T4 dead - waiting forever for a game

we try it every now and then. sometimes you have nice games in T4, sometimes it’s better to re-t3.

 

 

u sure? coz most ppl have no credits to buy ships. synergy farms okay, vouchers farm okay once you have a base amount of 120k or something per faction, especially if you just try to do the first one each game, but credits…

so ppl go pve all the time, to get more credits, lose interest, and do not queue for pvp.

 

So both, Credits and vouchers. 

u sure? coz most ppl have no credits to buy ships. synergy farms okay, vouchers farm okay once you have a base amount of 120k or something per faction, especially if you just try to do the first one each game, but credits…

so ppl go pve all the time, to get more credits, lose interest, and do not queue for pvp.

 

Credits are much easier to farm. Couple PVE rounds give you enough… and regular pvp battles keeps bringing more credits

The normal population should have enough credits for all their needs. The upper-end population has… well, see for yourselves - http://funkyimg.com/i/EbD6.jpg (hint: 383m at that moment)

 

Vouchers, on the other side, are harder to farm due to cooldown on contracts and high prices in upper tiers

Credits are much easier to farm. Couple PVE rounds give you enough… and regular pvp battles keeps bringing more credits

The normal population should have enough credits for all their needs. The upper-end population has… well, see for yourselves - http://funkyimg.com/i/EbD6.jpg (hint: 383m at that moment)

 

Vouchers, on the other side, are harder to farm due to cooldown on contracts and high prices in upper tiers

considering those guys have 10 000+ battles, i am not surprised they have so much moneyzzz

As soon as you unlock T5 contracts +license (and lucky me DLC loyalty bonuses) actual loyalty farm isnt that bad, even for T5 modules

considering those guys have 10 000+ battles, i am not surprised they have so much moneyzzz

As soon as you unlock T5 contracts +license (and lucky me DLC loyalty bonuses) actual loyalty farm isnt that bad, even for T5 modules

 

Even with t5(t4) contracts and all the bells and whistles it takes me days to get enough vouchers for a single t5 module. And that’s with DLCs and licence… people without those have a harder time

Not to mention most of the highest paying contracts are pvp-based and can’t be done if you happen to be in the wrong timezone (goodluck getting a t4 game with 600 people on :P)

 

But yes, voucher farm for lower tiers is very easy once you have the highest contracts unlocked.

Me and several other corp members have been experiencing long wait times as well. Some of us que up solo, wait 5 to 10 minutes only to be matched up against each other.

Its cool and all to be against each other, but why not match us right off. Instead of wasting our time. I have a lot of contracts I would like to do, but can’t due to wait times.

I have the mmque tool. It show people are in ques, but its like many ques, instead of combining us in to one larger que. 

 

On another note, The custom battles needs to be tuned to allow some settings to be changed without affecting the regulated status.

The creator should be able to shift the members to one side or the other to create corp on corp battles, without hurting the rewards received to those who play.

 

No one want to play without rewards. So its wait forever, or go PVE. And pve only allows so many contracts to be completed.

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Even with t5(t4) contracts and all the bells and whistles it takes me days to get enough vouchers for a single t5 module. And that’s with DLCs and licence… people without those have a harder time

Not to mention most of the highest paying contracts are pvp-based and can’t be done if you happen to be in the wrong timezone (goodluck getting a t4 game with 600 people on :P)

 

But yes, voucher farm for lower tiers is very easy once you have the highest contracts unlocked.

 I personally don’t think that getting a single T5 mk3 in couple of days is a bad thing, having access to max gear right out of the bat, defeats a purpose of any progression.

 T4-T5 contracts can be done In Sector Conquest, are they not?

 T4-T5 Contracts can be done in Custom Regulated matches, i know Russians host those once-twice a week 12-12 in T4-T5 games - get rewards, fun, synergy and contracts - no wait because people already know about those and not random LFP in general chat. It mostly NA that is screwed with progression due to lack of players, and at this stage i do not see it as a game fault.

but why not match us right off. Instead of wasting our time.

Because then people would complain about small games. So the matchmaker waits for more people to join the queue before starting a game

 

 

 I personally don’t think that getting a single T5 mk3 in couple of days is a bad thing, having access to max gear right out of the bat, defeats a purpose of any progression.

 T4-T5 contracts can be done In Sector Conquest, are they not?

 T4-T5 Contracts can be done in Custom Regulated matches, i know Russians host those once-twice a week 12-12 in T4-T5 games - get rewards, fun, synergy and contracts - no wait because people already know about those and not random LFP in general chat

That’s a good point. But imo the prices should be a little lower

Not sure about sector conquest and contracts… never really paid attention.

Yes, custom battle is one option and i’ve played quite a few games in ESB/SYN lobbies. But those need more people… and small corps like ours usually falls short of people to make one.

I agree vouchers are hardest to get, spending GS in T3+ is not really an option for most as that is really expensive when you upgrade several modules.

 

You can get credits by doing many PvP battles (if you get soem and don’t have to wait long) or do boring PvE.

 

Why don’t several corps join to weekly custom/regulated battles for T4 so people have a chance to fly their ships and level them up. As already mentioned there is not really a point to grind all credits, syn in T3 for T4 ships because you don’t learn how to fly the T4 ship until you really use them. Skipping to T5 is the same.

Because then people would complain about small games. So the matchmaker waits for more people to join the queue before starting a game

 

 

All I seem to get is 3v3 to 4v4. So matchmaker is broken.

Someone yinxed the Matchmaking system. And as a reward I get people, who are losing the game 80% of the time. Coincidence? I think not… We need an exorcist!

This needs to change.

 

NeoCodex, any ideas?

I am full purple on all my T4s from before the artifact change, but every time I join no matter 800 or 2300 ppl the result is the same - queue is longer than the match and the match is in the low numbers. Tried R11s only, R12s, even R10 only, but no dice.

 

My T5s are full green/some purple, but the queue there is even more terrible. So I am forced to either play T3 or another game. I outgrew T3 half a year ago. 

I am full purple on all my T4s from before the artifact change, but every time I join no matter 800 or 2300 ppl the result is the same - queue is longer than the match and the match is in the low numbers. Tried R11s only, R12s, even R10 only, but no dice.

 

My T5s are full green/some purple, but the queue there is even more terrible. So I am forced to either play T3 or another game. I outgrew T3 half a year ago. 

 

actually you are more likely to get a t5 game (even in a squad) than a t4 game.