Relic modules can get destroyed through shields

Bug Report Section Modules
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  1. Describe the bug in a few words/sentences: Two times a direct hit of cruise missile to Relic shield destroyed my modules, one two modules, second time one module.
  2. Why do you think this is a bug: Shield should block all damage.to modules.
  3. How often does this bug occur: Today when writing this bug report, two times.
  4. What was your last action/How to reproduce the bug: Shield getting hit by Cruise missile but it does not always destroy modules, logs are needed to be checked if module gets damage every time missile hits.
  5. Detailed explanation of the bug.(Only if you need to add more information to 1.)
  6. Your system specs + Operating system as DX Diag: Will include if needed
  7. Videos + Screenshots: None
  8. Log files + Exceptions: Included

 

These situations from logs are seen here:

 

 

09:33:56.594 CMBT | Damage Joseph|-000000001 -\> Module\_Teleporter\_T5\_Epic(Gon009)|0000001078 0.00 (h:0.00 s:0.00) SpaceMissile\_Cruise\_T5\_Mk3 THERMAL|SECONDARY\_WEAPON|EXPLOSION|MODULE 09:33:56.594 CMBT | Killed Module\_Teleporter\_T5\_Epic(Gon009)|0000001078; killer Joseph|-000000001 SpaceMissile\_Cruise\_T5\_Mk3 09:33:56.594 CMBT | Participant Joseph 09:33:56.595 CMBT | Damage Joseph|-000000001 -\> Module\_Javelin\_T5\_Epic(Gon009)|0000001077 0.00 (h:0.00 s:0.00) SpaceMissile\_Cruise\_T5\_Mk3 THERMAL|SECONDARY\_WEAPON|EXPLOSION|MODULE 09:33:56.595 CMBT | Killed Module\_Javelin\_T5\_Epic(Gon009)|0000001077; killer Joseph|-000000001 SpaceMissile\_Cruise\_T5\_Mk3 09:33:56.595 CMBT | Participant Joseph 09:33:56.595 CMBT | Reward Gon009 Ship\_Race2\_H\_T5\_Relic 6 experience for damage Sarah 09:33:56.595 CMBT | Damage Gon009|0000001063 -\> Sarah|0000004641 90.19 (h:90.19 s:0.00) Weapon\_PlasmaBursts\_T5\_Rel KINETIC|IGNORE\_SHIELD 09:33:56.596 CMBT | Heal Emma|0000005028 -\> Emma|0000005028 245.00 Module\_FocusShieldCharge\_T5\_Epic 09:33:56.646 CMBT | Spell 'Spell\_PlasmaBursts\_T5\_Rel' by Gon009(Weapon\_PlasmaBursts\_T5\_Rel) targets(1): n/a(Gon009) 09:33:56.646 CMBT | Reward Gon009 Ship\_Race2\_H\_T5\_Relic 448 experience for damage Emma 09:33:56.646 CMBT | Damage Gon009|0000001063 -\> Emma|0000005028 5713.30 (h:0.00 s:5713.30) Weapon\_PlasmaBursts\_T5\_Rel EMP|PRIMARY\_WEAPON|CRIT 09:33:56.647 CMBT | Heal Sarah|0000004641 -\> Sarah|0000004641 367.50 Module\_FocusShieldCharge\_T5\_Epic 09:33:56.697 CMBT | Apply aura 'Spell\_PlasmaBursts\_T5\_Rel' id 3255 type AURA\_DAMAGE\_EMP\_PERIODIC to 'Emma' 09:33:56.697 CMBT | Damage Gon009|-000000001 -\> Gon009|0000001063 3000.00 (h:3000.00 s:0.00) Module\_Javelin\_T5\_Epic TRUE\_DAMAGE|IGNORE\_SHIELD 09:33:56.697 CMBT | Damage Gon009|-000000001 -\> Gon009|0000001063 3000.00 (h:3000.00 s:0.00) Module\_Teleporter\_T5\_Epic TRUE\_DAMAGE|IGNORE\_SHIELD 09:33:56.698 CMBT | Reward Joseph Ship\_Race5\_L\_ENGINEER\_Rank15\_5 4 experience for damage Gon009 09:33:56.698 CMBT | Damage Joseph|-000000001 -\> Gon009|0000001063 3451.73 (h:3451.73 s:0.00) SpaceMissile\_Cruise\_T5\_Mk3 THERMAL|SECONDARY\_WEAPON|EXPLOSION|MODULE 09:33:56.698 CMBT | Reward Joseph Ship\_Race5\_L\_ENGINEER\_Rank15\_5 6 experience for damage Gon009 09:33:56.698 CMBT | Damage Joseph|-000000001 -\> Gon009|0000001063 5430.18 (h:0.00 s:5430.18) SpaceMissile\_Cruise\_T5\_Mk3 THERMAL|SECONDARY\_WEAPON|EXPLOSION

 

09:36:11.312  CMBT   | Damage           Joseph|-000000001 -\>           Gon009|0000001063 5886.31 (h:5886.31 s:0.00) SpaceMissile\_Cruise\_T5\_Mk3 THERMAL|SECONDARY\_WEAPON|EXPLOSION|MODULE   09:36:11.312  CMBT   | Reward           Joseph Ship\_Race5\_L\_ENGINEER\_Rank15\_5         6 experience       for damage Gon009 09:36:11.312  CMBT   | Damage           Joseph|-000000001 -\>           Gon009|0000001063 5202.55 (h:0.00 s:5202.55) SpaceMissile\_Cruise\_T5\_Mk3 THERMAL|SECONDARY\_WEAPON|EXPLOSION   09:36:11.312  CMBT   | Damage           Gon009|-000000001 -\>           Gon009|0000001063 3000.00 (h:3000.00 s:0.00) Module\_RocketMine\_T5\_Epic TRUE\_DAMAGE|IGNORE\_SHIELD  

 

 

Here are also other logs that may suggest damaging of modules without destroying them:

09:35:17.997 CMBT | Damage Commando|-000000001 -\> Gon009|0000001063 4198.90 (h:4198.90 s:0.00) SpaceMissile\_Cruise\_T5\_Mk3 THERMAL|SECONDARY\_WEAPON|EXPLOSION|MODULE 09:35:17.997 CMBT | Reward Commando Ship\_Race5\_L\_ENGINEER\_Rank15\_5 6 experience for damage Gon009 09:35:17.997 CMBT | Damage Commando|-000000001 -\> Gon009|0000001063 5566.73 (h:0.00 s:5566.73) SpaceMissile\_Cruise\_T5\_Mk3 THERMAL|SECONDARY\_WEAPON|EXPLOSION 09:35:18.044 CMBT | Rocket detonation 7351, owner 'TREN', def 'SpaceMissile\_Standart\_T5\_Mk3', reason 'hit', directHit 'Guardian'

 

09:36:01.043 CMBT | Rocket detonation 9209, owner 'SergiBatya', def 'SpaceMissile\_Cruise\_T5\_Mk3', reason 'hit', directHit 'Gon009' (...) 09:36:01.208 CMBT | Reward SergiBatya Ship\_Race5\_L\_ENGINEER\_Rank15\_5 6 experience for damage Gon009 09:36:01.208 CMBT | Damage SergiBatya|-000000001 -\> Gon009|0000001063 5092.03 (h:0.00 s:5092.03) SpaceMissile\_Cruise\_T5\_Mk3 THERMAL|SECONDARY\_WEAPON|EXPLOSION 09:36:01.208 CMBT | Reward SergiBatya Ship\_Race5\_L\_ENGINEER\_Rank15\_5 7 experience for damage Gon009 09:36:01.208 CMBT | Damage SergiBatya|-000000001 -\> Gon009|0000001063 5886.31 (h:5886.31 s:0.00) SpaceMissile\_Cruise\_T5\_Mk3 THERMAL|SECONDARY\_WEAPON|EXPLOSION|MODULE

 

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2

Not exactly a bug but more an oversight.

This is a side effect of this change 

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Small objects (drones)

  • Explosive damage ratio increased from 0,06 to 0,15

As Destroyer modules are “small objects” and always have been. When you receive explosive damage you will often see two seperate numbers come through. The full projectile (let’s say, 2000 damage) and the damage  your modules received  which prior to the update would have been 4% of 2000 damage. It was still more than possible to lose modules to explosive damage if you took enough of a beating as modules only have a total of 3000 durability on average but with the modifier being shifted so drastically it is exceptionally common to lose modules through shields now to explosive damage.

 

I would hope the developers would respond to this change being unintentional and increase Destroyer module durability by either the same amount as the explosive modifier increased or more.

3

I know how it works when shields are down but I don’t remember it happening when shields are still online. Even with AI destroyers, when I attack them with proximity mortar which has huge splash, the modules get destroyed only when the shield of AI destroyer is down.

Also, the only thing that should leak through shield are weapons that mention it or collision damage, without counting “getting under bubble” thing.

 

Here the shield gets damage and somehow modules also get damaged but hull is intact. It doesn’t make any sense. If it was the case before then it’s still a bug. Shields should not “work” like that.

4

Shield don’t blocked blastwave damage to destroyer’s modules.

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5 hours ago, Skula1975 said:

Shield don’t blocked blastwave damage to destroyer’s modules.

If this is not a bug then I want to ask a question:

When using logic, why shield of destroyers block damage to hull? If modules take damage even when shielded then hull also should take damage, so every explosive should damage both shield and hull of destroyer.

6

12 hours ago, Gon009 said:

When using logic, why shield of destroyers block damage to hull?

For great justice balance!

7

So, over the weekend, I was tooling around on my Relic when an enemy NPC ship crashed into me. This somehow destroyed every module(including the Special Module?) while I had nearly full hull and shield.

 

This cannot be working as intended.

8

Not a bug. Destroyer’s modules is different entity