want to know why I’m so crabby? Well it’s because I’m frustrated and nobody in game is helpful.
also not sure why this topic wound up where it did.
May I ask why you only brought one ship to PVP? Three ships is a minimum, in case you end up with the Capture the Beacon game mode, like you did in the first battle. Otherwise you are a liability to your team.
I agree that the 2v2 games are annoying though.
For the queues, I usually expect around 2-3 minutes. I requeue after 3 min
.Also t4 and t5 are mixed.
You can ignore the T5 premiums maybe, they’re more complicated for MM. Maulers are T4 for MM.
The rest is BS.
May I ask why you only brought one ship to PVP? Three ships is a minimum, in case you end up with the Capture the Beacon game mode, like you did in the first battle. Otherwise you are a liability to your team.
I agree that the 2v2 games are annoying though.
For the queues, I usually expect around 2-3 minutes. I requeue after 3 min
.Also t4 and t5 are mixed.
I only brought one because that’s the only one I want to play, and because when I add my tier 5’s on the list I get long wait times and 2v2 games. and if three ships was so mandatory I would be restricted from launching or entering that game mode with less ships which is fine for me because I can farm much more in the game modes with respawns.
also, tiers 4 and 5 are mixed? you don’t say. As evidenced in the video I see tier 5’s when in tier 4’s, I even point this out so I think it would be obvious I know this but yet you still insist on pointing it out like a preprogrammed response machine. You would also notice whenever I have tier 5’s on my list i get the aformentioned matchmaker treatment.
I fully expect to hear another nonhelpful thing from you if you respond at all because you are clearly not in a position of knowledge.
I only brought one because that’s the only one I want to play, and because when I add my tier 5’s on the list I get long wait times and 2v2 games. and if three ships was so mandatory I would be restricted from launching or entering that game mode with less ships which is fine for me because I can farm much more in the game modes with respawns.
also, tiers 4 and 5 are mixed? you don’t say. As evidenced in the video I see tier 5’s when in tier 4’s, I even point this out so I think it would be obvious I know this but yet you still insist on pointing it out like a preprogrammed response machine. You would also notice whenever I have tier 5’s on my list i get the aformentioned matchmaker treatment.
I fully expect to hear another nonhelpful thing from you if you respond at all because you are clearly not in a position of knowledge.
I bet you’re a real blast at parties.
Ask why matchmaking is a xxxxx, get told why matchmaking is a xxxxx. Don’t xxxxx about the person who tells you.
I bet you’re a real blast at parties.
Ask why matchmaking is a xxxxx, get told why matchmaking is a xxxxx. Don’t xxxxx about the person who tells you.
oh look another one, and this one is insulting the statue of liberty.
want to know why I’m so crabby? Well it’s because I’m frustrated and nobody in game is helpful.
We know about at much as you do.
I have heard rumors that even though T4 and 5 are mixed that there is an upper bracket and a lower bracket depending on your DSR or Effectiveness or something. So it might be possible that you are straddling that line and bouncing back and forth between the sparsely populated upper bracket and the much more populated lower bracket.
As for why your Tier 5 ship causes a 5 minute wait time, vs the >1 minute wait for your Tier 4… I’ve got a vague theory. For every ship in your lineup, the game has to calculate some number to figure out what bracket to put you in, and what team you should be on. So with more ships, the calculation gets more complex. Now add in ships from 2 different tiers and the matchmaker has a seizure. So that might be why with only 1 ship you had only a few seconds of a wait, while the 2 different tiers caused a massive 5 minute wait.
Personally, I get around a consistent 2-3 minute wait with a full lineup of Tier 4 ships. Haven’t yet unlocked a Tier 5 to try a mixed lineup.
So i found a Commenter on that youtube video: 
So i found a Commenter on that youtube video:
Great. It’s Moon Moon’s sloth alter-ego, Lucas Lucas.
We know about at much as you do.
I have heard rumors that even though T4 and 5 are mixed that there is an upper bracket and a lower bracket depending on your DSR or Effectiveness or something. So it might be possible that you are straddling that line and bouncing back and forth between the sparsely populated upper bracket and the much more populated lower bracket.
As for why your Tier 5 ship causes a 5 minute wait time, vs the >1 minute wait for your Tier 4… I’ve got a vague theory. For every ship in your lineup, the game has to calculate some number to figure out what bracket to put you in, and what team you should be on. So with more ships, the calculation gets more complex. Now add in ships from 2 different tiers and the matchmaker has a seizure. So that might be why with only 1 ship you had only a few seconds of a wait, while the 2 different tiers caused a massive 5 minute wait.
Personally, I get around a consistent 2-3 minute wait with a full lineup of Tier 4 ships. Haven’t yet unlocked a Tier 5 to try a mixed lineup.
When I only have a tier 5 on the list it does the same thing, but this is the most sense I’ve heard from another human being on the subject. Thank you very much.
Now I just have to work to gather more tier 4’s and 5’s I like. I am very fickle over what ships gain my affections and if I’m going to keep getting these low number games I should see about leveling some interceptors as its one of the few instances where they are at maximum effectiveness. Something I like to call the flash effect.
So i found a Commenter on that youtube video:
I made a shrek video a while back when I had the flu and couldn’t sleep for like 4 days and for some reason it attracted attention. Don’t watch if you get seizures.
actually I have a few shrek videos but that’s the popular one, for some reason.
I only brought one because that’s the only one I want to play, and because when I add my tier 5’s on the list I get long wait times and 2v2 games. and if three ships was so mandatory I would be restricted from launching or entering that game mode with less ships which is fine for me because I can farm much more in the game modes with respawns.
also, tiers 4 and 5 are mixed? you don’t say. As evidenced in the video I see tier 5’s when in tier 4’s, I even point this out so I think it would be obvious I know this but yet you still insist on pointing it out like a preprogrammed response machine. You would also notice whenever I have tier 5’s on my list i get the aformentioned matchmaker treatment.
I fully expect to hear another nonhelpful thing from you if you respond at all because you are clearly not in a position of knowledge.
Get shrekt mate
But on a serious note, it is not mandatory to have three ships, I agree, but it is recommended, unless you are sure you will not die. It also offers more flexibility, for example if you are in combat recon and you see your team has no engi, then you can be REALLY helpful and bring one out. It might win the game for you.
With regards to matchmaker, I agree it is XXXXed and needs to be fixed, as I’m sure we all do. T4 and T5 are mixed and there is something to do with DSR like SoldiersFortune mentioned, which makes no sense. I don’t fly T4 anymore for that exact reason, and I feel the pain of those that have to fly T4s and come up against T5s. I can offer no solution except grind in PVE, which is not a solution seeing the difficulty increase in the last patch. So devs, please fix this issue.
We know about at much as you do.
I have heard rumors that even though T4 and 5 are mixed that there is an upper bracket and a lower bracket depending on your DSR or Effectiveness or something. So it might be possible that you are straddling that line and bouncing back and forth between the sparsely populated upper bracket and the much more populated lower bracket.
As for why your Tier 5 ship causes a 5 minute wait time, vs the >1 minute wait for your Tier 4… I’ve got a vague theory. For every ship in your lineup, the game has to calculate some number to figure out what bracket to put you in, and what team you should be on. So with more ships, the calculation gets more complex. Now add in ships from 2 different tiers and the matchmaker has a seizure. So that might be why with only 1 ship you had only a few seconds of a wait, while the 2 different tiers caused a massive 5 minute wait.
Personally, I get around a consistent 2-3 minute wait with a full lineup of Tier 4 ships. Haven’t yet unlocked a Tier 5 to try a mixed lineup.
You also have to consider that the T4 ship was premium. It’s been a while since the devs posted anything on the English forums about how MM works, but DSR and recent w/l ratio are factors. T5 squads supposedly get their own queue to limit kill squads in T5, and yes they were called kill squads by the devs.
Still, it was “R11” vs R15’s in some of those games so it’s still BS.
Get shrekt mate
But on a serious note, it is not mandatory to have three ships, I agree, but it is recommended, unless you are sure you will not die. It also offers more flexibility, for example if you are in combat recon and you see your team has no engi, then you can be REALLY helpful and bring one out. It might win the game for you.
With regards to matchmaker, I agree it is XXXXed and needs to be fixed, as I’m sure we all do. T4 and T5 are mixed and there is something to do with DSR like SoldiersFortune mentioned, which makes no sense. I don’t fly T4 anymore for that exact reason, and I feel the pain of those that have to fly T4s and come up against T5s. I can offer no solution except grind in PVE, which is not a solution seeing the difficulty increase in the last patch. So devs, please fix this issue.
yeh i agree totally.
i just can’t tolerate the high end mm anymore. I want to fly my t5 ships in full games because my preferred playstyle is fire support and when the numbers are low it can lean towards interceptory playstyle. While I can play interceptors quite well as its literally putting the turn keys on wasd and pressing them at random while boosting with adaptive shield, there are very few interceptors I actually like.
Tier 1 - 2 is a huge difference in ships, as for the first time pilots get access to survivability passives that help them survive. Tier 2-3 (same, but with a huge increase in weapon/module capability). Tier 3-4 is more of a practicing arena for experienced and non-experienced pilots, but with T4 much MUCH less active than T3. T4-5 not really that big of a difference between ships so they are joined together. What fun is it to ONLY play people of high skill rating if you have one, or ONLY people with lower skill ratings–no, they need to be joined so that both of these latter game tiers are fun enough to play with enough players and varying skills.
I just don’t get why people are SO concerned with their DSR…sure, the matchmaker should look at it and balance obvious team stacking, but stop trying to segment battles that are usually decided by DSR. For example, I’ve played so many games where there is at LEAST one person with an equal or greater skill rating than mine of 1500. It’s great that the matchmaker tries to balance higher ratings, but it increases the wait times for games by a lot. My friend has a lower rating of 1000 and gets games almost instantly every time he hits launch…most higher rated players can say that they have to wait much longer. It’s pointless, it’s destructive, and it’s annoying. Fix it or make it less of a factor for games…simply having huge teams would make one person’s abilities masked by the overall play of the team, and you have balance.
Now back to the point; T4-5 are joined because they are equal in many ways. Sure, ships are slightly better in T5, but the T4 premiums are highly competitive. I will agree that implants become an issue here, but let’s be honest, the T5 implants are really much less important than the lower ranks. I think they should be joined, personally, until the game has enough players to sustain the higher rank games indefinitely.