removal of teamwork in T5 - 2 player squad waiting times

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I do not want to play this game anymore.

I remember the old times, when you could have it all.

Good old teamwork.

Matches against other teams.

Short waiting times.

A lot of player activity.

 

 

Such time have passed now.

Now you get punished by squading with 2 men squad.

Insane waiting times.

Low or diminishing player activity.

 

 

Whole MM system needs to get reworked and it needs to be multi-layered.

 

Basic mode - no groups

Intermediate mode - groups allowed (2-4 players)

Expert mode - Wings allowed (8-12 players)

 

At least, T5 should not have such restrictions anymore!

PVP has been a solo gamemode for a long time now…

I also really wish playing with a friend or multiple friends was fixed.  Sometimes they’re not even friends you just want to play with them. I think its in star conflicts best interest to let us play with each other.  Honestly playing with your self is fun, but not as fun as playing with 4 others.  Sometimes I introduce new players to this game and the first thing they ask me is can we play with each other.  “Yes we can but not in that special way” (PVP).

I don t like having to tell friends or random people we can t play with each other.

 

In conclusion let us play with each other. As eventually playing with your self gets boring.

“playing with yoursefl” hurr hurr hurr  :rudolf:

I’d be okay with a squad of 2 - 3 players only. I mean more than this would instantly destroy the other team if they have no squads. I can’t play with my friends pvp at all nowadays. :confused:

 

I thought of something before, maybe the number of squad players is effected by how many players are in the enemy team? For example, if the enemy team have 6 players, your team can have 4 players without squad, and 2 players in squad, which means 2 random guys will join the match with you and your mate in the same second, so then it becomes 6 vs 6. And if enemy have 8, then it’s 3 players squad, annnd you get the idea.

Work as intended guys. I wuold like to see squads free to play as they want in t5. But it’s not gonna happen.

Not so long ago i’ve posted a reply by Lesort took from the russian forum here somewhere. They have absolutly no intention to reintroduce squads not even in t5… “Endgame”.
Cheer up they say! We have that mighty boredom, stupid, overplayed unfunny at all thing: called leagues 5vs5!

Bah

I thought it was impossible…  zpXGimP.jpg

But really the game is worthless outside of squad gameplay.

I really enjoyed star conflict 5-6 months ago, as it had the option to play in squads with friends, teammates etc. It was possible to do tactics and maneuvers as a squad - it was awesome!!. Now squads are reduced to maximum 2 players, and you will have to sit in hangar for at least 15 minutes to get a game.

Pvp:
Now its kinda like “derp conflict” in pvp - everyone derping around on their own. We had some truly amazing battles in the past with nice teams (squads vs squads) Actually i believe Matchmaker was better?
Also I Like the social part of gaming - co-op - not just flying around getting some kills now and then, and so do a lot of other players. 

This is the reason why I, and so many others, stopped playing the game.

I know squads had some issues, but at least let us play squads in tier 5?

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MMO ain’t MMO if squads ain’t a thing in the main thing of the game, which is PvP.

2 man squads should not be penalized by the MM, considering the size of most battles, 2 man squads will not make that much difference.

 

But I want 4 man squads back. They were fun, especially when facing other 4 man squads of similar or better skill (only way to learn).

 

Leagues are ok, but very limiting, as not all of your team is always on at the same time. It was great to be able to log in, say hi in corp chat or contact your mates and then squad up for some pvp fun. That is all gone now, very very sad.

The devs need to make it so 2-man squads don’t need a squad on the other team to get a game. This change was implemented in July, 2015, and was a resounding success (aside from the bugs). It was taken down to fix those bugs, and the promise was made “we’ll reimplement when the bugs are fixed.”

 

Here we are, 6 months later, and the change still hasn’t been reimplemented. This is quite insulting, as this promise was made to us back in July, but yet not a word has been said about it, despite all the questions month after month…

The devs need to make it so 2-man squads don’t need a squad on the other team to get a game

This please. It’s the perfect fix to squad waiting times and encourages squads as opposed to the current system which strongly discourages forming squads… not many want to wait a long time for some other squad to maybe queue up.

 

While you’re at it, bring back big squads. Surely there can be other ways to fix the balancing problem without straight up removing the best part of the game?

The only reason I got started here is because I could play with the people who introduced me to this game. I doubt I would’ve given it a chance otherwise

https://forum.star-conflict.com/index.php?/topic/28948-post-mortem/?p=343937

Squads matchmake is awful - we all see it… Its too sad but as it is now mm blindly punishes those who want to play with friends so both pro and new players suffer. I’d welcome any change in that policy.

Situation with Leagues has already improved, more and more people play this mode, yes, there are some restrictions (besides I admit that time is not convenient for North America), but they are really needed for squad gameplay in Star Conflict. Feedback and stats approve that game has become more friendly for newbies. 

About 2 men squads, they are still OP against solo players, that’s why we can’t let them queue with others. Extremely low amount of them shows that not so many people want to play squads in random pvp now.

Situation with Leagues has already improved, more and more people play this mode, yes, there are some restrictions (besides I admit that time is not convenient for North America), but they are really needed for squad gameplay in Star Conflict. Feedback and stats approve that game has become more friendly for newbies. 

About 2 men squads, they are still OP against solo players, that’s why we can’t let them queue with others. Extremely low amount of them shows that not so many people want to play squads in random pvp now.

Really… you’re daydreaming… and now I am angry! 2 men squads are OP? Implement multi-layered MM system! I want to have a choice! Not enough players? There is no advertisement or investment in those!

Waiting 30 minutes to get 1 lousy T5 (rank 13-15 match)? Servers are unstable, because they were not calibrated or reset for a long time now.

Only minority of people want this group thing? I spoke to 60 people and they all want such option in PvP as well! Squadding is good and it should be ESSENTIAL for such game!

 

I DO NOT want to play SOLO in PvP! I want to play PvP battles with friends, like I used to, when it was challenging and exciting! Against 2-4 men squads, even if they were more of them! Now I just don’t play at all.

You get matches when MM will assign 3 engineers to enemy team, while ours have 0 of them.

Good and smart veterans will use TS3 communication. Newbies won’t. And because of this, you think that squad concept is OP! This is getting tiresome!

This game promotes itself as an MMO!  :014j:  This is a dirty lie!

 

There are things, which are different with established veterans.

 

Veterans: (mostly ignored now for the sake of $$$)

They got solid, if not top knowledge about the game’s mechanics in general.

Skill, which is correctly utilized and supplemented by other allied players.

More patience.

Communication, where you give only essential orders and constructive and necessary feedback.

 

 

Newbies: (they bring cash and now they are the golden goose)

Minimal skill or knowledge of the mechanics.

Minimal experience.

Almost no patience.

Usually no communication.

 

 

You listen to newbies instead of good and experienced veterans, because you only think about $$$ and nothing else. You abandoned the concept of rational thinking and progressive behavior.

There were other possible solutions in place, but you selected the worst possible scenario, when it comes to online competitiveness and squad mechanics.

 

 

I am about to ditch this game and write an objective, credible and professional, but negative review and spread it with all means available, based on almost 10k hours of gameplay and from the feedback of other players.

Review is going to be solid and it will impact you and your game in some way. It’s not about the revenge, but it’s about getting the message.

People don’t queue in squads because they don’t want to wait, not because they don’t want to. Tried to queue with a frie d yesyerday and we waited 5 minutes without getting a game

I am missing the squad playing in pvp too. Although, I am not a big squad fun. Maybe squads should be put in a few ranks higher PvPs than their ships they are queuing with.

People don’t queue in squads because they don’t want to wait, not because they don’t want to. Tried to queue with a frie d yesyerday and we waited 5 minutes without getting a game

Well, they don’t queue because they don’t to wait, but they wait because they don’t queue.

Apart what Millan said, people are playing more the “leagues” 'cause of the monocristal rewards from miss frost missions. Even a blind guy could see that…