survival drop's on engineering frigs

Game Discussion Miscellaneous
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So my t-rex was 54k survival since either before last patch or before that one.

 

after the last patch or the second last patch my survival dropped to 51936, i got shield resistance booster on aswell (thats what my survival currently is)

so first i though it was like that all the time but then bluesea also noticed it had dropped around 1-2k on hes styx. 

 

and on my t-rex i still got same modules and everything mk4, same as before. its never been under 54k survival with that except if booster was not bought. 

 

and now i asked some GM’s and they didn’t know either. 

 

did someone else notice this aswell?. i tried to find a screenshot but was no luck with that. but im sure my survival dropped around 1-2.5k 

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Really? I checked myself, and my Styx didn’t loose any point.

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well this happend either last week or the week before that. so if u remember ur exact survival from then you should noticed it has dropped. 

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R1 Implants were nerfed some weeks ago

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R1 Implants were nerfed some weeks ago

It came with the nerf to passive Hull Resistance modules as well.

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it doesnt make up for it,

 

not 2k surv for 5 resistance. i use hull resistance always used since last year. r1 jericho implant. was it 25 before? that does not give another 2k surv with 5 extra resistance. 

 

the r1 jericho is 20 extra hull resistance now, i cant really say if it was 25 before? 

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it doesnt make up for it,

 

not 2k surv for 5 resistance. i use hull resistance always used since last year. r1 jericho implant. was it 25 before? that does not give another 2k surv with 5 extra resistance. 

 

the r1 jericho is 20 extra hull resistance now, i cant really say if it was 25 before? 

 

It’s not 5, it’s 15 (5 EM 5 Kin 5 Ther) and as Kostyan said, also some hull modules were nerfed. I would say 15 resistance on hull indeed take away 2000 surv points, wich is not much.

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ITS NOT ENOUGH I SAID

 

waow

 

try it urself. already tested it

 

i tried +30, it gave + 800-1000 surv. not 2000 - 2500 surv 

 

i already checked my INQ AE, it has exacly same survival, same as my guard, and same with my Waki AE and Waki R

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Please read the latest [patch](< base_url >/index.php?/forum/181-patches-read-only/) notes for balance changes.

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ITS NOT ENOUGH I SAID

 

waow

 

try it urself. already tested it

 

i tried +30, it gave + 800-1000 surv. not 2000 - 2500 surv 

 

i already checked my INQ AE, it has exacly same survival, same as my guard, and same with my Waki AE and Waki R

 

Values are not the same when your resistance is 0 or when it’s 100.

 

If you add 30 resistance when you have -10 or 0, you will gain way more points than when you have already a high number like 80-100.

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Values are not the same when your resistance is 0 or when it’s 100.

 

If you add 30 resistance when you have -10 or 0, you will gain way more points than when you have already a high number like 80-100.

i also know that, 

 

my ships are only resistance so adding +10 to all at the end with modules. or +5 or +20. its still not +1000 surv. 

 

if i take away resistance then add +5 for each, then it means more, but that doesnt matter when my t-rex loses -5 resistance for each type at the final results. thats like going from 70 to 65 - 90 - 85 and 60 - 55

 

difference = barely anything. wich is not even close to 2500 survival that i lost. 

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check the 2 patches, up to 3th july, there is no change in implants or passive modules.

 

i believe my surv changed since this patch that recently was. from 54k to 51900 surv. = 2000 loss what so ever. 

 

there is no way 5 resistance for each type can setback that much when my resistances are this high.

 

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Ugh that build… 

 

Anyway there have been no changes, I’ve tried it and my ships have the same survivability than before. You must be missing something, like the fed R15 implant or something like that. Who knows.

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yah like i said, engineering’s only, and bluesea only flies engi’s and he noticed it aswell. its not only me. my other survival is what its supposed to be. 

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This is one screenshot I got like a month ago: 

 

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And I took this one 5 minutes ago:

 

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As you can see there were changes not only to R1 implants but also to base hull and shield stats (everything were buffs, not nerfs)

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i said 2 patches ago, not 3 

 

and my survival changed on last patch. 

 

also thats not a t-rex so we cant use that 

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Now look this 2 Styx screenshots:

 

This first one is very old, I made it like 8-10 months ago

 

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I tried to replicate exactly as it was (resistances and hull and shield values not the rotation or speed), and I took this screenshot right now:

 

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Shield points and hull points are EXACTLY the same, but resistances went down by 5-6 points in each hull.

 

I lost 2281 points.

 

EDIT: you guys either messed your implants or simply didn’t notice the R1 nerfs…

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it simply means there was a change for t-rex that got messed up

 

ur resistance on kinetic changed by 4.7 instead of 5 by implant 

 

also you should figure why higher survival ships would lose more survival than a 54 000 survival ship,  :01414:

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I just proved the point with screenshots. You just didn’t notice the 3 week change untill today, sorry. (also make sure you are using F15 implant).

 

Also, kinetic changed by 4.7 but EM and Thermal changed by 8 points.

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that is not enough., only neurocontroller HR1 - SE actually affects me, other than that its nothing.  

 

read the discussion of patch notes there pls, im there residente. and my survival dropped 2k from last patch or the patch before that but not the one last month