I hereby request, that I am given a chance to obtain the same ranked rewards, equal in type and quantity via special tasks/assignments or by means chosen by developers.
Jasan Quinn
What makes JC’s post even worse is reading it the same way as it would be said… Sure, I understand the points you’ve made and honestly, all are valid, but don’t you feel just a bit robbed?
It’s not like this entire game is made of CBAT level devoted players or some stupid crap like that, which is pretty much what they seem to picture of us.
Nothing has been taken from me, i am not ‘robbed’. I have had years of enjoyment in this game for the same cost to me as any other i have played for the same price and yet less playtime in them. Again, if its so easy for the newer guys, do they now present some sort of new threat? If they did wouldnt that be a good thing for higher rank play? ie better for vets overall.
And no the game does not consist of that level of devotion, so another reason why it makes sense for it to be easier for these players to attain a higher level of play. The reward listing is still nowhere near all the SPS/destros in the game and they have to have something else in the lineup to be competative. Additionally they have to level in an enviornment that is challenging even for vets now due to the destros, whining about destros, and ppl trying to play random pvp the same way in a new dynamic (also ship buying restrictions). Its no little thing for them it should not be for anyone else.
I understand the complaints about only possible part drops and hating doing open missions cause 3 take an hour for some ppl because of reasons. However rather than a reasonable conversation on more just rewards for vet level playing or a comprimise that might be reached we are now at the point where a handout is being asked for by the ‘elite’. That is what i cannot get behind. Call it ‘special missions’ or whatever you like, its a handout.
Its the last ill say on the subject, good luck widening the gap guys, i do actually hope u are successful.
It is clear why it is necessary to give these rewards for new players. There are destroyer related missions and achievements and with the old system it would take several months to join in in this kind of activities even after reaching the necessary level for open space farming. Rewards are all fine with me right until rank 9 and until players build their first ship. Although, I still don’t know why it is based on ranking up ships. It could be given for playing a certain number of PvPs. PvP, just like new players, needs support in every possible ways.
Plus, I noticed that the applications to my corp are so rare now (it might be the case only with my corp although I doubt it), I have to think that the number of new players is only a fraction of the one from last year. So it’s important to do something about this. I just don’t like how it is done.
There could be license rewards for ranking up instead of ship part giveaways especially after rank 9. This would make players play more and farming monocrystals would be more rewarding.
It is good that these rewards are not event related so everyone can get them equally. Except vets but its no big deal to me. I am not lobbying for freebies but for making the rewarding system better.
You seem to miss the point that these craftable ships were always billed as rare, end game content that not all players would get, and very few people would ever own them all.
Now every single player should be getting at least two of them just from progressing up the ship trees.
See the issue?
@JCNB
It’s not that I disagree with you entirely, but what you’re not seeing is that newbs, by the time they’ve maxed all their factions, will have more than most of us will have gained in that time, or ever.
I also would like it better if SP’s remained end-game content that’s difficult to obtain by everyone, and therefore more rewarding to own, but that’s not the case, since there’s a growing number of people who have laughably easy access to them, while the same level of accessibility is being denied to everyone else. That’s the crux of the problem.
However rather than a reasonable conversation on more just rewards for vet level playing or a comprimise that might be reached we are now at the point where a handout is being asked for by the ‘elite’. That is what i cannot get behind. Call it ‘special missions’ or whatever you like, its a handout.
Sorry, but that’s not true. It’s been, what, three weeks since that patch was released? I think that was long enough for devs to give an official statement. They did not, they didn’t say a word, they’re still not saying anything. How do you expect any compromises to happen if one of the sides ignores the other entirely?
That is why I keep saying give enough for the first destroyer then give something else after then. We had the 5th day license for example that helped a lot. I too would like to see secret projects as rare ships worth working for. I have farmed a lot for them hardly missing a day for the last 18 months so seeing this new system bugs me too. Especially because I almost always chose the ship instead of mk5 upgrades and I am sure lot of mk5s will fly around soon and I will still be there with mk4s.
I hereby request, that I am given a chance to obtain the same ranked rewards, equal in type and quantity via special tasks/assignments or by means chosen by developers.
Nostrum
I am and did
I do not agree
Proves nothing
To be clear, not trolling, i do not have everything in the game. But the NO is deserved here i think. This lauded work and support also contains a fair amount of n00b stomping and chat trolling, a double edged sword. Fact is with these rewards added i would likely have every grindable thing in the game and i am far from alone with that. I would suggest a middle ground however mediation and forum do not mix. If its so easy for new players then start an alt account and have a look at how easy it is (it is not, destro complaints are real). Also syn nerfing has gone uncommented on in these arguements, likely as it has went unnoticed by players who have everything maxed. I hear whining about premiums from such responses so the arguement seems for me to stem from wanting everything all at once. Well denied it seems and not without good reason, for a player such as myself that has paid as much for this game as any other title i have played to suddenly have everything is quite brutal.
It does not stack up right for me. There is little to no comment on people not getting destroyer materials as nobody knows quite what is coming, so the arguement seems rooted in T5 for vets. Which being destroyer free right now is kinda mad as its not its pokemon final form yet. Preferable would be T5 pvp mono/destro rewards or banana stickers or something for higher end gameplay but that is not the conversation. This is greed. Colour it how you like, but it is greed. These rewards do not get you everything alone and crafting your own ship how you like it should still be a big deal, not something that can be easily acheived nine times over on a whim. 5 ships 1 destro an i have dismantled twice.
TL/DR? I would still grab all these materials to make ships i’d rarely fly just because i could.
Synergy got nerfed in PVP, but like you said yourself - it’s silly effective to go on a synergy-hunt in open space - mono mission but also killing predators.
And No. You are not the one to decide or judge if this thread should deserve a No or not, since this matter clearly doesnt seem to bother you. It is not the greed, it is the principle. The change in Rules and treatment.
To be honest, I dont give a xxxx if I would have to grind AGAIN to get similar kind of rewards, it is the principle, this sudden new Star Conflict Code, this whole give new players rainbows and cupcakes with pink frosting-thingie. I dont understand it. I dont understand WHY, this is happening NOW, and not earlier. I want to know, I want to see the reason - and I also have my theories, but, I’d rather know the truth instead of jumping to conclusions or painting it in a color that suits me or with arrogance take the freedom to simplify it just because I dont want to think too much. (I doubt I will ever know the real reason so meanwhile Im gonna have to stick with my theories until someone bothers coming by and tell me how it really is).
And I also wonder… Why is it interesting or so important to someone to point out veterans as the root to every Star Conflict problem, but in this case also “unworthy”? Please, enlighten me someone, Im dying to know. Also, why where veterans not a big problem 1-2-3 years ago? Or where they, and it all got silenced down or what? And furthermore, only because someone points out a problem like; Vets are stomping no0bs -that’s not cool you have to stop! Well, did anyone ask themselves the reason behind this, or even, WHAT did the Developers DO to *prevent* this from happening? Did the *really* invent or implement the best solution, or did they just come up with *a* solution?? (Ohhh I see your leg hurts eh? WEll, lets just remove it then…btw, phantom pain is real too).
Me no likey The current Philosophy of SC: New player and butthurt? No problem; here have some cookies and hot choco. We will chase away the naughty vets for you…
Well i think JC is right
Synergy got nerfed in PVP, but like you said yourself - it’s silly effective to go on a synergy-hunt in open space - mono mission but also killing predators.
And No. You are not the one to decide or judge if this thread should deserve a No or not, since this matter clearly doesnt seem to bother you. It is not the greed, it is the principle. The change in Rules and treatment.
To be honest, I dont give a xxxx if I would have to grind AGAIN to get similar kind of rewards, it is the principle, this sudden new Star Conflict Codex, this whole give new players rainbows and cupcakes with pink frosting-thingie. I dont understand it. I dont understand WHY, this is happening NOW, and not earlier. I want to know, I want to see the reason - and I also have my theories, but, I’d rather know the truth instead of jumping to conclusions or painting it in a color that suits me or with arrogance take the freedom to simplify it just because I dont want to think too much. (I doubt I will ever know the real reason so meanwhile Im gonna have to stick with my theories until someone bothers coming by and tell me how it really is).
And I also wonder… Why is it interesting or so important to someone to point out veterans as the root to every Star Conflict problem, but in this case also “unworthy”? Please, enlighten me someone, Im dying to know. Also, why where veterans not a big problem 1-2-3 years ago? Or where they, and it all got silenced down or what? And furthermore, only because someone points out a problem like; Vets are stomping no0bs -that’s not cool you have to stop! Well, did anyone ask themselves the reason behind this, or even, WHAT did the Developers DO to *prevent* this from happening? Did the *really* invent or implement the best solution, or did they just come up with *a* solution?? (Ohhh I see your leg hurts eh? WEll, lets just remove it then…btw, phantom pain is real too).
Me no likey The current Philosophy of SC: New player and butthurt? No problem; here have some cookies and hot choco. We will chase away the naughty vets for you…
I said i was done and i am but please dont make my words something other than they are, ive said twice now that ill take these rewards just like everyone else if they are given out.
Open space syn is nerfed too + new guys cant exactly take any old ship to kill preds.
Im not deciding anything, tis just an opinion.
As i said new players are not really a threat no matter how many SP ships they get outta this, still have to level it, a whole bunch before it and gain the experience to fly/build it correctly. I did not say vets are a problem in regard to this. Only that many seem to have forgotten how difficult it is to level having done it already themselves under different conditions. So it becomes an issue of ‘just’ having to level and ‘laughably’ easy access. Something for nothing it is most certainly not.
I am not unsympathetic, for many players who just reached R15 it must be a real kick in the teeth. But what i see here its many players like myself who maxed out near everything an age ago and run every game mode with max syn mk4/5 now complaining that they dont have more. All because someone else seems to be getting something they are not. These alt account levelling numbers are ridiculous and do not represent how easy they are to get, only how easy it might be to a vet doing it all again.
Even then its not that easy.
18 months of mono missions w/o license is still roughly 3240 monos not counting random login drops. Not picking on you Sinaka but this is the colouring of perception im talking about. Its not accurate or fair to say that the oppurtunity has not been there for vets to make these ships and now new guys are having it given to them.
Still though gimme the stuff, thats the most honest anyone could be on this subject.
I hereby request, that I am given a chance to obtain the same ranked rewards, equal in type and quantity via special tasks/assignments or by means chosen by developers directly.
Pr0ximity
We, Veterans of the FrogSwarm corporation, represented by their Diplomate, Mormaz, hereby request, that we are given a chance to obtain the same ranked rewards, equal in type and quantity via special tasks/assignments or by means chosen by developers.
Sincerely,
FrogSwarm.
Veterans list below in spoiler.
kenchan
Magicus
Mormaz
Scyther
KrashDown
Metabaron
jra
Yoz7
Dashiell
Tarmac02
Silmerias
BELkrak
Blaast
Harlock
BAMBOO
P51DMustang
Rhemu
MADcompany
18 months of mono missions w/o license is still roughly 3240 monos not counting random login drops. Not picking on you Sinaka but this is the colouring of perception im talking about. Its not accurate or fair to say that the oppurtunity has not been there for vets to make these ships and now new guys are having it given to them.
Still though gimme the stuff, thats the most honest anyone could be on this subject.
I don’t mind the opinion of others even if that is different from mine.
My perception here is that giving 1200 monos for about one month playing will not make players stay. At least that is what I think atm.
Game making and running the business got trapped by all these new contents. Every 2nd months there is something new and unique stuff. Devs try to make these valuable compared to older contents. Then somehow turns out that getting all the contents for being able to participate in basic game modes and events takes ages and costs a lot in time (and money if someone decides to spend) so casual players give up early. Just like with dreads. Awesome, big content, nice visuals, game-play killed it. Tbh i would not mind not having anything new this year if devs would only work on the game-play of dreads, squad playing (like with the pva) and a little of open space mode.
I don’t mind the opinion of others even if that is different from mine.
My perception here is that giving 1200 monos for about one month playing will not make players stay. At least that is what I think atm.
Game making and running the business got trapped by all these new contents. Every 2nd months there is something new and unique stuff. Devs try to make these valuable compared to older contents. Then somehow turns out that getting all the contents for being able to participate in basic game modes and events takes ages and costs a lot in time (and money if someone decides to spend) so casual players give up early. Just like with dreads. Awesome, big content, nice visuals, game-play killed it. Tbh i would not mind not having anything new this year if devs would only work on the game-play of dreads, squad playing (like with the pva) and a little of open space mode.
Thunderous agreement
I agree completely with all arguments , for and against the reward.
I only have one question, where is my reward?
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I hereby request, that I am given a chance to obtain the same ranked rewards, equal in type and quantity via special tasks/assignments or by means chosen by developers.
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What happens when you directly jump 2 ranks in one faction…
for example: you are rank 9 in jericho and the next ship you buy is rank 11… do you receive the bonus for rank 10?
I hereby request, that I am given a chance to obtain the same ranked rewards, equal in type and quantity via special tasks/assignments or by means chosen by developers.
IGN: OmegaFighter
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What happens when you directly jump 2 ranks in one faction…
for example: you are rank 9 in jericho and the next ship you buy is rank 11… do you receive the bonus for rank 10?
yes I think so