Lets just settle on one small criticism.
Uhmari still had Eveoiditis at that time.
I know it, because I had that once too. Eve is pretty brainwash, and it’s somehow a cool part of that game. It is the game, which constantly promises a virtual world, but you never find it fun to play it, which is basicly okay to most elder Eve Online players, but sometimes creates a whish-vs-reality burn-out in the game; they have whole forums with rage around this. Also, Eve does trigger Paranoia and Illusions of Grandure;
I always marveled at Eve as being the best MMO-RPG ever created, and the most influential game on modern balancing actually.
I was one of the guys who “smashed” one of his ideas (open universe), as you might remember, but only on a technical level, and not with purpose, especially not, because I would love such a game too. Which is still, where he was a bit dreaming, and might find more closer games to that like Star Citizen or especially Elite Dangerous - however none of these two will really have exactly the same;
I did however not really know what I was getting into, because I actually really just tried to respond to that one part, and suddenly that thread - and others - exploded in rage; Rage which still lingers, and I’d like to lay it rest with this small piece of text-sh.
To say, “however sane he tried to argue it” is polite. The problem is, if you don’t listen, while you talk, nobody will care, even if some of the points are valid. And he did have valid points. But mixed it with points, which were too far fetched or influenced, by Eve.
Many Eve Players crave for an Eve which works likes this game; I did never downvote him, and read all his posts more than once; I guess it was really bad luck.
But it is hard to leave Eve behind, if it comes to the communityplay that game has. Eventually, Eve will develop their Oculus Rift Fighter game maybe, so they can enjoy twitch based combat too somewhen? But it seems CCP aint going away from it’s core MMO style, they can hardly cope with higher playerloads already without creating some kind of Matrix-Game with 1fps. So players seek.
Also, I would not blame anybody after playing one-two years of Eve of being suspicious of spies in Corps. That is really daily gameplay in Eve. And it is pretty serious there, I would not dare to laugh at that, I would find it even fascinating, if people don’t encounter betrayal at least once in the first year on some level.
Uhmari clearly helped me recognize in my own thinking about games, how far my own Eve past has changed my expectations, and actually, I started to enjoy SC as it was because of his position drawing out this contrast; Before DayZ hit me back then, I was deeply into Eve, so it helped me to decide, not to go back anymore.
But in the end, I would say, it is history, and instead of criticizing it, lets remember the story of EVO in it’s good way, especially the part, where it was #1.
EVO btw. is pretty similar to “EvE Online”…
I would actually hope, Uhmari comes back and gives this game another shot. If I was offending to him, or you, Oryngton, because of that past, I hope we can bygones be bygones. Sorry if I take this opportunity, but it lingered around in my head a while. Now it’s out, no further comment.