Add Advanced Duplicator for Secret Projects

Suggestions Levelling and Economy
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Idea is simple. New top secret project ships will soon be available.

 

Why this device should be introduced?

 

Due to recent changes, constant updates, nerfs in one area and buffs in the other, users are forced to “change their preferences”.

Some players might benefit more now, than the others, who constructed a ship before them, due to balance changes.

 

Since this is not yet possible, due to monocrystal limitation, I suggest the following.

 

If you own “Advanced Deconstruction Matrix” - aka “Advanced Disassembler”, you can get 100% of your resources back, including monocrystals, with the exception of the credits that you spent for each specific module construction part for the ship and final construction phase price. Those spent credits will be lost permanently.

 

This device allows you, that you can disassemble a ship construction parts and and get all the resources delivered in your warehouse/workshop, so you can rebuild any ship from scratch with a different configuration or even class.

 

Should be available in Store for 500GS, for example under pro tools category/section.

Option to craft it for yourself should also be available as well, but the cost would need to be a lot higher to get one (more types of resources and higher quantities) + significantly more credits to build one.

 

There will be no 5th day rewards including this item for free.

 

That’s all.

 

Let me know what you think.

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Rename it to “Advanced Disassembler” and you get my upvote, a duplicator would give you a second secret project ship :o

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Rename it to “Advanced Disassembler” and you get my upvote, a duplicator would give you a seconds secret project ship :o

 

I was thinking about Disassembler word as well, I agree with you. It’s more appropriate for this sort of thing.

Thanks. :wink:

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For me, it’s a no.

A full refund isn’t Ok. Peoples will abuse of it. They’ll try a lots of build for “nothing” depending of balance updates.

  • Engi got nerfed? OK, I’ll take Gunship.

  • Nah, they nerfed my Invincible build. OK, I’ll reset my layout to use a new one.

The max reset you should have from salvaging those special ships is all those hull/shield/stuff components without the 6M and the internal structures.

It’s like having a refund button for your active/passive/guns. Too much.

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For me, it’s a no.

A full refund isn’t Ok. Peoples will abuse of it. They’ll try a lots of build for “nothing” depending of balance updates.

  • Engi got nerfed? OK, I’ll take Gunship.

  • Nah, they nerfed my Invincible build. OK, I’ll reset my layout to use a new one.

The max reset you should have from salvaging those special ships is all those hull/shield/stuff components without the 6M and the internal structures.

It’s like having a refund button for your active/passive/guns. Too much.

 

You complain too much. If that’s not good for you, then they should rise and set the price for 10000 GS instead of 500GS. I think that only 1 person out of 50 would buy this device then.

Those, who can, are people like Global Moderators,Game Masters, Super Testers, etc…

Deconstruction costs for materials to construct one such device should then be equal to the original ship cost, but without monocrystal investment. To compensate, high amount of credits would be required, maybe even 5% or 10% of total credits currently available, regarless of your current balance account. In this case if you own 100000000 credits, you would lose 10000000, because of 10% ratio.

 

Is this what you really want to prevent abuse?

 

For me the only viable option would be to limit how many times you can do this. Other things would remain the same, as I explained in my 1st post above. Full refund on components, internal structers and monocrystals.

Limit it to 1 use per month/3 months, at least. If you didn’t use the device in the meantime, you won’t get 2 in 2/6 months, because they don’t stack and accumulate with non-use.

6

I wish we had lower tier constructed ships, but not for the layout, but simply by nostalgia for the old times when sub-factions actually meant something. (the 3 versions of the modules)

Although it will not happen.

But I am for any change that will let me change around the ship I build.

Maybe if you want to switch from 3 hull 2 shield to 2 hull 3 shield you have to craft that shield component and simply lose the hull one ? Also lose 6M.

But wanting to disassemble your tiny interceptor to build engineer with the same components … Even lore wise - really ?

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Can I get some background information before I decide? I’ve only really got one question.

 

What happens when you salvage a Secret Project ship? Do you get 75% of your materials back? 50%? Do you lose everything and have to start all over? Does it give you all your raw materials back but not monocrystals so you have to farm for 60+ days again?

 

What happens? Because this module sounds like a good idea, but I don’t know what the current system does.

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Can I get some background information before I decide? I’ve only really got one question.

 

What happens when you salvage a Secret Project ship? Do you get 75% of your materials back? 50%? Do you lose everything and have to start all over? Does it give you all your raw materials back but not monocrystals so you have to farm for 60+ days again?

 

What happens? Because this module sounds like a good idea, but I don’t know what the current system does.

 

Afaik you get 75% of your materials back.

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Afaik you get 75% of your materials back.

anyone crazy enough to try ?

as of materials you mean the basic materials or the built components?

10

anyone crazy enough to try ?

 

 

BA HA HA HAAAAAA HA HAAA!

 

No.

 

Once I finish my 3 months of grinding to build that thing, it’s staying built.

11

Until your OP build is nerfed.

 

You know it will happen.

12

thanks for the input - forwarded to Devs

 

the extraction rate maybe too high from your propoasal

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I don’t have myself a secret project yet (waiting for other roles), but one of my corp member told us there is a “Disassemble” option on the contextual menu of his Octopus. 

 

Is this koro’s suggestion implemented, or something else ?

 

What do you get when you dissassemble a secret project ?  The Ship Parts (engine package, reactor package ) ? The raw ressources ?

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I don’t have myself a secret project yet (waiting for other roles), but one of my corp member told us there is a “Disassemble” option on the contextual menu of his Octopus. 

 

Is this koro’s suggestion implemented, or something else ?

 

What do you get when you dissassemble a secret project ?  The Ship Parts (engine package, reactor package ) ? The raw ressources ?

 

I believe that this is the standard option, which got implemented from the start. You retain 75% of your resources, but you lose all the rest.

My suggestion won’t get implemented, since the developers do not have any plans on improving this aspect, so it got swiftly ignored.

15

Ok thanks. Anyone tried it yet ?

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You can dissasemble the ship and you lose about 20% of the parts ramdomly.

 

It is not that much, with about 100 crystals you will be able to remake the ship with another slot configuration.

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Guy in our corp dissambled an Octopus and made a video:

 

 

I’ve not watched the whole thing but he might explain what you lose.

18

Thanks for the suggestion. We will review this idea some time later in the future.

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Thanks for the suggestion. We will review this idea some time later in the future.

Any ETA? This is really needed.

We must be able to craft 1 or buy it with GS!

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As soon as we got news, we will let you know.