And this is what happens when there is no consequence to quitting

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I’ve a suggestion ;   how about bot take over the ship control when player disconnected? , But its not a regular bot , it is same skill based on pilot rating? if the pilot returns  he can take over … 

Yeah, but… :effort:

 

Do you have any idea the amount of time it took to code the current AI?..

 

No. It is not. If it is, please point me to those rules and the exact point where this is stated.

It is against the rules to leave matches on purpose for whatever reason other than “bad connection”. Which can be proven server-side.

 

Adding to this:

[http://forum.star-conflict.com/index.php?/topic/8916-game-server-code-of-conduct/](< base_url >/index.php?/topic/8916-game-server-code-of-conduct/)

 

6.6. Denial to deal damage to the enemy.

6.8. Avoiding combat without leaving the battlefield.

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6.8. Avoiding combat without leaving the battlefield.

 

 

This means staying on the battlefield, but not fighting (" without leaving …"). We are talking here about people leaving the battlefield on purpose (or more generally not even going back there).

 

Also, as stated those are rules for “during the game”. If you disconnect, you have already left the game.

 

If you want to forbid intentional disconnects, it must be worded like that (“intentional disconnects are forbidden”, or something similar), and the option to “leave battle” MUST be removed. The fact that it’s there strongly indicates that it’s allowed…

 

You are just trying to twist words actually meaning something different to fit your purpose.

 

 

There is alot of that on here, add to that the ones who give opinions, but state them in a way as though they are fact, yet they can be proven wrong, and can rarely back up their “fact” with conclusive data.

 

Leave battle is an option in the menu. I will continue to leave detonation in my frigates, as often times, but not always, I find them boring.

Furthermore, this code of conduct is just in some obscure corner of the forum, and thus not visible to the majority of players. It is NOT part of the agreement that players confirm after each patch/update. 

 

Except it is in no way obscure. At the very top of the home page of the forum there is a tab for the In-Game Policies. And it IS part of the agreement we players confirm. Part of the agreement we confirm after every update includes following the designated rules laid out in the code of conduct.

Guys, leaving the battlefield already have punishment. You don’t get any rewards and you have to pay all the expenses. For someone without license, that is a lot of money.

Furthermore, this code of conduct is just in some obscure corner of the forum, and thus not visible to the majority of players. It is NOT part of the agreement that players confirm after each patch/update. 

They don’t care whether or not it’s visible to people, it’s THERE. If it’s there, you’re supposed to know it, word for word. Plus, there’s this thing called “common sense”, not sure if you’ve heard of it… The point is that, leaving the battle, ON PURPOSE, should be an offence, not something to be exploited by everyone plus their moms.

 

I still say ban the lot.

Stop trying to treat the symptom, and treat the problem.

 

If people are disconnecting on purpose, then that means they have been presented with a match for which they perceive no positive outcome. This could mean one of several things, including but not limited to:

  • The scenario they have been given is not fun to play.
  • The matchmaking is so broken they don’t see any way to enjoy the match.
  • The rewards offered for staying are trivial to the point of not being worth their time.
  • They feel they are being abused by their teammates, or have reason to believe they will suffer abuse from their teammates.
  • They feel they are being abused by the opposing team, or have reason to believe they will suffer abuse from the opposing team.

 

Start with those, and start proposing solutions to those problems, and maybe your disconnect issue will go away.

Stop trying to treat the symptom, and treat the problem.

 

If people are disconnecting on purpose, then that means they have been presented with a match for which they perceive no positive outcome. This could mean one of several things, including but not limited to:

  • The scenario they have been given is not fun to play.
  • The matchmaking is so broken they don’t see any way to enjoy the match.
  • The rewards offered for staying are trivial to the point of not being worth their time.
  • They feel they are being abused by their teammates, or have reason to believe they will suffer abuse from their teammates.
  • They feel they are being abused by the opposing team, or have reason to believe they will suffer abuse from the opposing team.

 

Start with those, and start proposing solutions to those problems, and maybe your disconnect issue will go away.

 

Or they’re just too lazy and/or bad to just even try to win a game.

Stop trying to treat the symptom, and treat the problem.

 

If people are disconnecting on purpose, then that means they have been presented with a match for which they perceive no positive outcome. This could mean one of several things, including but not limited to:

  • The scenario they have been given is not fun to play.
  • The matchmaking is so broken they don’t see any way to enjoy the match.
  • The rewards offered for staying are trivial to the point of not being worth their time.
  • They feel they are being abused by their teammates, or have reason to believe they will suffer abuse from their teammates.
  • They feel they are being abused by the opposing team, or have reason to believe they will suffer abuse from the opposing team.

 

Start with those, and start proposing solutions to those problems, and maybe your disconnect issue will go away.

 

 

I agree with these points.

 

 

Or they’re just too lazy and/or bad to just even try to win a game.

 

 

Do you have a point ? Or are you just posting because you can and not because you have anything relevent to add to the discusion ?

 

“Oh, you must not know how to play, that is why you dissconnected!” - How childing and boring…

  • The scenario they have been given is not fun to play.
  • The matchmaking is so broken they don’t see any way to enjoy the match.

These things right here. I play mainly Engie, and 9 times out of 10, I’m only as good as the rest of my team, and if no one can get anything accomplished while under support of my heals, I may as well not bother. It’s no fun being support on a team that has no teamwork to speak of when playing one of the most team-centric classes.

These things right here. I play mainly Engie, and 9 times out of 10, I’m only as good as the rest of my team, and if no one can get anything accomplished while under support of my heals, I may as well not bother. It’s no fun being support on a team that has no teamwork to speak of when playing one of the most team-centric classes.

 

As a support pilot I completely agree with you.  If my team is good I get excellent results, if my team is bad I get close to 0 score. I guess it’s my fault for choosing to play engies and other support ships, but sometimes a match is not worth playing.  When the other four pilots on my team all bring out t4 ships in a 5v5 t5 PVP as happened to me earlier on, then there is no point continuing to play and I might as well leave the match.

 

As for leaving battle, this wouldn’t be such a problem if matches were bigger and therefore each individual pilot counts less to overall team achievement.

 

I don’t think there should be more punishment.

The choice of game mode you queue for is a long waited dream.

You remember all those times you just need 1 beacon  to finish a contract, so you can switch and do others (even back in the good old times) and all you got were non-beacon matches in 7 in a row!

By that time you could’ve pretty much finished all the non-beacon matches in the other sub-faction.

And in the time when you could only pick 3 - Having 6/7 completion just do not let you bail on it.

The matches I got 7 caps can be counted on my fingers and toes.

Do you have a point ? Or are you just posting because you can and not because you have anything relevent to add to the discusion ?

 

“Oh, you must not know how to play, that is why you dissconnected!” - How childing and boring…

 

I’m pointing that blaming the MM and the game is very easy but trying to actually fight for a win must be too hard to even try.

 

I understand that if you agree with Jasan and I disagree with him you disagree with me but there’s no need to add so much bitterness to your post. I was just giving an opinion. 

And now my T5 loadout for now is a full set of Prem ships, so now I don’t even have to pay for repairs. So other than missing out of a paltry 100k for leaving a lost game, what is stopping me from quitting every game I don’t like again??

And now my T5 loadout for now is a full set of Prem ships, so now I don’t even have to pay for repairs. So other than missing out of a paltry 100k for leaving a lost game, what is stopping me from quitting every game I don’t like again??

Gentle Kick from NASA, with “sorry” from Canadian officer

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The fact that you have to wait until the rest is also finished, and then another 4-5 minutes for the next match, which may not even be any better.

And people still wonder why others stop playing.

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Lol… which implies you seriously believe that removing the “Leave Battle” option, i.e. to reduce the customer’s ability to choose in which battles to participate, will IMPROVE player retention?

 

You do realize that this debate sounds like the school bully lamenting that his victims are allowed to run away, and demanding the doors should be locked to force his victims to stay in his reach?

As Jasan keeps pointing out…

 

STOP TREATING THE SYMPTOMS!!

 

People leave matches because they see no point in fighting. The cause of this? Bad Matchmaking. Removing that button will only cause people to Alt-F4. Same thing, really.