam, i dont.
the new hud elements are cool, the new ship tree needs a bit more visual clues as it is like browsing a web page, maybe with colors or lines, but i am just saying what my layouter would probably tell me, and now he would probably tell me i am wrong, so its okay.
for the assigning missions part, it is really annoying now that you have to add each ship slot manually, assigning a ship should move you forward to the next slot. it is really nice to see the percentages there on the ships, why not display it everywhere.
thanks for constructive criticism g4borg.
Times are negotiable, for example, leagues time for NA have already been changed (we’ll make an announcment next week)
That’s fine and I get what you are trying to do. IMO it’s just still not the way to go for the casual players. The ones who may be willing
to spend money to speed up progress (if of course the transactions were much more micro). Either way like I said, the game is not really being targeted toward
players like me. And that’s fine if that’s what you want.
The game is still fun for now, it just would be so much more fun if less time was spent onnew gimmicks and gadgets rather than the social aspect (IMO of course)
of the game.
I was just a little miffed that my octopus is now not in my reach again because someone put my carrot on a much longer stick.
With all due respect, Doomb0t, but I did bring it up pages ago.
sorry i forget about this. 13 pages…
(and only 6 on russian forums)
If I may, I’d suggest making three different official threads - one for destroyers, one for changes to the meta-game (so ECM’s and SP ships), and one for the new aesthetics?
for me it’s harder to sit in 3 hot threads at the same time, besides you need to moderate these thread becuae the possibility of offtop in each thread it very high.
Doomb0t, this game should have at least 50k active players minimum! It could easily have around 500k players, if I would be in charge there!
Why do you think that you lose so much players? If you’re satisfied with this, then you’re doomed to fail, Doomb0t.
After 2 to 3 updates, especially after release and balancing of all Destroyers, start to actively promote the game. I see no active paid advertisement whatsoever. Steam should be your first matter of choice.
Commercial Department is not doing its job. Contact people, who already reviewed your game in the past!
TotalBiscuit, The Cynical Brit on YouTube should be your first choice. The old review of the game is from March 2013! It needs and should be updated!
About 1.3.1 update: Good in general, the best so far is an inclusion of customizable synergy rank bonuses and especially and most importantly, the ability to refit your ship for no other cost than just regular credits!
I cannot comment on Destroyers. I will buy only T5 ones, so I will wait. Hopefully T4 and T5 will be released within 1 month period.
1.3.1 review score: 9/10
sorry i forget about this. 13 pages…
(and only 6 on russian forums)
Well, don’t worry about it, my point was that this thread really needs to be guided in the right direction. Too many topics going on around here, with too many posts being flung about.
Interesting thing about surveys
- English survey
– How did you find out about the game?? Top answer- On steam 44%
- Ru survey
– How did you find out about the game?? Top answer - youtube 37% (steam answer is 13%)
how did you find out about a game, and how do you access it, are still two different things.
there is way more russian youtube content. I also found out about dayZ over youtube, and played it early without steam with a retail arma 2 cd, but I woke up to reality man, and realize, that steam has just won and will continue to grow, and hanging on to anything else is just romanticism, like trying to be another facebook. it works only because there are always ideologistic or individualistic people around, but the mainstream is and will be steam, even if the marketshare is regionally lower somewhere on the globe for now.
we can either talk personal preference, or business logic, and after business logic, steam is the primary resource for international audience.
Doomb0t, this game should have at least 50k active players minimum! It could easily have around 500k players, if I would be in charge there!
Why do you think that you lose so much players? If you’re satisfied with this, then you’re doomed to fail, Doomb0t.
After 2 to 3 updates, especially after release and balancing of all Destroyers, start to actively promote the game. I see no active paid advertisement whatsoever. Steam should be your first matter of choice.
Commercial Department is not doing its job. Contact people, who already reviewed your game in the past!
TotalBiscuit, The Cynical Brit on YouTube should be your first choice. The old review of the game is from March 2013! It needs and should be updated!
About 1.3.1 update: Good in general, the best so far is an inclusion of customizable synergy rank bonuses and especially and most importantly, the ability to refit your ship for no other cost than just regular credits!
I cannot comment on Destroyers. I will buy only T5 ones, so I will wait. Hopefully T4 and T5 will be released within 1 month period.
1.3.1 review score: 9/10
Thanks Koromac, i understand your concern about advertising, but we can’t do anything about it (i mean steam) for now, but you are right about youtubers, they did perfect work with russian segment and we should try it with english one.
what devs need is to invest, you smoke what you roll.
Advertisement would get this game huge imo.
how did you find out about a game, and how do you access it, are still two different things.
there is way more russian youtube content. I also found out about dayZ over youtube, and played it early without steam with a retail arma 2 cd, but I woke up to reality man, and realize, that steam has just won and will continue to grow, and hanging on to anything else is just romanticism, like trying to be another facebook. it works only because there are always ideologistic or individualistic people around, but the mainstream is and will be steam, even if the marketshare is regionally lower somewhere on the globe for now.
we can either talk personal preference, or business logic, and after business logic, steam is the primary resource for international audience.
Yes, but trust me, majority of Russkies do not use Steam.
Steam is great platform for people that are BUYING games , for others it is inconvenience, just like Uplay or any similar platform forced by Publishers.