Regarding Guard Frigates

Building a ship is not a rocket science (even though people still fail), ability to understand what your build strengths and stick to the game play dictated by your build and avoiding situations where your weaknesses is.

True. I’m just glad there are very few weaknesses to these builds :smiley:

Guys i’m looking forward to see the big, fat match… Wolfkhan vs rakza… pls do it and record lol,

 

We should arrange a guard fighting club. this would be amazing lol

takamina did something similar for ceptors time ago… having one abot guards and frigs would be great

If its gonna b a battle where the two guard frigates stop right in front of eachother an start shooting then im not intrested lol

He is right simple1v1 prove nothing and boring

Rakza, remember that the phase shield is a big part of my builds. Notice that the other two defenses are already in the 100+ range. 

When an enemy is not hitting the weak point, you can raise one of those two to buff your defenses to 250+ and, in some cases, to 300.

Thus, the probability of your dying is lowered even further.

The Guard is not a DSR SAVING SHIP.

By doing This You are making the GUARD a DSR SAVING SHIP ! That is not its job !

The last time it happened, 9 months ago, the game was full of Guards like yours ! Refusing to play the Guard’s Gameplay, Overexploiting the Phase Shield as you are doing with your fitting.

It directly leaded to the Massiv Frigball with Jericho Guard and later Federation Guard.

What Happened in reaction : Nerfs, and they were justified.

 

Then the Weapons, Missiles and Guards Modules reworks appeards, Then re-Nerf on some guards Modules and Frigates weapons.

 

Look what is our legs to the new players who want to try the guard !

Look how the new Guards players are punished for what we done ! 

Go try a Full Mk1-Mk2 Guard Right now in T1-T2-T3 ! And tell me how good they are compared to a Full Mk1-Mk2 Fighters/Ceptors !

 

All of this is due to the Fear of the Guard’s Frigball Come Back !

 

We are talking about our full purple fitting ! We can have 10 millions fittings that works with our MK4 modules.

 

You have choosen to play looking for the Shield Resistance Hard Cap and a Massive Self Regen. Good for you. By doing this, you are limiting the Guard Gameplay to 1 Thing cause all your guards are fitted with the same mentality.

 

I have choosen to play my Guard Regarding how Devs Designed it, Respecting the Gameplay differences between each Faction and not trying to exploit something that have been nerfed too many time.

After 1 year of Nerf, changes and modification I’m still trying to fit my guard regarding their main faction, still trying respecting the Devs design (or whatever they tried to do xD)

 

I’m not a “Skill Rating Addict” anymore and you can feel it in my fitting.

That change the game vision. And I became much more realistic regarding the Guard Balance

 

I’m not playing a Guard to protect my SR or Myself, I’m playing a Guard to protect my teammates whoever they are and whatever they fly.

 

 

 

Guys i’m looking forward to see the big, fat match… Wolfkhan vs rakza…

Not going to happen, What is opposing us it not “Who have the bigger?” but “What is your game Vision”

The Guard is not a DSR SAVING SHIP.

By doing This You are making the GUARD a DSR SAVING SHIP ! That is not its job !

The last time it happened, 9 months ago, the game was full of Guards like yours ! Refusing to play the Guard’s Gameplay, Overexploiting the Phase Shield as you are doing with your fitting.

It directly leaded to the Massiv Frigball with Jericho Guard and later Federation Guard.

What Happened in reaction : Nerfs, and they were justified.

 

Then the Weapons, Missiles and Guards Modules reworks appeards, Then re-Nerf on some guards Modules and Frigates weapons.

 

Look what is our legs to the new players who want to try the guard !

Look how the new Guards players are punished for what we done ! 

Go try a Full Mk1-Mk2 Guard Right now in T1-T2-T3 ! And tell me how good they are compared to a Full Mk1-Mk2 Fighters/Ceptors !

 

All of this is due to the Fear of the Guard’s Frigball Come Back !

 

We are talking about our full purple fitting ! We can have 10 millions fittings that works with our MK4 modules.

 

You have choosen to play looking for the Shield Resistance Hard Cap and a Massive Self Regen. Good for you. By doing this, you are limiting the Guard Gameplay to 1 Thing cause all your guards are fitted with the same mentality.

 

I have choosen to play my Guard Regarding how Devs Designed it, Respecting the Gameplay differences between each Faction and not trying to exploit something that have been nerfed too many time.

After 1 year of Nerf, changes and modification I’m still trying to fit my guard regarding their main faction, still trying respecting the Devs design (or whatever they tried to do xD)

 

I’m not a “Skill Rating Addict” anymore and you can feel it in my fitting.

That change the game vision. And I became much more realistic regarding the Guard Balance

 

I’m not playing a Guard to protect my SR or Myself, I’m playing a Guard to protect my teammates whoever they are and whatever they fly.

 

Not going to happen, What is opposing us it not “Who have the bigger?” but “What is your game Vision”

now rakza, while i accept your view on guard FLYING philosophy, i think you are mistaken on the fits. i would take those same self regen builds that wolf was using, and use then to draw fire and push forward, acting as a shield for the team, while still doing respecatble amounts of damage to the enemy. the guard’s role is to protect the team from the enemy.

From my perspective as a typically non-frigate pilot: The longer it takes to kill a guard, the longer the guard’s team has time to shoot me while I try to take it down. I’ll leave the guards for after I killed the team where I can but if they frig ball I cannot because of pulsar and all the debuffs they put out.

So I’m not sure if Razka is serious but from my perspective only fleet guards are problematic to fight. Combat guards can be a challenge but no more than had they been a gunship.

Gave my trex mkII another try and i can confirm that my Aura is a better guard than t rex… much better…I’m sure that this should be fixed. Inquisitor loks quite good to me coz it tanks a lot but that trex…not sure waht it’is supposed to do…

Tha way you talk aboout guards Rakza makes u look like a kamikaze… But to be honest that’s exactely the way guards look to be atm…

 

 

So I’m not sure if Razka is serious but from my perspective only fleet guards are problematic to fight. Combat guards can be a challenge but no more than had they been a gunship. 

Don’t misunderstand me, I don’t want to see guards everywhere as it has been some time ago.

The problem with the guards is that its power is proportionnal to the amount of guards in a game.

 

 

 

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Find the problems in this (you have 4 hours, this exam will count for your Guard’s Diploma) 

 

 

 

Tha way you talk aboout guards Rakza makes u look like a kamikaze…

Probably, and that’s why the people who already flyed in squad with me said they never saw somebody flying a guard like me. (For the better or for the worst xD)

He is right simple1v1 prove nothing and boring

 

fite me 1v1 irl and say that to ma face

Don’t misunderstand me, I don’t want to see guards everywhere as it has been some time ago.

The problem with the guards is that its power is proportionnal to the amount of guards in a game.

Find the problems in this (you have 4 hours, this exam will count for your Guard’s Diploma)

Probably, and that’s why the people who already flyed in squad with me said they never saw somebody flying a guard like me. (For the better or for the worst xD)

i can only see two

1: slow speed

But im not sure about the second one since it says:does reletavely small amount of dmg but… Doesnt an engie do the same amount? (Without drones)

Noobtrain’s score: 0/100 :slight_smile:

This made me start playing guards again… But i suck i have no idea what to do. Stay in 1 spot and “guard” <—(lol get it?) or should i move and fight other people. I use coil mortar on my crusuader and it seems ok but i die about 2-3 times per battle is that normal?

fite me 1v1 irl and say that to ma face

I don’t find it necessary to talk or entertain some one who I am punching in the face, so it is either we talk or we fight :slight_smile:

Talk talk talk talk talk talk talk

I don’t find it necessary to talk or entertain some one who I am punching in the face, so it is either we talk or we fight :slight_smile:

 

Instead of intimidating GMs, you should have joined us. If you replace me we would have won the whole tourney.

Instead of intimidating GMs, you should have joined us. If you replace me we would have won the whole tourney.

Hey it is all i can do, shake firsts after the war is over, that is what old geezers do :slight_smile:

How did the tourney go btw?

nasa got 3rd

How did the tourney go btw?

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In group A, DNO and NOVA decided not to come (some childish politics, long story)

In group A, DNO and NOVA decided not to come (some childish politics, long story)

 

Well disconnecting in a tournament would be too shameful, even for DNO