No pending module research should give free loyalty points!

Suggestions Levelling and Economy
#1

We are very limited, with only 2 contracts per day.

 

Example:

Empire - Legion, Wardens, each have 87750 loyalty vouchers with Premium License.

I used to get more with the old loyalty system, than this.

That’s why I am suggesting the following.

If you got no pending progress on any module research, you should be able to get free loyalty to both sides of the same faction.

Rank 13-15 contract branch: 1000 free loyalty per each won match, with Premium License, it’s 1500 free loyalty.

It applies to both Legion and Wardens, if currently docked in Empire hangar.

#2

Yes, and how about “unlocking” all the lower ranking loyalty contracts for everyone again?

To keep the balance, all contracts could run on the same cooldown timer, but the player could choose freely which contracts he wants to fullfill.

#3

No. If it becomes free vouchers, then there’s no use to researchs. 

Numbers are a bit lower, but you also need far less vouchers. A single daily + a few wins upgrade directly to mk3. 

 

 

The only problem is the minimum rank required

#4

Well there’s already no point to “research” so I don’t see what you mean.

#5

2 hours ago, Swifter43021 said:

No. If it becomes free vouchers, then there’s no use to researchs. 

Numbers are a bit lower, but you also need far less vouchers. A single daily + a few wins upgrade directly to mk3. 

 

 

The only problem is the minimum rank required

False.

Free loyalty will be added in your total loyalty amount only, if do not have any pending research and will be distributed evenly.

#6

16 minutes ago, Koromac said:

False.

Free loyalty will be added in your total loyalty amount only, if do not have any pending research and will be distributed evenly.

Doesn’t change the fact that it’ll decrease even more the use of research. 

#7

8 minutes ago, Swifter43021 said:

Doesn’t change the fact that it’ll decrease even more the use of research. 

It will not decrease a thing. It’s actually even more useful, if you don’t use any Research function, but you still get benefits from it…

#8

1 minute ago, Koromac said:

It will not decrease a thing. It’s actually even more useful, if you don’t use any Research function, but you still get benefits from it…

You don’t understand.

Research is already useless because it only gives 1k2 vouchers per battle. 

And now you want to be able to not use the research function and get 1k free vouchers ?

 

Then what’s the point of research ?

So no. 

#9

13 minutes ago, Koromac said:

It will not decrease a thing. It’s actually even more useful, if you don’t use any Research function, but you still get benefits from it…

Nobody likes theresearch feature anyways. This would give people a way around it.

#10

49 minutes ago, TheDarkRedFox said:

Nobody likes theresearch feature anyways. This would give people a way around it.

That’s not a proper reason.

If you don’t like it, don’t use it. I leveled many items like this. No problem for me.

#11

7 minutes ago, Swifter43021 said:

That’s not a proper reason.

If you don’t like it, don’t use it. I leveled many items like this. No problem for me.

You still do not get it, why I actually proposed this suggestion.

It’s meant for people, who do not have any pending research active, so that they can at least still get some benefit, if their vouchers aren’t maxed yet.

#12

No, I got it. And this is exactly why I tell you that it’s a bad idea.

 

Research is here to win more vouchers if you focus on one item. Those 1k2 vouchers you get for researches is the only difference between free vouchers and focus-one-item vouchers.

So okey, players who don’t use it get some benefits. But what you’re asking totally kill the only advantage of using researches.

So : no.

 

 

Or then make that synergy gain is fully converted to free synergy instead of only 5-20%. So even players who don’t want to play a ship to level it up can still get some benefits right ?

Especially when 95% of the vouchers rewards currently in game are already “free vouchers”. 

So if you want free vouchers, then do some league, A.Gage, dailies, or go Open Space.

#13

10 hours ago, Swifter43021 said:

So if you want free vouchers, then do some league, A.Gage, dailies, or go Open Space.

I got this suggestion endorsed by the Russians. You’re overreacting. It will not diminish anything at all.

I would still get more, if I would have an item in my Research slot. Right now, I get 0.

Problem is that I don’t, because I do not need any more research, so this existing feature for me is not useful at all.

As for the contracts, I can’t complete them, because I can only see 2 rank 13 contracts visible for each faction.

#14

The new ‘progression’ system is a huge fail for me.
I have 0 progression since its introduction.

  1. I can’t use the research module ‘feature’.
  2. I can’t gain any loyalty with my r12-.

So + for this.

#15

1 hour ago, Koromac said:

I got this suggestion endorsed by the Russians. You’re overreacting. It will not diminish anything at all.

I would still get more, if I would have an item in my Research slot. Right now, I get 0.

Problem is that I don’t, because I do not need any more research, so this existing feature for me is not useful at all.

As for the contracts, I can’t complete them, because I can only see 2 rank 13 contracts visible for each faction.

There are only 2 rank 13 contracts per faction. The required rank increase when you progress in the ship tree. 

So no problem. 

 

 

And it does decrease something :

Balance

Research give 1k2 vouchers per battle, while no Research give 0. Which mean a difference of 1k2 per battle (maths are hard). 

You’re asking that no research give 1k free vouchers.

So the bonus from research decreased from 1200 to 200 per battle AND no research give free vouchers, making it a bit more useful. 

Therefore by buffing “No research”, you nerf the research bonus. 

 

So once again, no.

 

The new system isn’t bad on its own way. 

I leveled many, many items with  this the update. It’s much easier then before, and you know what you need to do to get vouchers.