Regarding Guard Frigates

I think with around 4000 games on guards I know the subject about retreat with a Jericho Guard.

The thing is, there are no % damage weapons, so there is no reason not to go for resists. At least i don’t see any.

It’s best to focus on the shield’s defense. The resistance added with 300ish+ regeneration ps. 100+ resists on each part of the shield will help allot more. With the two shield regeneration modules (normal and the emergency) the shield tank will be worth much more than any build shown thus far.

I think with around 4000 games on guards I know the subject about retreat with a Jericho Guard.

i played a game w/ u and u were usin blood tormentor, were the beam cannons on purpose or did u just unlock the ship and u were too excited to equip another weapon?

The thing is, there are no % damage weapons, so there is no reason not to go for resists. At least i don’t see any.

The only reason to put some resistances is just to not have any Malus due to negative Resistances.

 

It’s best to focus on the shield’s defense. The resistance added with 300ish+ regeneration ps. 100+ resists on each part of the shield will help allot more. With the two shield regeneration modules (normal and the emergency) the shield tank will be worth much more than any build shown thus far.

When I look at your fitting I’m saying :

 

_Using Capacitor for Energy is too mainstream

_Using Hull modifier for Resistances is too mainstream

_Using the Phase Shield is too mainstream.

 

The job of a guard is not to survive, let this to Interceptors and Fighters Pilots, the True job of a Guard is to make its death useful.

Somebody says to me a long time ago :

“The best way to win a game is to try to keep alive a Guard who don’t mind to die”

The Guards are not means to play for the Skill Rating or any Statistics, you play it for the team and for the Victory.

 

i played a game w/ u and u were usin blood tormentor, were the beam cannons on purpose or did u just unlock the ship and u were too excited to equip another weapon?

I like the Beam Cannon, they are scalling really well with the guard, and it’s even better if the guard have at least 1 CPU.

In fact, I find the Beam Cannon really powerful on a Guard cause they force you to have a good positionning and to use correctly the Phase Shield to have a +25% Dammages.

Secondly, it’s the only weapon that have no malus (like Slow barrel / Charging mechanics or Progressive RoF / Progressive Spread or Stupid Firing Barrel Rotation / -50% dammages against interceptors) 

I like the Beam Cannon, they are scalling really well with the guard, and it’s even better if the guard have at least 1 CPU.

In fact, I find the Beam Cannon really powerful on a Guard cause they force you to have a good positionning and to use correctly the Phase Shield to have a +25% Dammages.

Secondly, it’s the only weapon that have no malus (like Slow barrel / Charging mechanics or Progressive RoF / Progressive Spread or Stupid Firing Barrel Rotation / -50% dammages against interceptors)

but guards r soooooooooo slowwwww -_- and the beam cannon range is only 2250 so unless u have flat reflector and horizon ur gonna haf to chase after them on a GUARD but i was cornered :slight_smile: so i dropped a mine layer before i died and i hoped u would run into it

but guards r soooooooooo slowwwww -_- and the beam cannon range is only 2250 so unless u have flat reflector and horizon ur gonna haf to chase after them on a GUARD but i was cornered :slight_smile: so i dropped a mine layer before i died and i hoped u would run into it

I have 4790m on my Beam Cannon.

And A Minelayer is like a Mosquito, 1 is not a problem…

And A Minelayer is like a Mosquito, 1 is not a problem…

 

Except if it’s infected. And they are infected… umm, this analogy is not working anymore.

As soon as I can get a new computer, Rakza, we’re having a shooting match. Here’s the link to the two builds, for those that don’t know. [http://forum.star-conflict.com/index.php?/topic/21967-inquisitor-build/page-5](< base_url >/index.php?/topic/21967-inquisitor-build/page-5)

As soon as I can get a new computer, Rakza, we’re having a shooting match. Here’s the link to the two builds, for those that don’t know. [http://forum.star-conflict.com/index.php?/topic/21967-inquisitor-build/page-5](< base_url >/index.php?/topic/21967-inquisitor-build/page-5)

 

Yes please I want to see who is the guard master

I have 4790m on my Beam Cannon.

And A Minelayer is like a Mosquito, 1 is not a problem…

pls tell me where u get that range from. And mosquitoes can kill, parasites,infections,malaria…

 

x2 Horizon + Range Ammo.

x2 Horizon + Range Ammo.

 

The Implant which extends optimum and max range 20% as well.   ( forgot which level and there was something else that it does as well) 

The Implant which extends optimum and max range 20% as well.   ( forgot which level and there was something else that it does as well) 

 

Afaik Rakza uses Empire crit implant, not Fed 

 

 

The main point when you buff your Shield Size is “What Kind of Fitting are you using”. The fitting on my Inquisitor S is not mean to be on the frontline. That’s why I was buffing my shield Size.

If I have to use a FrontLine Guard, first It will not be a Jericho Guard, secondly, that will never be this fitting.

 

In T5 Guards can’t tank due to the Dammages Implants Snowball.

I could explain a lot more but I’m too lazy xD

 

The point is that guards die esily. And don’t kill that much compared to oher ship roles… tbh atm i can’t find a good use for trex mk II yet. A command aura seems to be a better guard than the TRex… I think devs should change something. Maybe resist, maybe a new special active module that can make this ships more viable… but something has to be done. Once upon a time we used to say that u need team attack to take down a guard… It’s so false now… Everyone can take out a guard solo, with any kind of ship atm… the only thing you need is enough time!

 

I have 4790m on my Beam Cannon.

And A Minelayer is like a Mosquito, 1 is not a problem…

 

So rakza u find the new beam better that positron…? Wouldn’t it be better putting a positron on already having a good range?

The point is that guards die esily. And don’t kill that much compared to oher ship roles… tbh atm i can’t find a good use for trex mk II yet. A command aura seems to be a better guard than the TRex… I think devs should change something. Maybe resist, maybe a new special active module that can make this ships more viable… but something has to be done. Once upon a time we used to say that u need team attack to take down a guard… It’s so false now… Everyone can take out a guard solo, with any kind of ship atm… the only thing you need is enough time!

So rakza u find the new beam better that positron…? Wouldn’t it be better putting a positron on already having a good range?

it says increases shield resistanceg by 150 pts for the slected dmg type. But get this:EACH PROJECTILE THAT HITS IT IS LOWERED BY 150 PTS so someone using railgun or rf blaster would have a harder time than someone using bubbles

it says lowers dmg by 150 pts for the slected dmg type. But get this:EACH PROJECTILE THAT HITS IT IS LOWERED BY 150 PTS so someone using railgun or rf blaster would have a harder time than someone using bubbles

Increase Resistance to the dammage type selected by 150pts, not reduce dammage by 150pts

But it also add a -30 malus to all shield Resistance.

Increase Resistance to the dammage type selected by 150pts, not reduce dammage by 150pts

But it also add a -30 malus to all shield Resistance.

oops worded ir wrong thx ill change it

 

So rakza u find the new beam better that positron…? Wouldn’t it be better putting a positron on already having a good range?

 

I always prefered the Beam Cannon, as I asked a lot to have a buff on this weapon to make it interresting.

I also regret my old Heavy Plasma and Heavy Railgun Cannon for the guard.

Rakza, remember that the phase shield is a big part of my builds. Notice that the other two defenses are already in the 100+ range. 

When an enemy is not hitting the weak point, you can raise one of those two to buff your defenses to 250+ and, in some cases, to 300.

Thus, the probability of your dying is lowered even further.