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First you go and shout top 10 Corps get rewards then after we spend iridium to boost and then you decide “Ops lets just give the top 3 something”.
Not to forget many players who went to farm some ididium for their corps for this event. Many small players from our corp for example said ok you know what i want to help the corp i can upgrade my modules later they will be sooooooo happy to hear about this.
That’s just one thing which kinda makes me speechless: Top 10, then after investing it’s only the Top 3…
I am one of those players who spent a lot Iridium I actually really could use for better things. I saved a lot of it so I could advance faster when I think the time is right. Gave most of it to the corp. For nothing?!
Next point not mentioned yet is the rewards itself. A skin for the dread? A picture for the pilot profile. To me that is no reward at all!!!
I don’t care at if our dread looks different somehow or I get a little picture. For these rewards now I have to spent more time in your game, expecting me to buy premium licences again to make up for the lost time/iridium???
I was expecting a premium ship for every corpmember (of course one other players are also able to buy, not some exclusive op-ship) or at least GS rewards. (While already having a bad feeling about my hopes).
Already posted my concerns about the way you introduce the dreads (no one really knows what they will be, or do in fact some of the more favoured corps do actually know?!?) and my concerns about having to invest in the race w/out knowing about the rewards.
Now it even became worse.
A long LONG time ago, some of the corps where allowed to increase their iridium storage. No one said why or anything. The thing was - someone, somehow knew why the iridium is needed and in what quantities. Possibility to increase the iridium storage was then removed. And so at this time we have some corps with over 100k storage space, fully prepared to spend their iridium to have a significant advantage in this competition. If the prizes were for top ten - then yes, there is a possibility to other corp to get those prizes, but now I don’t see it. And announcing the “Arms Race” and then defining the prizes in the second week AFTER it started?
It is true.
Some people, which paid with GS currency, got the possibility to increase their storage of Iridium Corporate supply.
That option was later removed from the game. Very similar like some tier 3 equipment then got removed and put on higher tiers, but those who had it already, they have kept it.
Same goes for some Invasion made modules or equipment. I must say, that I wouldn’t mind, if there would still be the option do so, but since there were no options any longer, only people who must have known about this, used this for their own gains.
Hearing that don’t know what to say again. Even op equip on low rank ships out there? :01414:
Simple.
Economic questions and their policy about those.
I know that this isn’t fair. The option to extend Iridium storage should exist even now, to even up the odds.
Now you can’t remove their Iridium, especially if they paid for the storage capacity increase.
ESB is not amongst them, because we had 3000 Iridium cap.
I see the problem: people already payed for sth. … But if you dare to delete these posts or think you get away with this kind of policy you just don’t understand the information age and how communities in a globalized world work.
I really thought for a while that no such thing as active support for russian players was the case, well until on one side the gaijin sponsored tournaments which somehow are completely in russian even when promoted as international, which is if the international community even gets notice of them. The russian tournaments even have enormorous money prices (unlike the international ones), 40000 standards compared to around 4000 from the international ones (which the GMs have to sponsor themselves).
I have no problem if people in poorer countries or the ones hit harder by the financial crisis than others have to pay less or get more rewards. But do not forget: there are people in every country who don’t have much. Even if they happen to live in rich countries doesn’t mean they all belong to the upper class. Many of them are your customers. Don’t underestimate how easily you could alienate them.
I am sad, I am frustrated, I am disappointed. Worst of all: I feel betrayed. And I ask you, managers and developers and kin alike: Why. Why do you do that.
Exactly.
I really try to understand how you communicate. We have to ask question after question because of ninja changes. With more or less sufficient answers. Do you know what you are doing or is it just trial and error? There are broken promises again and again.
I just wrote a long and positive statement on steam about the game: that it’s not pay to win, that devs are listening to the community or at least try to balance everything so that it’s fair. Then I come to the forum and have to find out more and more things like the ones mentioned above.
Can I still recommend this game to my friends? Really don’t know. This is not a threat like “make the game as I want or you get a bad review”. Just the way I really wonder right now. I want this game to work. I want it to be fair. And I demand respect and honesty from you, the devs!
You know there are many titles out there and others to come. I’m really not sure why you do these things? You think we won’t find out? We will pay anyway? Do you think it’s a sinking ship, let’s see how far it will take us, because we are already in the only lifeboat? Let them paddle until it sinks?
This has to be said. I still hope you’ll find a solution, but more things like that might be deadly for a promising game.
In fear of you messing up the dreads…
Bone
Hopefully Portraits become custom-submittable. Hopefully Dreadnought customization becomes available for GS payment later.
Until then we just have to deal with the RU corps that rush extreme [insert resource here] counts for whatever contest they autowin. There are one, maybe two English-speaking corporations that can compete with the RU corps, be that in skill or in resource zerging.
In the meantime I guess I’ll sit here, trying to run a corp that gets crushed by all the top corps out there, whose only retort to these complaints is ‘git gud scrub’ in a game that has a learning curve through the roof if you want to actually improve to a competitive level. It’s as if there’s an entire country of NY Yankees buying up the good players. Why join any other corp?
Maybe I should quit while I’m ahead.
For what it’s worth, at least the devs/publisher are listening. They would do well to hire better localization, though. Considering how much money non-RU players can and have dumped into this game, it seems prudent to offer them a worthwhile return on their investment. I get that Russian culture is more secretive of its inner workings (always has been) but you are on a global market now. Keeping information hidden from your consumers in the gaming industry is economic suicide in the long term.
Everything niri said is sadly true. I wish I could deny niri’s statements and dismiss them as biased and overhyped, but I can’t, because they are true.
I clearly remember the times when the iridium limit for a corp was 3k, but yet, at least 5 corps had well over 50k (some had over 100k), and probably 10 more had over 20k, and almost all of these corps were RU. First off, why were these corps given special treatment and allowed to increase iridium storage? Secondly, no matter how they got the increased iridium storage, why would they have spent artifacts to fill it, unless they knew what it would be used for? In this case, that is EXTREME bias and favor towards those corps, letting them know far ahead of the rest of the community what was in the works. As a side note, wouldn’t that be a violation of the NDA? Considering that releasing information such as this to anyone is a violation?
I understand that it is hard to create and develop a game, but it is no excuse to completely exclude a fairly large portion of the player base from information nor is it an excuse to glorify the elite corps that get preferential treatment, advanced notice of important changes, or unique unlocks that other corps are in the dark or excluded from. Part of running an international game is involving and giving equal treatment to ALL of the players. Even if this game had a 99.999999% RU player base and .000001% other player base, that .000001% should be treated the same.
Many countries have experienced this exclusion in history. A little thing called racism exists, and it normally gets frowned upon and laws are passed to make exclusion based on race illegal. For example, the Civil Rights movement in the 1960’s. In the US., “colored” citizens were denied basic civil rights. Not to different from this game. The majority player base (RU) is getting what they want, while the international player base is being excluded from all kinds of information, unlocks, and ways to advance.
So keep on glorifying your precious elite RU corps, keep giving them information in advance, keep letting them have unfair advantages over the international corps.
You will only keep on losing players from the international community, which results in a loss of profit, and therefore less money to spend improving the game itself.
I’m not quite to the point of quitting this game entirely, as I still enjoy some of the gameplay, but if this elitism and preferential treatment continues (as well as the almost complete ignorance of the international community), I will most likely quit this game and give my money to a game that will treat me fairly.
You cant compare getting a bunch of players getting customisable dreadnaughts to racism in real world. Aditionally the russians are most caucasians like most the americans.
You cant compare getting a bunch of players getting customisable dreadnaughts to racism in real world. Aditionally the russians are most caucasians like most the americans.
Its not about the damn rewards who gives a f*** about them its about that many corps mainly RU corps where accumulating masses of iridium/artifacts long before the dreadnaughts where even there and nothing was done against it.
And since artifacts/iridium is quite a useful resource it seems highly logical that they knew ahead that there comes something like dreadnaughts that will consume incredible masses of this resource because why else would you give away your artifacts that you need for upgrades when you dont even know for what you need them for or how many.
Its not about the damn rewards who gives a f*** about them its about that many corps mainly RU corps where accumulating masses of iridium/artifacts long before the dreadnaughts where even there and nothing was done against it.
And since artifacts/iridium is quite a useful resource it seems highly logical that they knew ahead that there comes something like dreadnaughts that will consume incredible masses of this resource because why else would you give away your artifacts that you need for upgrades when you dont even know for what you need them for or how many.
It had been mentioned a couple of times that iridium will be used for Dreadnoughts.
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It had been mentioned a couple of times that iridium will be used for Dreadnoughts.
But the point is that some corps got iridium capacity increase while some didn’t.
Or CEO was able to increase iridium capacity with real money?
But the point is that some corps got iridium capacity increase while some didn’t.
Or CEO was able to increase iridium capacity with real money?
CEO could increase it with $$ and it was on for month or so
CEO could increase it with $$ and it was on for month or so
Confirmed. It was only available temporary.
Those who knew or suspected, have invested, while the others, who later just realized that, couldn’t do so anymore, because of the withdrawal of such feature - GS Iridium Storage Cap Extension.
First of. Comic Sans critic is one thing but mistyping Pilots is not good. Or you really meant PiLosts cause that is how i feel now. In two weeks this game went from fun back to all its old habbits of messing with people. I am dissapointed that the Promise of a level playing field was ripped by this whatever rushed patch. It also greatly aggrevates me that several Corps on that list get an investigation about game abuse imidistely and as icing on the cake after all that crap we had to take with the update this announcement happens… Fun times. I really don not get it. By upping the difficulty in open world you scare new players… Taking the seco matches away instantly spawns killer squads on all tiers. Who in his right mind is removing endgame content for something weeks if not months away? With the forementioned limitations and not taken actions its again proven that you guys either do not care about what now still passes as your comunity or you simply plan way to shortsighted. Please do not announce stuff you can not keep if you say an update arrives it has to arrive this game is no beta anymore and since last weeknit has fallen beyond that state. Endgame removed or broken. Open World is a zoo of monsters you can barly defeat as a pack and the matchmaking is still beyond repair. And do not give me the we need more people for the matchmaking to work cause this is the wrong way to get them.
Even to me as a relatively new player it was clear that the iridium would be used for sth. important. I think no information leak is needed to make the corps, who were able to, invest in that extra storage.
The problem is the decision was short sighted. Should have been clear that it’s both unfair to corps who were able to upgrade if they couldn’t make use of it and to corps who could not upgrade, if they have to compete with the former ones.
Solution? Let the ones with 100.000 capacity compete amongst each other. And so the others with less capacity.
Really guys, you look a bit short sighted.
All this “career to arms” is just a way the devs are getting rid of all the excess iridium all corporations have.
After 4 weeks of boosting, some corporation members will have a dread skin, and all the rest will be at even terms in iridium stock.
But somehow, you can’t see that…
For the short period of time that CEO’s could increase iridium storage with gold was well before dreadnoughts were even mentioned. It was before most of you even started playing, I don’t see how CEO’s at the time would have known iridium would be linked to something that didn’t exist. Those corps did it to have a place on the leaderboard
Good thought Eviscerador.
Really guys, you look a bit short sighted.
All this “career to arms” is just a way the devs are getting rid of all the excess iridium all corporations have.
After 4 weeks of boosting, some corporation members will have a dread skin, and all the rest will be at even terms in iridium stock.
But somehow, you can’t see that…
Evis nails a point.
I don’t really follow the iridium storage thing. That’s really not so important. I read alot of complaints here I just cannot subsribe to. I really do not care who wins - even if I would (quite doubtful)
But I am also not surprised by the amount of QQ. I just suspect most people do not recognize what makes them really angry. I mean c’mon, it’s just skins and portraits, yes?
For me it’s the how, not the why. As I explained.
I mean in a nutshell, if it would be like this…
* Dreads will have skin customization options in the future! The first three corporations will work together with our team to create the first ones and can use them early on on their corporation dreadnought!
* The two top corporations additionally will get a special new color scheme, all other participants of the race will be able to buy it on event closure for a reduced celebration GS offer as permanent skin, usable on any ship! Later you can still get them with the existing skins!
* The top corporation will test a new feature we have plans for in the future! Custom Portraits! We will moderate an early selection, which all winners will be able to use!
* All participiants / Top 10 will receive additional special prices for partaking in this galactic event! And more to come! (more portraits, customizable DLC ships, new color gradients, corporation stickers, etc. lots of options to choose from)
it reads yummy and tasty, and everyone complaining is just jealous! Because it’s an announcement of features to come, and everybody will get something, even if its for GS! It does not feel like lots of work is only done for some.
I just took the skin as example, because it would work (i guess, moderating custom portraits, and designing dread skins is a lot more work for more corps)
It’s the presentation of prices, which is btw. also not the authors fault, because I found iaxils announcement very clear and good to read;
The prices themselves read very nicely, once you see the it from a future aspect, and are assured, there will be access to stuff like that to anybody in the future. I just want to note, that is imho, very important!
While this might be off topic…
It would be useful to see the dreadnought being built “live”, like the turrets from stage 3 of “Operation Red Haze”…
Also, the pluses of negating the Iridibunkers with huge costs (heck, it even costs Iridium to move the thing, and repair it too!) seems like a plus.
Even if they are small, they add up quickly (like expenses on a credit card) and in the end, without a good spending plan, you’d be devistated in the longrun.
You cant compare getting a bunch of players getting customisable dreadnaughts to racism in real world. Aditionally the russians are most caucasians like most the americans.
It was an analogy, and I wasn’t comparing it to the rewards. I could care less about the rewards for completing the dreads. I was comparing it to the preferential treatment that the elite RU corps seem to get from the devs. Sure, it isn’t similar to racism, but the principle is the same, giving preference to one group while excluding another/others.
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While I agree with a lot of what you said, you do have some flaws. No statements from the devs have been made to support your statements of “early access”
From what they have made it sound like, the rewards are something that will be unique to only the top 3 corps, and no one else will be able to get them, but this could just be because of loss-of-meaning through translation.
I would be very happy if these things would be implemented for everyone later, but I find the likelihood of that to be very low.
When I check back in to the game itself in a month, I hope to be surprised.