Could anyone please explain this?
It seems 800K is far too much to change sectors, and even 200K was.
Unless… Could it be…? Maybe… the devs want us to pay GS for hangar change?
Could anyone please explain this?
It seems 800K is far too much to change sectors, and even 200K was.
Unless… Could it be…? Maybe… the devs want us to pay GS for hangar change?
Unless… Could it be…? Maybe… the devs want us to pay GS for hangar change? /sarcasm
I think they are serious with that. They want players to use GS instead of credits… :013j:
Every game company wants you to buy and spend gold but this? clearly there is a mistake on somewhere, gold rush lol
Could anyone please explain this?
It’s called “artificial inflation”. More new players are buying GS, therefore they jack up prices to make the in-game money not go as far as it used to and encourage players to use the ‘cheap’ real-money option.
The only way to make it stop is to refuse to pay with GS on features like this (so the corporation behind it gets the hint that players don’t like it via statistics) and spend GS on features you do like.
Of course, we’ve seen how this can also backfire. The increase in T5 Premium costs (and the removal of the credit options for ship customization) proved that they can and will try to exploit feature that players like, to get a little more cash out of them.
So I guess my point is: Don’t expect things to get better anytime soon.
Or just fly to other sectors like the old days… takes about 10 minutes total for 2 trips.
Or just fly to other sectors like the old days… takes about 10 minutes total for 2 trips.
Not everyone have rank 10 recons. I remember my rank 9 days, and I won’t never, EVER pay 500k credits for switching factions. I remember hoarding credits and waiting for sales to buy ships… hardly you will have money for that.
And in fact, since the PvE rebalancing, Tier 3 has less income, because previously you could do Blackwood in a Phobos and get almost 500.000 credits. Now you can’t.
And invasion profit is made in rank 10 sectors, not in rank 7 or rank 4.
Not everyone have rank 10 recons. I remember my rank 9 days, and I won’t never, EVER pay 500k credits for switching factions. I remember hoarding credits and waiting for sales to buy ships… hardly you will have money for that.
And in fact, since the PvE rebalancing, Tier 3 has less income, because previously you could do Blackwood in a Phobos and get almost 500.000 credits. Now you can’t.
And invasion profit is made in rank 10 sectors, not in rank 7 or rank 4.
There is little I can add to this. All is true, but it looks like this trend will either continue to grow or stay as it is now. Both is unacceptable and we will start to lose players over time over this.
Spatial Scanners were cheap in the early days of Invasion mode and you could get all 3 of them (T3-T5 Spatial Scanners) for I think 20 EUR, if not even less. Thats around 6000GS, if not even less than this. Maybe even for 10 EUR, I can’t be sure.
Now one all the those spatial scanners now cost 3000GS for T3, 5000GS for T4 and 6000 for T5, total amount is 14000GS for those “special” scanners. You almost get 6 months of a free license for that money.
I can say it’s around 45 EUR. Of course, if you buy a scanner, it won’t stay there like a blueprint, where you could learn it and duplicate it or upgrade it to mark V. No, only one scanner costs such amount.
This is just an example. There will be no sales or very little ones, like 20% on those now, so new players don’t gain much.
Too bad we will never get the normal ships discount after 1.0. Ever.
All I see is puny 10% reward on t4/5 and bundles.
Its like it matters if a ship is 45 euro a piece or 40. Everything above 10 (40 for a lineup of 4 ships) is too much.
Too bad (for them) that this game counts on macro transactions.
If they had micro transactions they would’ve drained me off alot of money.
You know “just 2 euro” today … and tomorrow and the day after and for that and that …
But instead “Give us 50-100 euro at once”. Never. I can buy a full game of the ones that are released now. 4 ships or 4 full games?
One thing I’m questioning is why haven’t they overhauled the economy yet? Some players leave at early tiers because of the grind and some players get stuck in T3 with no progression and just lose interest in the game. It’s bad enough a ship in T4 and 5 will cost you abouts a days worth of grinding (non-stop).
Because this is the company that saw red and black were the most popular colours, and so doubled the price. They live in their own little world and don’t understand that you can make a lot more money by making people want to spend more, instead of trying to force them to spend more.
Too bad we will never get the normal ships discount after 1.0. Ever.
All I see is puny 10% reward on t4/5 and bundles.
Its like it matters if a ship is 45 euro a piece or 40. Everything above 10 (40 for a lineup of 4 ships) is too much.
Too bad (for them) that this game counts on macro transactions.
If they had micro transactions they would’ve drained me off alot of money.
You know “just 2 euro” today … and tomorrow and the day after and for that and that …
But instead “Give us 50-100 euro at once”. Never. I can buy a full game of the ones that are released now. 4 ships or 4 full games?
Yeah, that’s what I’m thinking when i look at the prices. If you do it smart, you’ll even get 8 Games for the actual pricing of 4 Premium T5. Outrageous.
Because this is the company that saw red and black were the most popular colours, and so doubled the price. They live in their own little world and don’t understand that you can make a lot more money by making people want to spend more, instead of trying to force them to spend more.
Never understood why they did that. Just doesn’t make any sense. Decreasing all color prices to push sales would have made sense. Trying to use real world econimical tools in a game
I haven’t spent any money on this game for about good 9 Months. The situation isn’t getting better. I don’t know how russians do business, but as an European, i just feel disrespected by such prices and methods.
And what happens when players feel treated disrespectful?
Yeah, that’s what I’m thinking when i look at the prices. If you do it smart, you’ll even get 8 Games for the actual pricing of 4 Premium T5. Outrageous.
I actually don’t mind this high pricing for T5 ships. At least Aces will think twice about buying them and jumping straight to T5.
At least I haven’t noticed any overwhelming increase in the number of people with all T5 premiums in T5 PVP. There’s still the odd Mauler + 3 T4 ship fools, but other than that I just see a Spark or Golden Eagle every now and then, which is how it should be.
I fear that as soon as there is a sale or a price cut, that this will change horribly.
well, nothing wrong with premium ships. They’re mostly not as good as the credits counter parts. Yeah, tier rushers are an annoyance, but this shouldn’t be solved by cranking up premium ship prices.
Let’s say, they do a 50% Sale, that’s still about 200 bucks for all of them. I don’t know about others, but i would at maximum pay 100 bucks, which, is still a load of money.
I’d say drop the T4 and T5 Premium costs to T3 levels, but put rank requirements in - you need a Rank 9 ship to buy T4 Prem and Rank 12 to buy a T5 Prem.
I’d say drop the T4 and T5 Premium costs to T3 levels, but put rank requirements in - you need a Rank 9 ship to buy T4 Prem and Rank 12 to buy a T5 Prem.
that would be an idea. You’d have to add, to not let the rank go up because you bought a premium ship. you’d have to synergize the normal ships in order to buy the premiums.
This won’t prevent tier rushing, because you could just synergize one ship lineup, but would be a start.
In F2P games there is 1 motto - sell in quantity !
So, making the stuff cheaper will actually sell more and more people will consider it.
You get less profit PER UNIT, but when you sell 2000 units instead of 500 it compensates.
It is not a real life product, so you have materials costs per unit. Once done you can copy it unlimited times and care about maintenance.
But I do not see what maintenance is needed for GS ships or Colors. Colors, maybe.
But hey, we are playing their game, we agreed to their rules so we have 2 options : Cave in and p(l)ay or quit.
thanks for the input - forwarded to Devs