Yesterday I saw a Rank 8 Destroyer in a Rank 15 match. I mean, what’s the point of having Rank 14 Destroyers when you can just play with a Rank 8 Destroyer with 9 slots in Tier V?
Also, the Loyalty and Ellydium contracts require the use of Rank 15 ship, so by having Rank 14 in PvP or PvE won’t actually help you get most of the tasks done.
This pretty much limits the gameplay and progression instead of allowing to get your task done even with a ship that’s 1-4 Ranks lower than the max Rank is.
… tomorrow is the 6th birthday of SC… I expect something!
1 hour ago, avarshina said:
… tomorrow is the 6th birthday of SC… I expect something!
Wait, it’s not! It’s 24th of July this year!
Despite the fact that I’ve voted yes, I dont see this happening…Not to mention that some regulars and their eternal negative position towards anything that would give a buff to the destroyers, will make this thread their sole purpose with their “no” and “they are fine” or “they are as intended” etc, to burry the idea…
How about a better idea, now that everyone got at least 1 destroyer, remove them completely…
Although I said not to post anything simply because some and their toxic attitude turned the forum into their own playground, and of course have the last say in anything, the suggestion was too good to ignore. But then again, what difference does it make…
I agree, however give ALL R13+ ships a 10th slot, not just destroyers.
37 minutes ago, HBZK100 said:
I agree, however give ALL R13+ ships a 10th slot, not just destroyers.
why?
The whole reason to give 9 slots to r7+ is to equalize the baseline power of ship, not the opposite.
13 hours ago, xKostyan said:
why?
The whole reason to give 9 slots to r7+ is to equalize the baseline power of ship, not the opposite.
I personaly don’t like this ‘‘equalize’’. For me it remove magic to get ‘‘better’’ higher rank ships.
I would remove bonuses for lower rank ships, let people fell the difference between different rank ships.
I remember when I started I was thinking let me get Jaguar, Mjolnir, SawOne and other special ships … now they are just crap with all those ‘‘equalize’’ and new modules that prefer R12 instead of higher rank.
12 minutes ago, SunnySweet said:
I personaly don’t like this ‘‘equalize’’. For me it remove magic to get ‘‘better’’ higher rank ships.
I would remove bonuses for lower rank ships, let people fell the difference between different rank ships.
I remember when I started I was thinking let me get Jaguar, Mjolnir, SawOne and other special ships … now they are just crap with all those ‘‘equalize’’ and new modules that prefer R12 instead of higher rank.
Yeah, and every single match was made up of exactly the same ships every game, not just same roles, same ships. Now games at least different on ships used too and lower ranked and higher ranked bring their own thing into battle.
5 hours ago, SunnySweet said:
I personaly don’t like this ‘‘equalize’’. For me it remove magic to get ‘‘better’’ higher rank ships.
I would remove bonuses for lower rank ships, let people fell the difference between different rank ships.
I remember when I started I was thinking let me get Jaguar, Mjolnir, SawOne and other special ships … now they are just crap with all those ‘‘equalize’’ and new modules that prefer R12 instead of higher rank.
I agree. Some ships of lower ranks are now even stronger and more effective than their higher counterparts, which is totally ridiculous. Orelus is now more devastating than Spark, etc.
5 hours ago, xKostyan said:
Yeah, and every single match was made up of exactly the same ships every game, not just same roles, same ships. Now games at least different on ships used too and lower ranked and higher ranked bring their own thing into battle.
Hidden passive bonuses should not exist. I want to have a feel of the ship as it is, not with some extra buffs…
2 hours ago, Koromac said:
Hidden passive bonuses should not exist. I want to have a feel of the ship as it is, not with some extra buffs…
And I want to have more valid options that I can bring into battle, and I want more diverse battles.
On 2/1/2018 at 6:00 PM, HBZK100 said:
I agree, however give ALL R13+ ships a 10th slot, not just destroyers.
I think the whole idea was to distinguish the R 14 Destroyers from all ships, giving to any other ship class same amount of slots wouldn’t actually do that. I won’t get in depth, but most ships get regen.coating, which means hull rep and option at the active module slots rep. and/or fortify hull along with the same function for shields. The destroyers have only one way to repair hulls, the drones and they are totally underpowered/slow to repair. Nothing for shields, just the regen. they get. Now that we’ve made some already OP ships even more OP, I would say its time to give the destroyers a fair buff and to start with, increase their slots. Another option of course would be remove them, along with some other classes and let Cov Ops/ECMs/Ellydium ships fight to the death…
On 2.2.2018 at 3:07 PM, xKostyan said:
And I want to have more valid options that I can bring into battle, and I want more diverse battles.
Heh that is just lame excuse that you put here. You have from R13-15 ships all possible options that you can use,
so you would like to use some R12 or R10 ship np np, (oh yes so your R10 is bad now against R15 lets get them big bonus that you can exploit it all way) but please no bonus for those ships.
Perfect example how broken is this way is Tai’kin, because R12 with bonuses is better then same ship that have R15.
So again, why bonus? Just to exploit it ofcourse.
People always take OP ships, so few weeks ago there was zillion command ships, now we have zillion cov ops ships,
or gunships with auto aim.
But tell me again please, just why do we need bonus for lower rank?
25 minutes ago, SunnySweet said:
Heh that is just lame excuse that you put here. You have from R13-15 ships all possible options that you can use,
so you would like to use some R12 or R10 ship np np, (oh yes so your R10 is bad now against R15 lets get them big bonus that you can exploit it all way) but please no bonus for those ships.
Perfect example how broken is this way is Tai’kin, because R12 with bonuses is better then same ship that have R15.
So again, why bonus? Just to exploit it ofcourse.
People always take OP ships, so few weeks ago there was zillion command ships, now we have zillion cov ops ships,
or gunships with auto aim.
But tell me again please, just why do we need bonus for lower rank?
Can you take r15s vs r10s and be effective? Yep
Can you take r10s vs r15s and be effective? Yep
So what are you complaining about? Performance difference between r10/11 vs r15s is minimal, everything comes down to your brains and hands to adopt to a situation. The only exceptions to a general rule are loki/cutter/stingray which has nothing to do with general rank mixing.
40 minutes ago, xKostyan said:
Can you take r15s vs r10s and be effective? Yep
Can you take r10s vs r15s and be effective? Yep
So what are you complaining about? Performance difference between r10/11 vs r15s is minimal, everything comes down to your brains and hands to adopt to a situation. The only exceptions to a general rule are loki/cutter/stingray which has nothing to do with general rank mixing.
I would like to feel that R15 is much better then R10 simple as this.
19 minutes ago, SunnySweet said:
I would like to feel that R15 is much better then R10 simple as this.
I don’t, I want variety
“there is no ultimate ship, just different strength and weakness”
14 hours ago, EndeavSTEEL said:
“there is no ultimate ship, just different strength and weakness”
Manufactured ships should be ultimate, but now they are just crap since we can’t use new modules on them.
14 hours ago, xKostyan said:
I don’t, I want variety
I don’t understand you, you can use every ship at any time. But sure with 55% buff it is much OP and easier.
For me your screen shot with Wolf MKII just prove me wright. OP 55% bonus against R15 that should be way better.
4 hours ago, SunnySweet said:
I don’t understand you, you can use every ship at any time. But sure with 55% buff it is much OP and easier.
For me your screen shot with Wolf MKII just prove me wright. OP 55% bonus against R15 that should be way better.
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I can take Mjolnir/Jaguar/TrexMK2/Spark/Rockwell and do the same, it all comes down to how and when you use it.