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Wednesday, Nov 18 at 23:00 - 79 players ingame.
Monthly averages have fallen 27.3% since September 2015.
Good god this is pathetic.
Around summer 2014 population dropped to 720, now it dropped to 637. Its seems to be regular but it getting worse and worse. Lets hope that new patch and adv will help to get back above 1k.
Wednesday, Nov 18 at 23:00 - 79 players ingame.
Monthly averages have fallen 27.3% since September 2015.
Good god this is pathetic.
as i looked through the stats on the other games, i noticed that around 17.November a lot of them had unusal low population. Steam issues?
Not to invalidate the overall point of the OP. Those stats are rather nastey.
To be fair, players who play via Steam are not the majority by any means, but this similar trend would definitely show if you looked at the entire player base. Even if not, it shows that the non-RU population (the population that uses steam most) is dwindling.
in general the population on pc which does not play games via steam daily however is again in the minority; steam has impressive figures at that (see wikipedia), and is regarded almost as a monopoly by some (internet is full of articles)
most online pc players play steam games primarily. so one who uses one of the competitors, like arc, already is in a subgroup, targeted by those. so yeah, maybe star conflict has a large non-steam playerbase as many mmos/f2ps have, but in the end, the steam stats are the most important ones, for visibility.
it’s not a bad sign, since it means, it always seems to create hardcore fans. i dont think all the 125 mio steam users or something have tried SC yet.
So what if I told you that there are far more players playing the game via the SC Launcher instead of steam?
The question is rather, what does it tell you yourself, if you know, that the majority of pc players are steam users, while the majority of this game has installed its own launcher, so possibly came by website, peer group or local advertisement, etc., (having a launcher used is generally impressive (no argument there))
Which is basicly what I meant. It means, you have done something right in the past.
If the conclusion is, steam growth however does not matter, or would be “overrated”, you are just fooling yourself about the present.
I still think, things change with patience anyway, and every crisis is an opportunity, so I dont see a large issue here. Competitors lost a lot more total players over last few weeks, new titles have arrived; oceans have waves. at least the motion of waves sometimes sweeps away bad things too.
So what if I told you that there are far more players playing the game via the SC Launcher instead of steam?
I even said that myself. It still doesn’t change the fact that the Steam stats, despite showing only a smaller portion of the total player base, still show an accurate trend in this game’s player base. It shows a steady decline in the player base. If you notice the first month that this game was released on Steam, you will see that that was the highest player base this game has ever seen. You know why? Because the release was featured on the front page of steam. That is the only way to dramatically increase your player base. The issue back then was player retention. Since the game was in early beta, not many players would want to stick around, as, in general, players hate change, and since the game was in beta, changes were extremely common, so many players left because of that.
But now, the game is out of beta, and player retention will be easier, as there is less change. The stats show that. The decline has been more gradual since the full release than it was in the early beta stages of the game. Now the effort needs to be put in to increase the player base, which can only be done with advertisement.
Season 3 is a huge opportunity for advertisement. Many players will be looking at Steam for holiday sales, and if SC is featured, I can guarantee there will be an influx of new players.
If the conclusion is, steam growth however does not matter, or would be “overrated”, you are just fooling yourself about the present.
This is accurate. There is a tremendous player base of people who use Steam for PC gaming. Saying Steam growth doesn’t matter is essentially turning your backs on one of the biggest sources of players there is for PC gaming.
Don’t squander this huge opportunity you have coming up with Season 3
I wish you good luck with it. as you know i know enuff people … above error , below error … and one things clear. today we checked the total amount of online players with an admin tool. Minus the amount of steam users. comes down to the sub group programs like ark and what so ever. and the normal Launcher users. to not bring SC to a shame … im holding the numbers to my self. you say and state what ever you like…
BTW , PS :::: If there where so many players like everyone stated… how come the games in this bad condition? You cant say that SC is a TOP game with a player base like any other good game? because lets say that you still got 10 000 people online… all at once… then i need to say with all the devolpment and working on this game , the switching and re switching… you know that over there alone tells me enuff… Call me again, when you hit a player base of 250 000 players online all at once … then i wud be like WOOOOOOOOOOOOOW … now SC is Phew Hew.
It actually had a small peak in septembre, after the new content was released, but it dropped soon afterwards again
It actually had a small peak in septembre, after the new content was released, but it dropped soon afterwards again
Pretty sure that was old players returning to the game to see if the new content was good.
Pretty sure that was old players returning to the game to see if the new content was good.
Maybe
Well regardless of what those small spikes were, it is very clear the player base for this game is dwindling.
Even if the non-steam population of this game doesn’t follow the same trend as the steam population, that just goes to show that the steam population (which is mostly non-RU players) is declining.
SEASON 3 is a perfect opportunity to really promote this game.
If you won’t do it on the same scale, like War Thunder, which is heavily advertised, you will lose all remaining respect of all (essential) player base.
Gaijin is responsible for this. If they won’t do it, terminate a contract with them and get another publisher!
So, get your **** together and ADVERTISE!
Contact some famous YouTube channels. You know their names and who they are. We already discussed this.
Those, who already reviewed Star Conflict in Open Beta, should update their review!
Season 3 must be the most ambitious, if you want to correct your situation.
If you won’t, there are just a few other options to consider. No offense intended.
Corruption
Greed
Vanity
Stupidity
Fear
I wish you good luck with it. as you know i know enuff people …
If the conclusion is, steam growth however does not matter, or would be “overrated”, you are just fooling yourself about the present.
This really can’t be stated enough.
If the claim is always “Steam is a small portion of the playerbase” , then you are targeting the wrong playerbase. If you accidentally got .1% of steam users to try it
and retained even 10% of those we would have a larger playerbase than right now.
If there is anything I’ve learned in my time gaming, games that have advertisement campaigns will always do better than those that don’t.
You already missed huge opportunities to advertise at the full release and at the launch of season 2, don’t make this the third time you’ve missed a huge opportunity to advertise your game and bring in more players.
I cannot emphasize this enough, you CANNOT ignore Steam stats and the Steam population. Steam currently has 125 million users. Why are you ignoring that large of a playerbase? Let’s take the average daily player count in SC on Steam, and I’ll be generous and say 700 online at one time. Typically, there are around 10 million users online on Steam during the day. That is 0.007% of the total Steam population playing SC at any given point of time. Now, let’s take the total Steam user count and the total SC Steam user count. There are about 780k players who have ever played SC, and there have been over 125 million Steam accounts, that is 0.624% of the Steam player base who has just tried the game. If you take the 22k players on Steam who have played it in the last 2 weeks, you have 0.0176% of the Steam playerbase actively playing Star Conflict.
Sure, not everyone in Steam will like Star Conflict, but you cannot say Steam doesn’t matter. With 125 million users on Steam, of which, over 99% haven’t even tried Star Conflict, you have a large untapped playerbase you can draw on for new players. War Thunder has tapped into this player base more, and it is still a fairly small game in comparison to many. 3.44% of Steam users have tried War Thunder. This game easily has the potential to reach that player base, if not fairly close, but yet you squander every opportunity to try to ascend to that point…
All I’m gonna follow up with is that unless I see some hard numbers from the various other launchers like Arc, etc along with their statistical analyses and graphical trends over time like SteamCharts, I’m not believing how “well off” our playerbase is. I don’t believe that for a second.
Can’t help thinking that advertising now (and thus inviting new players to the game as it is now) would be shooting oneself in the foot. We’ve lost 10% of our population just in the last month (or, ekhem, since the 1.23 patch went live), and that’s despite synergy events almost every single weekend.
If experienced pilots who are familiar with how things are run here can’t stand it anymore, why would newbies fall in love at first sight with SC? And what if an ‘influencial reviewer’ sees the game in its current state, with its current player base, bugs, lags and broken system and judges it for what it currently stands for? I’m quite sure a review like this would ultimately be more harmful than helpful to the potential future playerbase.
Please, devs, fix the game first, then worry about advertising. Check your stats to see when people enjoyed your game the most (so the breaking points right before subsequent declines in player activity) and give some thought to reverting the game to previous versions.