A Diffusion Shield Question

Hi, I’ve recently tried giving Command ships another shot, and I have a couple of questions if anyone is willing to answer them (please and ty!)

 

  1. If Diffusion Shield absorbs all damage, are debuffs/buffs (resistances), applied, and if so, which resistance modifier is used (shield always, or does it switch to hull if it is activated when the shield is depleted beforehand)? My guess is most likely no, since it probably counts as an “outside” form of shielding, separate from the shield of the ship itself.

 

  1. Does energy recuperation (both the passive and implant) have any effect on the Diffusion Shield? Once again my guess is probably no, since it is absorbing the damage before the ship does, it probably doesn’t proc.

 

I appreciate any information given, or a link to where this information has already been answered if it has!

Diffusion shield has zero resists and energy recuperation does not effect the ship while under diffusion shield. After the fact though when you shield is down its nice to have the implant or one recoupe in your passive slot to gain energy once you lose your shield.

Thank you very much for the feedback! I definitely plan on keeping the energy recoup implant so I can regain the energy needed to use a shield recovery module, as well as having enough for afterburners.

The implant works under diffusion shield, but the energy recup mods don’t and i am 100% sure of it. Diffusion shield is indeed a 3rd protection layer, but you do need some shield in order to have it active, so if a Recon ship depletes your shields to 0 while DS is up, it will turn off just like when running out of energy or the 15 seconds of activity.

The implant works under diffusion shield, but the energy recup mods don’t and i am 100% sure of it. Diffusion shield is indeed a 3rd protection layer, but you do need some shield in order to have it active, so if a Recon ship depletes your shields to 0 while DS is up, it will turn off just like when running out of energy or the 15 seconds of activity.

Wrong. Diffusion Shield can also be activated if you have zero shields (point: Imperial Commands). It safeguards your armour whilst your shields recuperate from healing effects (local shield repper or engineer heals).

 

I did that to Commands on my Recon MANY times, I emptied what was left of their shields and the Diffusion Shield was still up and running.

Mine seems to be going down for some reason under parasitic remodulator… (jeri command)

Mine seems to be going down for some reason under parasitic remodulator… (jeri command)

You sure that wasn’t just energy being drained from being under fire?

You sure that wasn’t just energy being drained from being under fire?

Very sure. It happened many times that i was @ half energy or more and the shield just faded under the effect. And still not at 15 second mark.

Hmm… gonna have to test that again, then.

Let me add my answer: 

 

Diffusion shield actually reduces the damage by 90%, not 100 !

 

Have not noticed it while flying the ship, but against it. My damage turns from 600 to 60 when they bubble.

 

Also that is the case if you bubble after emergency barrier and you get killed before energy is depleted completely.

 

The energy recoup systems actually still work when using diffusion shield, but the damage you get energy from is that 10%. 

 

So from 600 damage you would’ve got 90 energy (15% for example sake). When shield is up you will get 9 energy instead. It is too low to notice, but if you are under heavy fire it may negate few extra shots that may mean getting near engineer and live or not.

 

The shield stops once your energy hits 0 (even after only 2-3 sec, not 15) and if you have regenerated some shield the damage starts there then hull.

 

Shields have 900 resists to all, which translates into  Damage = Base damage / 1+resist(900)/100 = Damage * 0.1.

 

Although those resists are not affected by target painter, since it says shields and hull.

… what Mapoko said above ^

I actually thought about it and i think you’re right really.

Let me add my answer: 

 

Diffusion shield actually reduces the damage by 90%, not 100 !

 

Have not noticed it while flying the ship, but against it. My damage turns from 600 to 60 when they bubble.

 

Also that is the case if you bubble after emergency barrier and you get killed before energy is depleted completely.

 

The energy recoup systems actually still work when using diffusion shield, but the damage you get energy from is that 10%. 

 

So from 600 damage you would’ve got 90 energy (15% for example sake). When shield is up you will get 9 energy instead. It is too low to notice, but if you are under heavy fire it may negate few extra shots.

As far as I know, you dont take any damage at all while under the effects of the Difusion Shield, and the only way it drops is due to:

No energy left

Timer ran out

Nope. 

Just join some game, find a command ship, focus it and watch the numbers turning from xxx to xxx/10 when you see him bubbling. It is not 0 damage. 

Or start a game with a friend, beef up to 1200 energy, bubble and let him shoot you. You will see your shields fluctuating. If you have high enough shield regeneration to cover that 10% damage you receive it should go up and gown every second by some pixels.

Now I’m interested in testing Commands even more than I already have… I never noticed my shields fluctuating while the Diffusion Shield was up. Ever.

Nope. 

Just join some game, find a command ship, focus it and watch the numbers turning from xxx to xxx/10 when you see him bubbling. It is not 0 damage. 

Or start a game with a friend, beef up to 1200 energy, bubble and let him shoot you. You will see your shields fluctuating. If you have high enough shield regeneration to cover that 10% damage you receive it should go up and gown every second by some pixels.

The damage you see is the damage done to his energy bar, not to his shield as far as I know.

The damage you see is the damage done to his energy bar, not to his shield as far as I know.

Correct.

Diffusion shield converts 10% of the incoming damage to energy damage and blocks the rest. No shield or hull damage is taken from damage hitting the diffusion shield.

Then explain how do I die activating my shield on 1200 energy, having 0 shields, 200 hull, surviving some shots (it is not lagged bullets hitting me) then die on 400-600 energy and shield still on ?

 

No collision damage.

Then explain how do I die activating my shield on 1200 energy, having 0 shields, 200 hull, surviving some shots (it is not lagged bullets hitting me) then die on 400-600 energy and shield still on ?

 

No collision damage.

Hit with plasma web before hitting F? Not flying commands atm but IIRC it continues to tick on shield/hull after you put up the diffusion shield.

Hit with plasma web before hitting F? Not flying commands atm but IIRC it continues to tick on shield/hull after you put up the diffusion shield.

Diffusion Shield does not drain this because the effect is already on you, not incoming, so this might’ve been what happened.

Hit with plasma web before hitting F? Not flying commands atm but IIRC it continues to tick on shield/hull after you put up the diffusion shield.

 

If I did not have big enough data to check I would’ve not answered this topic.

 

The only thing that can actually kill me in situation like that aside web is collision if it works like you said.

Anomaly gets reduced by shields and diffusion shield as well.