Star Conflict OBT v.0.9.9 Discussion

US server ~200ms

EU server ~300ms

RU server ~350ms

TBH, if you complain while having less than 200 ping, you should really just deal with it…

While having no Problems playing at the RU servers (stable at 60 Ping) I noticed some “slow downs” since the recent patch.

It feels like the Game is slowed down for about 1 second and then going back to normal… 

And is it actually physically routed to Russia? )

Through fiber? That I don’t know. But it wouldn’t explain why Lucky has a MUCH lower ping on the RU servers than on the US ones.

It’s still closer to Russia! Depending on where in Russia.

 

Netherlands -> Gernamy -> Poland -> Russia

 

Netherlands -> UK -> Ireland -> Canada -> US

Yes, because cables just go through shortest geographical route, completely ignoring border crossings, georgraphical features of the land and complex art that is cable laying techniques.

 

Here, have fun: http://www.submarinecablemap.com/

 

Little known fact: most of West Russia’s internet traffic from the West is actually routed through Sweden and Finland (which is why you see so many Germany<>Sweden cables laid), at least in part because NSA wanted to have good access to it and Sweden was willing to implement appropriate legislation to let its own agencies spy on all traffic and then give it to US. That and because cable companies didn’t want to take their chances with politically unstable countries between Western Europe and Russia.

Yes, because cables just go through shortest geographical route, completely ignoring border crossings, georgraphical features of the land and complex art that is cable laying techniques.

 

Here, have fun: http://www.submarinecablemap.com/

 

Little known fact: most of West Russia’s internet traffic from the West is actually routed through Sweden and Finland (which is why you see so many Germany<>Sweden cables laid), at least in part because NSA wanted to have good access to it and Sweden was willing to implement appropriate legislation to let its own agencies spy on all traffic and then give it to US. That and because cable companies didn’t want to take their chances with politically unstable countries between Western Europe and Russia.

Unfortunately, that only shows underwater cables, not surface ones.

 

And I just realized I missed Belarus entirely…

Unfortunately, that only shows underwater cables, not surface ones.

 

And I just realized I missed Belarus entirely…

Underwater cables have to be registered with appropriate agencies to be added to maps so that anchors aren’t dropped on top of them all the time breaking them and as a result are well known. Ground cabling doesn’t not follow the same rules, and has no centralized mapping.

 

But laying sea cable is more than an order of magnitude more expensive. And reading the rest of explanation in the post would actually have saved you the need to type out the response I quote.

I did read it. Nothing changed.

US server ~200ms

EU server ~300ms

RU server ~350ms

TBH, if you complain while having less than 200 ping, you should really just deal with it…

If you are used to 200 ping, I can understand your response.

But as someone who is used to a ping of 15-30, getting a ping of 100+ is a pain since my actions become a lot worse since the game response is terrible.

 

And antibus, the matchmaker keeps putting me in RU server, it is not my choice.

And antibus, the matchmaker keeps putting me in RU server, it is not my choice.

And which one do you choose?

Choose? We don’t really have that option.

 

It is either of these options:

Random server <1 minute queue

Specific server >5 minute queue

 

Not much of a choice.

Choose? We don’t really have that option.

 

It is either of these options:

Random server <1 minute queue

Specific server >5 minute queue

 

Not much of a choice.

What server do you choose in menu. Please, be specific:

  • What server do you choose.

  • What server are you being put on. F11 in game.

I choose:

Any

 

I get put on

Russian > 80%

EU > 15%

US > 5%

 

 

Why do I choose any? Because it is the only option with non-5 minute queues.

It is like the discussion of Arcade vs Realistic in 7.8

 

 

Nerf the Particle Purge Plz, its getting very annoying and is way too powerful. 

 

Thanx for thr info zap lol

I removed tnat mod time ago…time to give it a try again lol

 

I’d like an option to adjust the brightness of specific HUD items. I need my crosshair and aim indicator to stand out, not be lost behind the bright red text of enemy ship data.

 

+1

esb squads are abusing the hell out of it right now and it’s very annoying

ESB squads abusing it and ESB members complaining about it.  That’s a sure sign it’s OP.  I’d only ever tried it on Empire gunships which aren’t as effective with it, and then I took it off.

 

Where are you from? Why are you playing on Russian server when you are from ~EU?

I’m a little surprised by this comment actually.  Picking a specific server often involves long waits and small matches.  I often get put on RU servers during Russian dead time.  Maybe it’s an issue of server load balancing, but RU servers give me 160-180ms ping.  I still fly interceptors with 180ms ping, but round trip becomes a third of a second.  Add in human and mouse response time and it’s probably over half a second between something happens on the server and it gets my reply to that action.

 

It is kind of shocking the game is as playable as it is in an interceptor with that ping time.

That’s not correct. Empire’s first role is Gunship, ergo in T3 the rank 9 should be a Gunship, period. There’re ppl who can’t and will not want to buy GS just to have a proper Empire Gunship on T3, it’s just not xxxx correct.

Same with Swarm and Black Swarm.

 

The same way with Fed, why the hell I have to pay real money to play the Fed’s first role in Fighters, Tackler? It makes no sense.

Same with the rank 7 Recon, it should be 8, Anaconda a Guard and Anaconda-M an Engineer.

 

And I have the Desert Eagle, Nukem II, Bear and Parallax, but I still find this tree incorrect. The only proper tree is the Jericho one, because it was added last. The only bad thing in that tree is Ira Deus, it should be rank 8, and Crus A, it should be a premium Guard, not a premium LRF.

 

 

 

Then why the hell Katana-S is not a Tackler? we have the Strong and the Dragonfly, we also have the Spirit as ECM, why Kris-AE is not a Cov Ops?

 

 

Exactly my point. Basically they are saying, u wanna play a good gunship to win the game? PAY FOR IT… Which means, pay to win, because unless u pay you can never have a R9 gunship, or an R9 engeneer (feds), and R9 Sniper (empire) and R9 recon (empire)

And which one do you choose?

I chose ANY, wait 30s~60s and the game put me in a RU

I chose US (155 ms in brazil, good enough to have fun), wait 5min and the game put me in a RU.

I chose EU( 230ms in brazil but still is good enoung), wait 5 min and the game put me in RU.

I chose RU…no, in dont chose because the 320 ms+ packet loss make impossible to play.

I choose:

Any

 

I get put on

Russian > 80%

EU > 15%

US > 5%

 

 

Why do I choose any? Because it is the only option with non-5 minute queues.

It is like the discussion of Arcade vs Realistic in 7.8

What are you suggesting that devs should do about the fact that for most players of the game, an optimal server that is suboptimal for you? Should they be so undemocratic as to make the majority have a more laggy game?

That’s not correct. Empire’s first role is Gunship, ergo in T3 the rank 9 should be a Gunship, period. There’re ppl who can’t and will not want to buy GS just to have a proper Empire Gunship on T3, it’s just not xxxx correct.

Same with Swarm and Black Swarm.

 

The same way with Fed, why the hell I have to pay real money to play the Fed’s first role in Fighters, Tackler? It makes no sense.

Same with the rank 7 Recon, it should be 8, Anaconda a Guard and Anaconda-M an Engineer.

 

And I have the Desert Eagle, Nukem II, Bear and Parallax, but I still find this tree incorrect. The only proper tree is the Jericho one, because it was added last. The only bad thing in that tree is Ira Deus, it should be rank 8, and Crus A, it should be a premium Guard, not a premium LRF.

I’ve fought that war several times, already. So has Jasan and any more number of people who think it’s unjust. The devs either just don’t give a toss or haven’t heard of it from feedback relays.

 

If this post gets deleted, I guess we’ll know the true answer, heh?

 

Exactly my point. Basically they are saying, u wanna play a good gunship to win the game? PAY FOR IT… Which means, pay to win, because unless u pay you can never have a R9 gunship, or an R9 engeneer (feds), and R9 Sniper (empire) and R9 recon (empire)

In any case, the Fed/Empire Fighter lines ARE P2W, ever since the passive mod changes… I’m not surprised.

I’ve fought that war several times, already. So has Jasan and any more number of people who think it’s unjust. The devs either just don’t give a toss or haven’t heard of it from feedback relays.

 

If this post gets deleted, I guess we’ll know the true answer, heh?

 

In any case, the Fed/Empire Fighter lines ARE P2W, ever since the passive mod changes… I’m not surprised.

It’s been that way before as well. Actually ever since desert eagle was introduced. After roles were introduced, bear became kinda OP as well. Dragonfly was the only one that wasn’t clearly more powerful than others of its type because empire just had a better command ship due to racial bonuses.

ESB squads abusing it and ESB members complaining about it.  That’s a sure sign it’s OP.  I’d only ever tried it on Empire gunships which aren’t as effective with it, and then I took it off.

Good players use clearly overpowered mods. News at 11.

 

There’s a reason why we run things like pulsar and EM torps on frigs and particle purge and aiming overcharge on gunships. They are powerful and fairly universal mods.