introduce T4 "Garm" engineer as a premium ship

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#1

I think that the most unused ship in tier 4 is the “Garm” ship.

Garm is Empire engineer and most people don’t use it, since it’s a standard ship with no additional benefits, unlike some other premium ships.

However, we can improve it’s role and encourage more people to use it.

 

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Garm should be given a premium ship status effective immediately, to promote the engineering role and especially no repair, resupply and free synergy bonus.

Of course, leveling the ship would not be required, since the level should be capped at rank 10 for synergy ranks, like for all premium ships.

Garm premium ship status for the crews/implants should be rank 12.

Garm ship should be given to everyone, who participated in closed beta testing, as a free premium.

For those, who have just started to play the game after official release, it should be unlockable with in game Galactic Standards “GS” currency, which match T4 premium ship cost.

 

Developers, please do this and you will see, that you will not regret it.

By doing so, you will prove, that you do not ignore community suggestions on the English forum.

 

 

Thank you.

 

 

 

Sincerely, [ESB] Koromac, [ESB] LudwigHR

#2

What about the Magnetar, Prometheus, Phobos, Diamond Dwarf, Wolf MK2, Black Bomber, Kite-M, Anaconda Mk2, Silent Fox, Alligator Mk2 etc etc etc etc etc?

#3

What about the Magnetar, Prometheus, Phobos, Diamond Dwarf, Wolf MK2, Black Bomber, Kite-M, Anaconda Mk2, Silent Fox, Alligator Mk2 etc etc etc etc etc?

 

No, the other roles are fine.

This game is lacking engineers, especially premium engineers in T4.

Game is mostly lost, because of the lack of an engineer.

Matchmaking often gives enemy team 2 engineers, while the other have none of them.

Really, I should know, I played T4/T5 for a while now.

People refuse to use it, since they have better alternatives.

#4

The Garm is good for… huh… Yeah, no. None of this.

 

What about the Magnetar, Prometheus, Phobos, Diamond Dwarf, Wolf MK2, Black Bomber, Kite-M, Anaconda Mk2, Silent Fox, Alligator Mk2 etc etc etc etc etc?

What about them? I had an awesomely fun time leveling my Tier starters, all of them. Did not skip a single one of them, not the Alli2, not the Garm. Had fun playing the lot. They just require VERY specific playstyles for them to be effective. Well, used to. With the current mechanics, they’re probably ALL terrible.

#5

The Garm is good for… huh… Yeah, no. None of this.

What about them? I had an awesomely fun time leveling my Tier starters, all of them. Did not skip a single one of them, not the Alli2, not the Garm. Had fun playing the lot. They just require VERY specific playstyles for them to be effective. Well, used to. With the current mechanics, they’re probably ALL terrible.

No, they are not.

#6

No, they are not.

So they’re still fun and easy to play with?..

#7

No, the other roles are fine.

This game is lacking engineers, especially premium engineers in T4.

Game is mostly lost, because of the lack of an engineer.

Matchmaking often gives enemy team 2 engineers, while the other have none of them.

Really, I should know, I played T4/T5 for a while now.

People refuse to use it, since they have better alternatives.

 

  1. No, they are not fine, but since you don’t play anything but engineers, you made yet another suggestion for yourself.

  2. No, the game does not lack on Engineers, you have not only the Garm, but also the Minotaur, Grizzly and Grizzly-M and Polus. Each ship can be played differently without problems.

  3. That’s not the game’s problem, it’s players not wanting to play them. Making the Garm premium would solve nothing because Minotaur is still a monster.

  4. That’s players not choosing to play the Engineer role. Matchmaking is far from perfect, but you can’t blame it for the lack of Engineers in one team.

  5. That doesn’t make you right.

  6. People also refuse to use the ships I listed you above, but since you don’t play anything but Engineers you don’t care. 

 

I have nothing against you but this suggestion just makes no sense. Garm is fine where it is, it’s inferior than the R11 and 12 ships like any other R10 ship. 

 

 

The Garm is good for… huh… Yeah, no. None of this.

 

The Garm has 3 CPU slots. Use your imagination ffs. I leveled it in PvP from first to last level and it was as easy as any other Engineer. You don’t need a master to play an Engineer, as long as you have a proper team.

#8

No, the other roles are fine.

This game is lacking engineers, especially premium engineers in T4.

Game is mostly lost, because of the lack of an engineer.

Matchmaking often gives enemy team 2 engineers, while the other have none of them.

Really, I should know, I played T4/T5 for a while now.

People refuse to use it, since they have better alternatives.

 

The game isn’t “lacking” engineers per see. I see plenty of them around in PVP and PVE. The problem is most of them aren’t fit *AS* engineers, but as some sort of assault frigate (ie self buffs/repairs only). Giving a ship away as a Premium ship won’t make running engineers more popular, too many are just solo players who happen to be in a team…

#9

The game isn’t “lacking” engineers per see. I see plenty of them around in PVP and PVE. The problem is most of them aren’t fit *AS* engineers, but as some sort of assault frigate (ie self buffs/repairs only). Giving a ship away as a Premium ship won’t make running engineers more popular, too many are just solo players who happen to be in a team…

i never understood that concept. IMHO an engineer is just as strong a front line combatant with team heals as it is with self heals. Therefore, peopl really should fit them as healers.

#10

Koromac want to turn Garm into Styx by making it premium with +% heals bonus.

 

No.

 

Garm is fine as it, all R10 are lacking in something.

#11

The Garm has 3 CPU slots. Use your imagination ffs. I leveled it in PvP from first to last level and it was as easy as any other Engineer. You don’t need a master to play an Engineer, as long as you have a proper team.

I did turn it into a heavy Gunship, of sorts, while leveling. It was more annoying than fun, though…

#12

I did turn it into a heavy Gunship, of sorts, while leveling. It was more annoying than fun, though…

Positrons with range, targeting time and critical. Great for 2nd line healing.

#13

Positrons with range, targeting time and critical. Great for 2nd line healing.

I used CM, though. It was an awesome anti-Ceptor gun back in the day.

#14

I did like Eviscerador but without targeting time. I use Empire R2 so I put 2 Infrareds and an Horizon and it was an easy Engineer to level up.

#15

I have noticed that after T3 engineers receive no support in PVP.

 

It is an easy target alone.

 

R10+ engineers are good ships. Especially the federation line, I just can’t get over the extra damage.

 

It may seem weak if you are alone, which happens a lot in T4/T5. Even in the attrition kill count games people just fly off into oblivion. That said, maybe the new skill rating has gotten the good players out of T3. Haven’t been able to really play for 3 weeks.

 

I always noticed in T3 more people were attack retreating. Rather than attack 3 ships till I die.

#16

used it as positron engineer, but quickly moved on to t5 anyway.

 

worked great for me - but since t4 is the most deserted tier usually, i find it really not important to add yet another golden ship there.

 

t3 is still running, but yes, a lot of pilots moved to t5 fights, to keep the tier rushers some company. the games are still more frequent and bigger in t3, and the main tier for 4squads, except organized squadding and SQ. with the meta of the styx and the valor, t3 is still kicking, but i noticed the eclipse self healing nerf has hurt the phoenix players most. i think the same applies to t4, minotaur and grizzlies would simply cover most of the usecases for engies, a secondary golden empire healer would simply not be the same as in t3.

#17

the allocation and usage of ships are under supervision

 

each role/weapon/module is being checked how often it is in use, average efficiency and KD

 

Based on this it seems fine as the situation is stable