Now imagine, you are in a match, you have 1800 SR, and the second one has only 989, and the third 988. You may imagine what will happen: Captain charge in, dies, and there goes minutes of your life cause of a nawb.
So what, if I’m the captain (because I didn’t alt-tab back in time to see I had to dc) I’ll go suicidal after 5 minutes max anyway if my team isn’t pushing, or I’ll just self-destruct right away. CR is a boring mode when the teams camp because then it’s just team deathmatch for 12 minutes. Or in other words, picking high DSR players doesn’t protect you from captains who don’t want to be captain.
So what, if I’m the captain (because I didn’t alt-tab back in time to see I had to dc) I’ll go suicidal after 5 minutes max anyway if my team isn’t pushing, or I’ll just self-destruct right away. CR is a boring mode when the teams camp because then it’s just team deathmatch for 12 minutes. Or in other words, picking high DSR players doesn’t protect you from captains who don’t want to be captain.
True!
But still, if a cap go suicidal after 5 minutes, it will mean that it might take a hit to its SR (and some people, as frustrating as it can sound, still care about it). And if suicide from start, can get reported. So, i understand players dont wanting to be the cap, i think that mode needs to be rethinked and remodeled, because it has only 2 outcomes. Either you have a LOT of fun, or it is a complete abysmall boring game.
I welcome any hits to my rating because going suicidal in t1 to drop it is a chore (there’s a cap on how much you can lose per battle). Although I started synergizing some T4 ships a bit with the bonus and that’s even better than T1 to drop the rating. Never seen so many <1000 players as in T4, it’s brilliant (and the teams are hilariously imbalanced, a total scrub tier).
As to wanting to be cap or not also depends on the ships you got lined up. I typically go with a single ship or two so I can leave boring battles at will and grab another ship or two for the next battle. If it’s that Mk.1 fit 1/10 engineer there’s not really a point being captain.
I welcome any hits to my rating because going suicidal in t1 to drop it is a chore (there’s a cap on how much you can lose per battle). Although I started synergizing some T4 ships a bit with the bonus and that’s even better than T1 to drop the rating. Never seen so many <1000 players as in T4, it’s brilliant (and the teams are hilariously imbalanced, a total scrub tier).
As to wanting to be cap or not also depends on the ships you got lined up. I typically go with a single ship or two so I can leave boring battles at will and grab another ship or two for the next battle. If it’s that Mk.1 fit 1/10 engineer there’s not really a point being captain.
So that’s why you fit only one ship… I always found it a little odd because of capture the beacons.
Poll updated to include JP’s suggestion. (Please revote accordingly; options have been changed for the second part of the poll.)
I personally vote for the captian being chose as the highest SR BUT has the option to Opt out to the next person if he or she wishes to do so.
E.G.
1st person is found with highest SR, but declines.
2nd person is now picked just under the first person, and has the same option.
and so on and so forth.
Discuss.
Just like what Snib said: it’s already happening but it gives lesser and lesser time for the next person to decide if he wants to be capt. So (I’m being rude to make a point) we have increasingly incapable people having lesser time to pick the right ship and become capt. In smaller matches, the worst player in the group may easily end up as capt.
But it avoids the situation that Kraimax raised:
I got chosen the captain. Wanna guess which was the second highest SR? 1059…
If the top player gets to decide if he wants to be the capt, it’ll be good if he can check the SR of the next potential capt.
I personally vote for the captian being chose as the highest SR BUT has the option to Opt out to the next person if he or she wishes to do so.
E.G.
1st person is found with highest SR, but declines.
2nd person is now picked just under the first person, and has the same option.
and so on and so forth.
Discuss.
Great idea and solution, there are times when I was chosen as captain but you know, I only play frigates, would rather have someone with ceptors to be cap.
when this started, i unfortunately was over 1400 dsr, so i was suddenly a lot of captain. fortunately, synergizing weaker ships has corrected it.
yes, sometimes you just have no “captain ship”, so some method of another player stepping up to be the captain without really resorting to alt+f4 would be nice, because “Skill Rating” is just a number.
also, it does not really make sense to wait until 10-15-whatever seconds now, does it… it could actually show the captain right away. so whats the time for? hitting alt f4??
also, i do wonder what some 1700 DSR captains sometimes are doing, who clearly play LRF mostly, and where the recon lost its role to kill snipers, but thats another story.
i never bailed, but i did drop, also i had the fortunate fun of becoming captain in a hot zone, also fun.
Well, that drop the captain method is just stupid, it would take too much time, too much care from the players. Would never work. Also, would need development. Picking at random from a pool is simple.
I’m captain in 50% of the cases, depending on my win or loss streaks, so i would say my SR is just hovering around the always-captain border. It sucks. Yeah, it’s actually easy to avoid being hit as a speed oriented interceptor, but damn, teams can be a pain. I don’t want to be captain, because you have to rely on your team even more than usual.
I had this scenario just recently in current patch:
6v6, went through the player SR by mouse overing while waiting the game to start.
One player in my team displayed 1414 SR. I displayed 1404 SR. Both were already displayed as loaded into game. (not loading, not disconnected or in any other way grayed out).
Still I was selected as captain.
Sorry, was so surprised that didn’t remember to take screenshots.
I still think that it was just a fluke, that somehow the other player was counted as “not yet loaded, so won’t select him as captain”. Or something. I think?
I still think that it was just a fluke, that somehow the other player was counted as “not yet loaded, so won’t select him as captain”. Or something. I think?
Maybe his ship was 1/10 and yours was elite or something like that? It does take that into account for match-making, so maybe also for captain’s selection when the ratings are that close. But I’m just guessing, never see that before, might as well indeed just have been a fluke.
Cannot confirm synergy levels. He had only 2 ships to select from, I had 4. Tier of the ships was same (T4), didn’t check ranks (mine were all 12). I did have 1 premium ship, and also rest of my ships were around 8/10 - 9/10 in synergy.
